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#1 ben_usmc

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Posted 10 February 2007 - 11:03 PM

He has really been impressive lately, making nice checks, forchecking just playing great. I also hope we clear out some of our players, Sammy, Williams, Lilja, and I wouldn't mind losing Lang, Cleary, if we can get something half way decent in return. But the prospects the few games they played show some great teamwork and I would be willing to put a little bit more on there shoulders and picking up at least 1 or 2 big players.
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Posted 10 February 2007 - 11:17 PM

Why would you ever want to lose Cleary and keep Maltby? Cleary has 20 goals this season and can do everything Maltby does. Oh, and he makes less.
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Posted 10 February 2007 - 11:54 PM

Your crazy , I love malts , but lose Langer and Danny Boy , no thanks

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Posted 11 February 2007 - 12:01 AM

Malts can stay for 600 grand

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Posted 11 February 2007 - 12:06 AM

QUOTE(wingsfan40 @ February 11, 2007 - 12:01AM) View Post

Malts can stay for 600 grand

Why even use a roster spot on him? He doesn't bring much to the team anymore that someone else couldn't.
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Posted 11 February 2007 - 12:18 AM

Maltby is the most expendable forward on the team.

Top three in various categories of value:

Youth:
Hudler, Filppula, Kopecky

Defense:
Zetterberg, Draper, Franzen

Scoring:
Zetterberg, Cleary, Holmstrom

Passing:
Datsyuk, Lang, Zetterberg

Physical play:
Franzen, Kopecky, Holmstrom

The only other forward who doesn't make that list is Samuelsson, who can score pretty well and is not a liability defensively. For a team that needs all the scoring it can get and has stellar defense, Sammy is more valuable than Malts.

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Posted 11 February 2007 - 12:55 AM

QUOTE(ben_usmc @ February 10, 2007 - 11:03PM) View Post

He has really been impressive lately, making nice checks, forchecking just playing great. I also hope we clear out some of our players, Sammy, Williams, Lilja, and I wouldn't mind losing Lang, Cleary, if we can get something half way decent in return. But the prospects the few games they played show some great teamwork and I would be willing to put a little bit more on there shoulders and picking up at least 1 or 2 big players.


Yea, I agree that the young guys i.e. Hudler, Flip have played well of recent. However, Cleary is way more valuable, cheaper, and useful than Malts. Don't get me wrong I love Maltby, but it seems that a whole lot of guys, not just Cleary, can do what he is doing for less. Maltby is a player worth keeping, but not for over a mil.


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Posted 11 February 2007 - 01:01 AM

QUOTE(eva unit zero @ February 11, 2007 - 12:18AM) View Post

Maltby is the most expendable forward on the team.

Top three in various categories of value:

Youth:
Hudler, Filppula, Kopecky

Defense:
Zetterberg, Draper, Franzen

Scoring:
Zetterberg, Cleary, Holmstrom

Passing:
Datsyuk, Lang, Zetterberg

Physical play:
Franzen, Kopecky, Holmstrom

The only other forward who doesn't make that list is Samuelsson, who can score pretty well and is not a liability defensively. For a team that needs all the scoring it can get and has stellar defense, Sammy is more valuable than Malts.


I also don't see Williams on there.

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Posted 11 February 2007 - 01:04 AM

QUOTE(YzermanForever @ February 11, 2007 - 01:01AM) View Post

I also don't see Williams on there.


Sorry, I was blocking out the memory of him still being on a scoring line in Detroit....

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Posted 11 February 2007 - 07:03 AM

Isn't Maltby UFA after the season?

I think may start searching a new job, his future in Detroit seems to be foggy.

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Posted 11 February 2007 - 08:00 AM

QUOTE(Mila @ February 11, 2007 - 08:03AM) View Post

Isn't Maltby UFA after the season?

I think may start searching a new job, his future in Detroit seems to be foggy.


His future he is set in stone if he is willing to play for $750,000/ year.
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Posted 11 February 2007 - 09:00 AM

I think he'll stay for cheap...1 year...maybe even 500k...I still believe he's got something left in his tank, i'm just not convinced Babcock knows how to get at it...it just seemed like he was such a different player before and after the lockout and I really don't think the new rules or age has anything to do with it. I'm not saying Babcock sucks necessarily, but I don't think he really took the time to figure out Maltby. But you know, this is messageboardland so speculation ain't worth much...
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Posted 11 February 2007 - 09:16 AM

Why on earth would you want to get rid of Cleary, hes one of the best players we have this season. Don`t fix what aint broken. dry.gif
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Posted 11 February 2007 - 09:20 AM

I think he would be willing to stay and play for less.

