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2024 Offseason Thread
Akakabuto and 2 others reacted to Jimmybigrigs69 for a post in a topic
Yeah and Lolande said the same things. With Yzerman constantly talking about how we need to play better as a cohesive defensive unit, and stop trying to outscore our problems... Copp certainly isn't in Yzermans doghouse or on the chopping block I would think. Probably the exact opposite, getting butt pats. Copp also talks in that clip about the matchup nightmare his line created for opposing coaches. Other coaches quickly find out the Copp line is coming out against their own top line every shift. They don't want their top guys slogging it out against Copp/Ras/Fish while Larkin's and JTC's prey on their own lower lines, so they start breaking up their lines, moving their playmakers away from their scoring wingers, and now their chemistry and rhythm is all fuqqed up and theyre not breaking out as cleanly or getting the puck up ice quickly anymore, etc etc. I prefer what Copp did this year, rather than get 20 more pts on the PP for the sake of sexy numbers. It's had a cascading impact on the lineup. -
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Norwegian Flood Gate?
Akakabuto and one other reacted to Jimmybigrigs69 for a post in a topic
I thought Swedes and Finns are natural enemies? Like Swedes and Danes. And Swedes and Norwegians. And Swedes and Swedes. -
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2024 Offseason Thread
Rick D and one other reacted to LeftWinger for a post in a topic
Buyout Husso, waive Holl. -
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Norwegian Flood Gate?
Scott R Lucidi reacted to Jimmybigrigs69 for a post in a topic
He learned trading up in the 1st round from Scam. Wonder if Ducks plans have named the verbeek plan yet -
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Offersheeting Broberg
stephen-gregory-yzerman reacted to town123 for a post in a topic
I get it man, but still, you poke the nest and down the road you get poked back when Danielson and others get offersheeted just under the amount to give up any real compensation yet enough to force us to make a decision we don't want to make. As a team that's on the way up with an above average prospect pool, this strategy could really hurt us in the end IMO. -
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2024 Offseason Thread
Rick D reacted to LeftWinger for a post in a topic
So St. Louis has a logjam at D, rumor has it Krug (if he'd waived his NTC) is likely to be the one to go. Would you take him for 50% retained salary? He's 33, with 3 years left, but could make the left side better in the short term. And at $3.25M it wouldn't break the bank. This would require Legassen to GR and Holl waived as well. Making the D look like this: (plus I also bought out Husso) he had 40 points on a (just as) bad St. Louis team. -
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2024 Offseason Thread
Scott R Lucidi reacted to AtlantaHotWings for a post in a topic
In his season ending presser around 3:51 Copp pretty much said he is doing what is asked of him -
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Offersheeting Broberg
HockeytownUW reacted to Scott R Lucidi for a post in a topic
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.yardbarker.com/nhl/articles/amp/oilers_vulnerable_to_squeeze_from_offer_sheet_on_philip_broberg/s1_16454_40608540 -
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2024 Offseason Thread
Rick D reacted to Scott R Lucidi for a post in a topic
Im not anti Copp. He's not hurting the team. Chiarot and Petry are definitely hurting the team. Im anti Chiarot/Petry 100%. -
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2024 Offseason Thread
town123 reacted to Jimmybigrigs69 for a post in a topic
Just stop with the Husso BS. You don't know what the two seperate injuries were. The only thing we have been told to this point is he is expected to be fully recovered and ready to start the season. Any expectation outside of that is baseless speculation at this point. Are we moving the goal posts on Copp now? You suggested he is one of the top candidates for the arbitration buyout. I'm telling you I think that's absurd, based on the critical role he plays in the lineup. We haven't even gotten into the weeds of the financials yet, and how messy/costly that buyout would be, which also makes it unlikely to happen. But I don't think that conversation is even necessary based on the players performance. Do I think Copp is overpaid? Yes and no. Had Copp been developed in our system I don't think he'd have the contract he has right now. However, that's not the scenario of how he came to us, and I think we paid fair market price for him on the open market. If your going to fill critical holes with UFA players you're going to give up AAV and term. And we had to fill those holes. Copp, Chiarot, and JTC were all given very lucrative contracts to come be a stabilizing force on a bad team. Copp probably doesn't love being a shutdown center with no PP time, but that’s the price he paid when we agreed to commit to him long-term. He's expected to be a good soldier and do what's asked of him, like eat the hard minutes others can't/won't. And Chiarot/Copp/Etc have been good soldiers so far. Which is why I don't think we'll see Yzerman lay a finger on any of those contracts... IMHO part of what SY is doing building a culture where guys who commit to the hard stuff, committ to systems, and soldier through, get put up on a pedestal. Veleno... you want 5 million dollars? Go play like Copp. You want top 6 icetime? Play like Copp. And just to be clear, I don't think Copp or Chiarot will be on a wings cup winning team. Maybe they will be on their next contracts, but not these. The idea of building through the draft is that we wont need to handout lucrative contracts to fill critical roles anymore. But that phase will come when these contracts are completed. Not bought out or moved. -
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2024 Offseason Thread
Al The Octopus reacted to Scott R Lucidi for a post in a topic
.40 CF% BigRigs - This guy is a defensive mastermind. -
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2024 Offseason Thread
Al The Octopus reacted to Jimmybigrigs69 for a post in a topic
I don't believe PuckPedia is correct here. That might be for his full contract, but buyouts still get shared by the teams retaining salary. I believe a Petry buyout would cost us $1.5 over this season, and the same caphit next season. Probably smarter just to keep him, or waive him. I'm not certain Tarasenko will play LW. He played LW for Florida a little bit, but I believe that's literally the only instance he's been on the left side in his entire career. I also don't think Motte will play much center. He's been used mostly at LW as of late. And Danielson shoots right. At defense, Gustafsson has played a lot on the right side over his career, so I think he'll go there b4 Edvinsson. I also expect Lagesson will get waived as soon as the season starts. Thinking this: Debrincat - Larkin - Kane Rasmussen - Compher - Raymond Berggren - Copp - Tarasenko Motte - Veleno - Fischer Keep Dcat and Kane together. Hopefully Kane gets cat scoring again. As much as I love the Ras-Copp-Fish line, I think we need to break it up and spread that defensive acumen around the lineup. We also have too many RWs now to justify Fish playing anything more than 4th line minutes. And I'd like to see Ras get moved up to a scoring line to get him some offensive confidence. Copp and Tarasenko are also good responsible vets for bergy to play with. Chiarot - Seider Edvinsson - Petry Maata - Gustafsson Johansson - Holl Chiarot and Seider played well together last time. I'm not convinced Eddog is a lock for opening night, but fuq it, I don't know what forward rookie would take his place on the roster... im also pretty convinced Newsy will keep giving Petry undeserved top4 minutes. And then yeah run 3 goalies. Seemed to me SY was happy with the 3 goalie thing.