College Football

[timothy1997 0]

As it should be. This could be the biggest regular season game since I don't know when. Maybe ever.

West Va @ Louisville is a pretty big regular season game this year. It appears that the winner of that game will play the winner of the Michigan-Ohio State game for the championship.

[eva unit zero 271]

West Va @ Louisville is a pretty big regular season game this year. It appears that the winner of that game will play the winner of the Michigan-Ohio State game for the championship.

And that is sad.

Neither WV nor Louisville is in the same league as UM and OSU...those two are easily the top two teams.

That said....if a one-loss team is ranked 3rd going into UM/OSU....there is a very real chance you could see a rematch in the title game.

[Hockeytown Red Wings 245]

Come on...even when the two teams arent undefeated and going for National Championships there isnt a bigger game. This is the biggest game in the rivalry since 1973 when both teams were 1 and 2 and undefeated, a game that ended in a tie. But I still think this game is bigger....and I can't wait. Go Bucks!

[Lou_Siffer 1]

That said....if a one-loss team is ranked 3rd going into UM/OSU....there is a very real chance you could see a rematch in the title game.

I think thats doubtful. Reason being is the pollsters carry a "what have you done for me lately" attitude. Meaning if 2 teams have 1 loss the one that lost last is usually lower ranked. Loser of UM/OSU will just automatically be dropped to #3. It shouldnt be like that but thats just the way its always been. There would have to be a big difference in the BCS pts going into the game to overcome that flip flop.

[hockeyfanatic 0]

Come on...even when the two teams arent undefeated and going for National Championships there isnt a bigger game. This is the biggest game in the rivalry since 1973 when both teams were 1 and 2 and undefeated, a game that ended in a tie. But I still think this game is bigger....and I can't wait. Go Bucks!

I thought Michigan was ranked #4 and Ohio State #1, though both were undefeated. I was pretty sure they have never met when both were undefeated AND ranked #1 and #2.

[timothy1997 0]

And that is sad.

Neither WV nor Louisville is in the same league as UM and OSU...those two are easily the top two teams.

That said....if a one-loss team is ranked 3rd going into UM/OSU....there is a very real chance you could see a rematch in the title game.

Very unlikely. If you lose late in the season, it costs you more than losing a game early. If there is a rematch game in the National Championship game... it could be Michigan vs Notre Dame. ND still has the one loss to Michigan and if the irish go to USC and beat the trojans....hard to pass up on them dispite having one loss compared to a louisville or rutgers team, even if they are undefeated.

Edited October 29, 2006 by timothy1997

[mannysBETTER3434 1]

I thought Michigan was ranked #4 and Ohio State #1, though both were undefeated. I was pretty sure they have never met when both were undefeated AND ranked #1 and #2.

Your right.

[RockyMountainWingGal 108]

And that is sad.

Neither WV nor Louisville is in the same league as UM and OSU...those two are easily the top two teams.

That said....if a one-loss team is ranked 3rd going into UM/OSU....there is a very real chance you could see a rematch in the title game.

I totally agree with this. If the game is goes down to the wire - or OT - I don't see how a one loss UM or OSU team can be any lower than other one loss teams - regardless of the time of year. I don't think it would happen purely for TV ratings reasons - the BCS does not want two teams playing each other twice in a row. Let alone two teams from the Midwest. (OMG that would be like that horrible World Series match-up they just had between 2 midwest teams ).

[timothy1997 0]

I totally agree with this. If the game is goes down to the wire - or OT - I don't see how a one loss UM or OSU team can be any lower than other one loss teams - regardless of the time of year. I don't think it would happen purely for TV ratings reasons - the BCS does not want two teams playing each other twice in a row. Let alone two teams from the Midwest. (OMG that would be like that horrible World Series match-up they just had between 2 midwest teams ).

Losses at the end of the season weight heavier to the BCS than losses in Sept. A Michigan loss to Ohio State could change the BCS from this.