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Posted 11 February 2007 - 10:03 AM

Doesnt matter what he'd re-sign for, its all about the fact he's a waste of a roster spot.

I do admit he seems to be throwing more hits lately from what ive seen, but still, you can easily find other players out there who are much more consistent hitters and more stand-upish than Maltby for the 4th line. His role as a penalty killer is nowhere near as important anymore.
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Posted 11 February 2007 - 12:09 PM

ummm yeah i think lilja is the only one i agree with getting rid of. definitely not cleary...or maltby or lang. williams is definitely in a slump right now but maybe he'll get out of it. i just don't get why clearys name was even mentioned?

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Posted 11 February 2007 - 01:05 PM

QUOTE(Lou_Siffer @ February 11, 2007 - 07:03AM) View Post

Doesnt matter what he'd re-sign for, its all about the fact he's a waste of a roster spot.

I do admit he seems to be throwing more hits lately from what ive seen, but still, you can easily find other players out there who are much more consistent hitters and more stand-upish than Maltby for the 4th line. His role as a penalty killer is nowhere near as important anymore.

Exactly. It doesn't matter how cheap he comes back for. It's taking ice time away from younger guys who could fill the same role for just as cheap, and hopefully develop into even better players.


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Posted 11 February 2007 - 01:33 PM

QUOTE(eva unit zero @ February 11, 2007 - 12:18AM) View Post

Maltby is the most expendable forward on the team.

Top three in various categories of value:

Youth:
Hudler, Filppula, Kopecky

Defense:
Zetterberg, Draper, Franzen

Scoring:
Zetterberg, Cleary, Holmstrom

Passing:
Datsyuk, Lang, Zetterberg

Physical play:
Franzen, Kopecky, Holmstrom


The only other forward who doesn't make that list is Samuelsson, who can score pretty well and is not a liability defensively. For a team that needs all the scoring it can get and has stellar defense, Sammy is more valuable than Malts.



C'mon now........... Let's be serious. There is no way in hell that Maltby doesn't make the list for defense (still a top PK'er) and physical play.... GIMMIE A BREAK. Day in day out Malt's throws his body around more than anyone on the team. Franzen is given to much credit and Homer gets checked ten times as much as he throws a body check.

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Posted 11 February 2007 - 01:43 PM

Maltby was much more effective on a line with someone willing to drop the gloves. Back in the day, Maltby would start the s*** and DMac would come in and finish it. I do agree though he has picked up his game as of late, but his role as an agitator is limited without a heavyweight.

Allso, with the addition of Cleary and Franzen who can bang and crash, do the energy thing, and put the puck in the net more often, I think his worth on this team has diminished.

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Posted 11 February 2007 - 01:54 PM

QUOTE(ben_usmc @ February 10, 2007 - 09:03PM) View Post

He has really been impressive lately, making nice checks, forchecking just playing great. I also hope we clear out some of our players, Sammy, Williams, Lilja, and I wouldn't mind losing Lang, Cleary, if we can get something half way decent in return. But the prospects the few games they played show some great teamwork and I would be willing to put a little bit more on there shoulders and picking up at least 1 or 2 big players.


Cleary, with 35+ points and 20+ goals for less than $700,000 per year, is quite possibly the best deal you could find ANYWHERE (outside of rookies, with the rookie salary cap). Why, persay, would you EVER want to get rid of him?

Maltby is a dinosaur. He used to be a great checker, agitator and scorer. Now he does none of the above. He can only grind. Whilst Draper has also lost the check, he's still incredibly fast, and one of the premier penalty killers and face-off men in the league. In any case, long story short-- Maltby will not be here next year.

Cleary will be here next year.

QUOTE(MotorCityMiracle @ February 11, 2007 - 11:33AM) View Post

C'mon now........... Let's be serious. There is no way in hell that Maltby doesn't make the list for defense (still a top PK'er) and physical play.... GIMMIE A BREAK. Day in day out Malt's throws his body around more than anyone on the team. Franzen is given to much credit and Homer gets checked ten times as much as he throws a body check.


Ok, Maltby leads the team with hits with 82--and none of them have been significant.

Anyway, we've got the money to pick up a guy like Laraque who can hit, fight and score.





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