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i think I could live with this

Assuming his career legitimately started in the mid to late 80's, I would put him behind Hextall, Roy, Barrasso, Fuhr, and Billy Smith for sure (who was nearing the end of a HOF career, but was still better overall) among goalies who played in that era. Maybe even Vanbiesbrouck. Early to mid 90's, I put him behind Belfour, CuJo, Roy, Potvin, Richter. Mid to late 90's, Brodeur, Osgood, Richter, Roy, Hasek, Khabibulin. At any point in his career, there were other goalies more deserving. Kinda my point. People have been debating Osgood for over a decade. Never heard anyone bring up Vernon. The HOF should be exclusive to no brainers. If you have to debate it, the answer should be "No".

i dont buy that the sens actually want zadina

Stevie is such a ball buster..... 43rd pick plus Zboy, and 6 year extension.

I agree with you. 40 goes up. 13 and 91 will never.

Only elite forwards get 8 years from Yzerman

I hop it’s Zadina and Detroit’s 2nd. Wanna see Ottawa fandom meltdown!!!

Always like Givani’s size and hands yes!

Fingers crossed Zadina is going back the other way. Seems like every few years there's a guy who is adored (and apologized for) endlessly by 50% of the fanbase. Then they get traded and suck on another team and everybody finally realizes they sucked the whole time until the next guy comes along. Brendan Smith, Tomas Jurco, Mantha, and now Zadina all fit the bill. I'll be glad when the debate is finally put to bed.

Sorry, what I meant was who is more deserving then him that wasn't already in the HOF. So essentially Hextall, Vanbiesbrouck, Cujo, Potvin, Richter, Osgood, and Khabibulan in your opinion. My thoughts are this, I've always thought the bar for goalies is ridiculously high when it comes to the HOF. They let a ton of goalies in from the old days, but in modern hockey (lets say last last 30 years) its just Fuhr, Hasek, Roy, Belfour and Brodeur. There is no way only 5 goalies in 3 decades should get in when the bar is nowhere close to as high for skaters or the previous generation. http://hockeygoalies.org/awards/halloffame.html Is he the most deserving goalie of the goalies eligible? That's a fair question, probably not. I definitely think Cujo, Hextall, and Osgood are more deserving, I disagree with Potvin. As for Vanbiesbrouck, Richter, and Khabibulan, I don't know as I think I would have to do a deep dive. I think of all four of those guys in a similar tier.

I think that Boston pick will slide to 25, they're going to finally fall off the cliff next season.

I think it's ironic that the pro lgbt crowd killed the speciality jersey with their own kvetching lol You'd think it'd be common sense that you cant force people to support any particular political or social movement. But no, guys like Provorov simply opting out created an uproar of bad press for the league from lgbt supporters and the press. So now no one gets special jerseys. Which is fair fine by me. Military ones are just as dumb and, should be, just as contoversial IMO. I am sad though that we won't have the ongoing drama of players, and entire teams, opting out. That was fun while it lasted. In my ideal league all players would wear patches associated with their political beliefs so we could love or hate them based on their personal views and then fight about it here.