#1 Ohio State (undefeated)

#2 Michigan (undefeated)

#3 Florida (1 loss)

#4 Texas (1 loss)

#5 USC (1 loss)

#6 West Va. (1 loss)

to this

#1 Ohio State

#2 Texas

#3 Florida

#4 USC

#5 West Va.

#6 Michigan

[redwings1914 18]

19 days

I totally agree with this. If the game is goes down to the wire - or OT - I don't see how a one loss UM or OSU team can be any lower than other one loss teams - regardless of the time of year. I don't think it would happen purely for TV ratings reasons - the BCS does not want two teams playing each other twice in a row. Let alone two teams from the Midwest. (OMG that would be like that horrible World Series match-up they just had between 2 midwest teams ).

I dont think that geography would have any implications on this at all, after all, it would be a matchup of 2 of the most storied programs ever....imagine if Miami/Florida/Florida State was a NC game. If the computers say that Mich/them are the two best teams in the country even after they played each other, then it will be a Mich/them BCSCG.

[mannysBETTER3434 1]

to this

#1 Ohio State

#2 Texas

#3 Florida

#4 USC

#5 West Va.

#6 Michigan

Thats not close to accuarte because your only assuming U-M/WV lose. USC could end the year with maybe 2 more loses. Florida has to play in the SEC playoff games, and has a good chance to lose another. Texas will have to play in the Big 12 playoff as well

[timothy1997 0]

Thats not close to accuarte because your only assuming U-M/WV lose. USC could end the year with maybe 2 more loses. Florida has to play in the SEC playoff games, and has a good chance to lose another. Texas will have to play in the Big 12 playoff as well

The topic was on the chances of the loser of the Michigan-Ohio State game would make to get to the National Championship game. Florida and Texas wins out, how can they be passed up for a 1 loss michigan or ohio state team. Texas would have a real good case having lost to Ohio State previously this season.

[gowingsgo 3]

You'll see how legit WVU is this week.

[mannysBETTER3434 1]

Gotta love Cato June on Jim Rome- 'Michigan will win by 22 in Columbus'

[Heroes of Hockeytown 694]

Hey, why not? So long as Mario Manningham is loose, I firmly believe anything can happen.

[Hockeytown Red Wings 245]

Gotta love Cato June on Jim Rome- 'Michigan will win by 22 in Columbus'

Michigan wont even score 22...let alone win by that much. I'm sure Cato June was being completely unbiased...haha.

[mannysBETTER3434 1]

Michigan wont even score 22...let alone win by that much. I'm sure Cato June was being completely unbiased...haha.

No not at all . but if it made Jim Rome mad I'm down with it.

Sounds like Manningham will play Saturday

[Heroes of Hockeytown 694]

Yeah, just saw this so that's good news.

Ecker and Massey still hurt. Butler's done a good job, but he's made some ugly drops. Let's all hope Michigan can get their top TEs and WR back soon. *fingers crossed*

[mannysBETTER3434 1]

Yeah, just saw this so that's good news.

Ecker and Massey still hurt. Butler's done a good job, but he's made some ugly drops. Let's all hope Michigan can get their top TEs and WR back soon. *fingers crossed*

Butler is going to be a very good TE for U-M. I think he was still a year away from being ready for significant action, which is why he has made some bad mistakes. Overall though I think he's doing a good job for us. To bad for Ecker I thought he was going to have a huge year for us this year. I just hope Breaston has a breakout game sometime.

[mannysBETTER3434 1]

This is a great post I found on ESPN from a U-M fan....

Let me tell you about a team from a long time ago:

End of Year Stats:

Ranked #70 in Total Offense #93 Pass #31 Rush

Ranked #23 in Total Defense #95 Pass #3 Rush

Beat a 9 loss NW team 27-16

Beat Wisconsin 19-14

Beat PSU 13-7

Beat a 6 loss Purdue team 10-6, on a prayer

Beat an awful ILL. team 23-16 in OT on Nov. 16th

Defeated a somewhat down UM team 14-9

Great team, Huh?? I remember telling all my OSU buddies how UM would smoke OSU because you couldn't score. Oops.

That OSU team, 2002 National Champs.

Shut up about our offense. The difference between the '02 Bucks and the '06 Wolves, is we CAN score when we need to. We are on about page 3 of the playbook. We'll be there. Will you. Scores don't mean squat. We rank ahead of that '02 team statistically on D, does that make our D better than OSU's '02 squad?

So stop bashing our offense, and if you are pinning all of your hopes on that, it's going to be a long day for you.

Throw out all your numbers and stats, #1 v. #2, The Game, THE Biggest Rivalry in college football.

See you on the 18th, and I hope it lives up to the hype.

Am I saying U-M going to win? No, but it WILL NOT be a blowout. It will be like every other U-M/OSU game: hard fought and close.

Edited November 1, 2006 by mannysBETTER3434

[betterREDthandead 58]

Am I saying U-M going to win? No, but it WILL NOT be a blowout. It will be like every other U-M/OSU game: hard fought and close.

True That. You can throw out the records when Michigan and Ohio State meet. There's more than enough upsets in this rivalry's history to prove that. Of course, this year it'll be hard to ignore the records, but once they kick it off, it's just maize and blue vs. scarlet and gray, like always. The implications are for before and after the game, not during.

[BlakChamber 8]

Press conferance at MSU, 1:30 today.

Bye bye John L

[mannysBETTER3434 1]

Press conferance at MSU, 1:30 today.

Bye bye John L

I just read that some place else too. So who are your candiates? Here is stuff I've read on MSU boards

Steve Mariucci- I think he's worse then John L.

Larry Coker?? If he gets fired, but again he hasn't proven anything.

Brian Kelly- Built CMU to respectability, and turned Grand Valley State into the "USC" of thier leauge.

Ron English- U-M defensive coordinator. Is known for intensity, and recruiting. Problem is here he turned down the Bears already this year, why would he accept MSU then?

Tyrome Willinham- Washinton/ND coach...graduated from MSU. I think leaving Washington so early though would give him a bad name.

Mike Price- Had his off the field problems, but can coach. Has also laid low the last few years.

Here is the interesting one- JIM HARABAUGH- Former U-M QB. Has hardly lost at the I-AA level (like Tressel once did) His whole staff is former NFL coaches and players. His brother in law is Tom Cren- who many think will replace Izzo when the day comes. When I first read this I thought "yeah right", but if you search it you will find plenty of sites saying this. I don't see how a former U-M QB could take this job though....

Another guy I've read about is the DC at Georgia Tech. Dont remember his name, but he has some kind of MSU ties I believe.

Edited November 1, 2006 by mannysBETTER3434

[BlakChamber 8]

I hope to god we don't get Mooch. Although if Izzo wants his buddy here, I'm sure it's a done deal.

Coker, Butch Davis, and English won't be coming here, IMO.

I like Kelly, Willingham, or Pat Shurmur who is currently the QB coach for the Eagles. He's a MSU alum and coached under Saban.

I just heard someone bring up Jim Harbaugh today. Even though he's a weasel, I wouldn't be too opposed to it.

[mannysBETTER3434 1]

I hope to god we don't get Mooch. Although if Izzo wants his buddy here, I'm sure it's a done deal.

Coker, Butch Davis, and English won't be coming here, IMO.

I like Kelly, Willingham, or Pat Shurmur who is currently the QB coach for the Eagles. He's a MSU alum and coached under Saban.

I just heard someone bring up Jim Harbaugh today. Even though he's a weasel, I wouldn't be too opposed to it.

What Haurbaugh has done though is impressive. Took a horrible San Diego team, brought them to 7-5, to 11-1, and now they are 8-0 so this year, and ranked No. 1 in the country. Also very young for a coach. One other name I heard to was a coordinator at UCLA...again forgot his name, but has MSU ties.