skyphoenix 153 Report post Posted October 24, 2010 That was shoulder to head. He would have been really messed up if it was an elbow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragonballgtz 273 Report post Posted October 24, 2010 love it when people huff and puff about officiating You liked it when Franzen did it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hooon 1,089 Report post Posted October 24, 2010 You liked it when Franzen did it? Um. Yes because he was actually caught with NOTHING but elbow. Whats your point exactly? Other than to illicit responses from other posters... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted October 24, 2010 1 soultrain reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tommy_Like_Wingy 25 Report post Posted October 24, 2010 50-50 calls are going to go in our favor? ....i guess he wants it to be more like 90-10 going their favor or something? I'm pretty sure in context he was saying that calls that are 50-50 or could go either way always get called in our favor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MulesWillFly93 199 Report post Posted October 24, 2010 I don't want to hear a dang thing out of Selanne about biased officiating after they allowed the Ducks' 3rd goal. You can say the reffing sucks, and I would agree, but don't sit there and pretend like there was any way you would've been headed toward OT before Datsyuk's last goal without some serious help from the refs. Get. Over. It. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Norwegian Red Wing 107 Report post Posted October 24, 2010 - Get out of my way, chump! 1 Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheDetroitRedWings 286 Report post Posted October 24, 2010 Unbelievable that ANYONE would complain about us getting favorable officiating. I've never seen another team get screwed over by the refs as often as the Wings do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsyerberger 279 Report post Posted October 24, 2010 Wonder if Selanne and/or Carlyle (more Selanne) will get a fine for those comments. Justified or no, the NHL typically does not like players saying that much about the officiating/product. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted October 24, 2010 This is why the letter on his jersey says "A" and not "C". Fine him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russianswede919293 95 Report post Posted October 24, 2010 Well when the last time you were in this building a few weeks ago you ran around trying to start fights because you were losing the refs are going to call you tight to keep that out of this game. Yes there were some bad calls on Anaheim in Detroit's favor, but they made that bed with their actions 3 weeks ago, now they need to sleep in it. 3 55fan, Z Winged Dangler and commadore183 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HOCKEY MATTERS 167 Report post Posted October 24, 2010 Well when the last time you were in this building a few weeks ago you ran around trying to start fights because you were losing the refs are going to call you tight to keep that out of this game. Yes there were some bad calls on Anaheim in Detroit's favor, but they made that bed with their actions 3 weeks ago, now they need to sleep in it. Funny how teams forget that. Kind of like what DMac said a while back..."hockey players have long memories..." Guess refs are the same way. Whodathunk? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted October 24, 2010 Selanne also wasn't thrilled with the officiating crew led by referees Frederick L'Ecuyer and Dan O'Halloran. "It is a joke," he said. "As long as I have played here, it's always happened. You almost know. They get at least three power plays every first period. ... Like 50-50 calls are going to go in their favor. We knew. It's not a secret for anybody. Plus, there's a young referee who's pumped to do the games here. The calls are going to go in their favor." As it was talked about in the GDT, regarding Kronwall: "That guy is dangerous out there," Selanne said. "One of these days somebody's going to get him, for sure. I know that. It's just a matter of time when. For sure his elbow hit in my face. I didn't see the replay but I know how it felt." Selanne - you was quit when Pronger was elbowing Homer, Cleary, Franzen 3-4 years ago... Selanne = ***** Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puckloo39 5,686 Report post Posted October 24, 2010 Selanne is without a doubt a world-class player, but he needs to shut up. I understand senior players supporting their (whining) coaches, but really now... this was marginal at best, no one was hurt except your ego. And by the way, poor officiating against the Wings, some of it in this joke of a building, contributed to your name being on the Stanley Cup, so... shhh! 2 Z Winged Dangler and Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mindfly Report post Posted October 24, 2010 It's funny though, i think i never heard babcock whine about officiating.. only thing he says is like "i don't get to referee the game etc" while almost all other coaches do it on a daily basis.. STAY CLASSY 1 55fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted October 24, 2010 (edited) I'll give Selanne the benefit of the doubt as I don't think he's this type of person typically. That being said, I can certainly understand his frustrations with the officiating, I just think he worded his frustrations really bad. As much as I dislike Corey Perry and love seeing him in the penalty box, that penalty call him early was pretty pitiful, and it just goes to show how terribly inconsistent the officiating and/or NHL rules are in terms of penalty calls, for all teams, Wings and Ducks included. Hasn't changed much over the years unfortunately. Edited October 24, 2010 by SouthernWingsFan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b.shanafan14 733 Report post Posted October 24, 2010 (edited) http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2010/10/ducks_teemu_selanne_says_red_w.html My favorite parts of the article are just how wrong he is about everything he says "For sure his elbow hit in my face. I didn't see the replay, but I know how it felt." "That's not the reason why we lost but still, if you get one power play and they get five (they got three), it's a big difference." And of course, the threat cements the fact that he is completely oblivious to the team he plays on. "That guy is dangerous out there. One of these days somebody's going to get him, for sure,'' Selanne said. "I know that. It's just a matter of time when." Sad thing is, I have no doubt we'll see vintage Ducks head hunting in the remaining two games. I understand emotion over a hit or over a teammate being hit, but at