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Some Seider clips:

"Hey everyone I'm John Tavares, and I play ice hockey for the New York Islanders"...

mods ban @F.Michael pls

I'd take Marner over McD. Selke caliber, kills penalties, carries Mathews.

Really not expecting that at all. I set the bar exceptionally high for Seider personally, and he's jumped over even that so far. Larkin/Mantha/Zadina/Hronek were all decent players in their youth, but Seider is a monster in an entirely separate tier of existence.

2nd round picks for overpaid vets? ALL DAY. EVERY DAY.

My retinas are scarred.

I mean I gotta say that under no circumstances would I condone Leafs' success if the Wings were any good. But since we're living in bizzaro world in general right now and the Wings are barely a hockey team, I'd be OK with the Leafs winning.

That's right laugh. The 5'10 Leaf kid is killing the s*** out of penalties. Those are hard minutes. The 6'3" kid who's good at cross overs and can skate really fast isn't. I'd bet his hockey IQ is mid-low.

Not as a two-way player. But don't let two-way ability mask overall impact on games. Crosby missed much of that season but still scored 72 points in 53 games. He scored 120 points the season before as a 19 year old. Datsyuk was a better two-way player but there was no question who was getting the Hart trophy. That's why I bring up Gretzky and Lemieux. Neither player was good defensively but who really cares? If you have an otherworldly offensive talent, it becomes less important how responsible they are defensively. McDavid is the closest we have to a scoring machine. You don't have to be the best two-way player to be the best player in the league. Otherwise, Patrice Bergeron is the best player in the league.

Wings fans:

Bure was never the best scorer in the league. Goals maybe. Not points. McDavid is a more versatile offensive player. He's primarily a set-up man who scores goals. Bure was predominantly a goal scorer with low assist numbers. Bure was never going to dominate Art Ross races. You're overrating Draisatl's defensive play. He's never received a top 20 Selke vote, let alone top 10. He's better defensively than McDavid, but that doesn't make him a good defensive forward. Zetterberg was better defensively than Gretzky. There's a reason nobody cared about Gretzky or Lemieux's defensive prowess.

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I've been saying it since we drafted him. Not sure I've ever seen a player more fit to be captain. It's almost a shame in my mind to only give him an "A". Exudes confidence, charisma, enthusiasm, personality. Plays like a vet already at 18/19. Physically dominant and fearless, yet super controlled and not dirty at all. Norris caliber superstar written all over him. What does Larkin have? Standard run of the mill boring hockey personality. Works hard, but not overly talented. Happens to be born in Michigan. Had Yzerman not made the mistake of making Larkin captain already the choice would be easy. It's Seider all day. And I think that theory is going to be proven very quickly next season when he's clearly the best player on this team driving everything forward for us.

I'll take free 2nd rounders for just about anything. Don't re-sign Gagner or Ryan and just let him wallow on the 4th line for all I care.

Snark aside, I don't expect fan hate for Seider to be much of a thing next season, or ever. Well, not *Red Wings* fan hate...

That will happen before the end of the coming season.

They're awful. Bring back the black pants. He's not overrated. He's rated correctly as the world's best player. Best offensive force in hockey post Lemieux. World's best player doesn't mean you can win a Stanley Cup on a one-line team. If he wins a Selke trophy this season, then I'll agree he's getting credit for things he shouldn't. People are overreacting. Edmonton was never making a deep run this season. They're too reliant on one line and their powerplay.

cap hit's closer to 5. but yeah. not happening/