what point do these threats - like the ones often said about Ovechkin - warrant a legitimate response by the league? On one hand, I hate the fact that players can't speak their minds in many instances, so I appreciate candor, but at the same time, isn't that the same as saying "Myself and others have intent to injure" only needing an act to solidify it? Has the Bertuzzi-Moore incident taught us so little? So if Kronwall gets hurt in a suspicious act during a Wings-Ducks game, is intent already applied? In other words, my feeling is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtYjdEwa8GA#t=4m25s EDIT: Time note didn't work so if you don't like the Godfather, specifically one of the greatest scenes in cinema, skip to 4:25 Edited October 24, 2010 by b.shanafan14 2 ilmickeyli and AARedWingFan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoshuaW92 9 Report post Posted October 24, 2010 The biggest thing that everyone needs to realize is that Selanne is frustrated that his team is the most penalized team in the league, even though it's their own fault for acting like idiots. He is trying to vent because you can definately tell he is not happy with the way his team is playing the game. About the hit, I can see why he thinks he got elbowed. Kronwall followed through with his elbow even though initial point of contact was using his shoulder. Kronwall needs to change the style of how he hits because in the future he is going to get major suspensions and fines hitting like that. He needs to learn to stay on his feet (before,during, and after hit) and to keep his arms down so it doesn't even look questionable of being an elbow. 2 haroldsnepsts and commadore183 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted October 24, 2010 "That guy is dangerous out there," Selanne said. "One of these days somebody's going to get him, for sure. I know that. It's just a matter of time when. For sure his elbow hit in my face. I didn't see the replay but I know how it felt." Well, Mr. Selanne, it's amazing you felt his elbow hit you when it was clearly a shoulder hit. Maybe you should go watch the replay before you shoot off at the mouth. I don't know why powerplays going to your opposing team is so shocking to a Duck. Your team is full of discipline-less goons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted October 24, 2010 ******* ***** diver like Selanne complaining about refs giving out unfair calls. How about you stop diving all the time retard? It's unfair to the other team. 1 soultrain reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted October 24, 2010 ******* ***** diver like Selanne complaining about refs giving out unfair calls. How about you stop diving all the time retard? It's unfair to the other team. This. 1 soultrain reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AARedWingFan 13 Report post Posted October 24, 2010 http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2010/10/ducks_teemu_selanne_says_red_w.html My favorite parts of the article are just how wrong he is about everything he says And of course, the threat cements the fact that he is completely oblivious to the team he plays on. Sad thing is, I have no doubt we'll see vintage Ducks head hunting in the remaining two games. I understand emotion over a hit or over a teammate being hit, but at what point do these threats - like the ones often said about Ovechkin - warrant a legitimate response by the league? On one hand, I hate the fact that players can't speak their minds in many instances, so I appreciate candor, but at the same time, isn't that the same as saying "Myself and others have intent to injure" only needing an act to solidify it? Has the Bertuzzi-Moore incident taught us so little? So if Kronwall gets hurt in a suspicious act during a Wings-Ducks game, is intent already applied? In other words, my feeling is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtYjdEwa8GA#t=4m25s EDIT: Time note didn't work so if you don't like the Godfather, specifically one of the greatest scenes in cinema, skip to 4:25 You get a +1 for bringing in The Godfather to relate to the situation that may occur. Win for you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barrie 900 Report post Posted October 24, 2010 I'll give Selanne the benefit of the doubt as I don't think he's this type of person typically. That being said, I can certainly understand his frustrations with the officiating, I just think he worded his frustrations really bad. As much as I dislike Corey Perry and love seeing him in the penalty box, that penalty call him early was pretty pitiful, and it just goes to show how terribly inconsistent the officiating and/or NHL rules are in terms of penalty calls, for all teams, Wings and Ducks included. Hasn't changed much over the years unfortunately. I didn't see the game, for some reason I couldn't find it on the NHL Center Ice channels, but I'm wondering if that call on Perry was to send him a message that the refs are watching him, and weren't going to take any cheap shots or head hunting from him. If that was the case, I thank them. As for Selanne's comments, I find it funny coming from a team who has some of the worst poor sports, goons, head hunters, and cheap shot artists in the game. I have no time for any Anaheim complaining. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted October 24, 2010 I think the problem here is Selanne has got to be the cleanest guy on that team. And I am sure that wasn't nearly as frustrating when they were one of the top teams in the league. Now he has to watch the PK march out on the ice over and over again, while watching the L's pile up as well. He came back to win, they have a lot of talent when they are playing the game, when they are gooning it up or whining, they are not very good. Selanne's frustrations are no doubt adding up, I think he just finally found an outlet and let it go way more than he needed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nate94gt 134 Report post Posted October 24, 2010 I didn't see the game, for some reason I couldn't find it on the NHL Center Ice channels, but I'm wondering if that call on Perry was to send him a message that the refs are watching him, and weren't going to take any cheap shots or head hunting from him. If that was the case, I thank them. I would imagine it to be something like that. The game started off chippy and after that episode, it quieted right down. Pretty sure it was more of a message sender than anything. Sad to see it happen that way, if indeed that was the reasoning, i'd prefer legit calls all the way around, but detroit also gets there share of bad calls so take advantage of it while you can. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites