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Do Maple Leaf fans deserve better?

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Guys like McEichel are obviously can't miss prospects but in the later rounds or maybe even at around 15 if it's washup I'd go with size and local boys to make it easier for fans to identify themselves with the team. I mean look at Toronto they didn't draft a GTO player till the later rounds.

Scouting be damned. It's all about measurements and POB.

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To be fair both McDavid and Eichel are at around 190lbs. But yeah, to never draft anyone under that mark is a little ridiculous...

Yeah, Actually Eichel's listed at 194. My bad. McDavid's 187. I thought I remembered them being listed at less a while ago. And, yeah, my point was that a size cutoff of 200lbs would exclude a lot of skill players especially since they would be young and could put pounds on later.

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Yeah, Actually Eichel's listed at 194. My bad. McDavid's 187. I thought I remembered them being listed at less a while ago. And, yeah, my point was that a size cutoff of 200lbs would exclude a lot of skill players especially since they would be young and could put pounds on later.

Shows their commitment both are already talked about as phenoms and they still keep working hard and adding muscle. When I've made my point a very important one got lost (intentionally?): given where this team is and what the needs are. I believe a power-forward is needed and while it's true players will put on mass a guy who is already 190 lbs + will still do the same and maybe turn into another Lucic, Bertuzzi..I'm sure teams like the Blues or LA would have other priorities because their teams are already at an average 200 lbs + level.

I also don't know why the concept of drafting a Michigan boy is questioned identification plays a huge part in fandom, so if the kid has the talent and may be only a bit worse than someone else drafting him makes sense in a lot of ways.

Anyway back to topic Siegel has mentioned the Wings here ( http://www.tsn.ca/shanahan-should-emulate-wings-in-rebuild-1.208987). I know, the new TSN layout sucks but I still haven't found a better site for hockey-news which is very unfortunate.

The Leafs drafted Luke Schenn with the fifth pick in the 2008 draft – trading up to do so – and had him in the NHL that fall as an 18-year-old. The Wings, by contrast, picked Gustav Nyquist with the 121st pick that year, making him a full-time player only this season.

"You see [Tomas] Tatar, [Gustav] Nyquist, they spend lot of time in the minors, they went in the minors, they paid their dues and they wait and they wait and now boom they're ready to come in," said Stephane Robidas, who contended with Detroit for years in the Western Conference. "It's not always their first rounders [either]."

Detroit believes in over-cooking its prospects. They would rather wait too long than move too quickly. Toronto hasn't shown near that kind of patience amid a revolving door of managers and strategies.

Back when the Leafs drafted Schenn he sadly is the perfect example of ill-advise and rushing him. Kid came in with great size and was a bruising well playing force then their management wanted him to put on too much muscle too quickly so he lost a stepped and never has been able to play and hit like he used to, which is sad.

But this article doesn't mention something very important overcooking can also lead to players wanting out, thanks god Tatar and Nyquist had the patience but not everyone will.

Edited by frankgrimes

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Shows their commitment both are already talked about as phenoms and they still keep working hard and adding muscle. When I've made my point a very important one got lost (intentionally?): given where this team is and what the needs are. I believe a power-forward is needed and while it's true players will put on mass a guy who is already 190 lbs + will still do the same and maybe turn into another Lucic, Bertuzzi..I'm sure teams like the Blues or LA would have other priorities because their teams are already at an average 200 lbs + level.

I also don't know why the concept of drafting a Michigan boy is questioned identification plays a huge part in fandom, so if the kid has the talent and may be only a bit worse than someone else drafting him makes sense in a lot of ways.

Anyway back to topic Siegel has mentioned the Wings here ( http://www.tsn.ca/shanahan-should-emulate-wings-in-rebuild-1.208987). I know, the new TSN layout sucks but I still haven't found a better site for hockey-news which is very unfortunate.

Back when the Leafs drafted Schenn he sadly is the perfect example of ill-advise and rushing him. Kid came in with great size and was a bruising well playing force then their management wanted him to put on too much muscle too quickly so he lost a stepped and never has been able to play and hit like he used to, which is sad.

But this article doesn't mention something very important overcooking can also lead to players wanting out, thanks god Tatar and Nyquist had the patience but not everyone will.

lol Who are all these guys that "wanted out" that you deem so valuable?

Edited by Son of a Wing

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I'm not sure any Toronto Maple Leaf should be speaking in the diminutive about any other group of people. Being a Maple Leaf is about as low as it gets. You're about one rung up the ladder from the guy who mops the floors at a sperm bank.

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I'm not sure any Toronto Maple Leafs should be speaking in the diminutive about any other group of people. Being a Maple Leaf is about as low as it gets. You're about one rung up the ladder from the guy who mops the floors at a sperm bank.

Sounds about right, I'd say They're about on the same level as the guy who un-sticks the pages of their magazines. Edited by jimmyemeryhunter
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I'm not sure any Toronto Maple Leaf should be speaking in the diminutive about any other group of people. Being a Maple Leaf is about as low as it gets. You're about one rung up the ladder from the guy who mops the floors at a sperm bank.

From now on when people aren't working hard enough or aren't tough enough I'll refer to them as Maple Leafs.

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From now on when people aren't working hard enough or aren't tough enough I'll refer to them as Maple Leafs.

My niece is throwing a temper tantrum, I told her to stop throwing a maple leaf.

Let's get this around, anything bad just call it a maple leaf.

Car breaks down, it pulled a maple leaf.

Person you don't like, they're a real maple leaf.

It'll be awesome if it gains traction and gets around to Toronto fans, I just wanna see them throwing fits about it.

:lol:

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Oh please let this be a thing.

Someone should make a take off of that "like a girl" super bowl commercial with everything changed to like a maple leaf. Or like a Morgan Reilly if you want to personalize it.

Edited by PavelValerievichDatsyuk
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What's worse right now Maple Leafs or Oilers? Oilers fan throws jersey on ice, celebrates and a fight breaks out in the stands.

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I hope students don't Maple Leaf their auditions for All-States at Region Chorus next week. (Am I doing it right?)

Do the Maple Leafs have the Wheelz on a tank or a short bus?

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What's worse right now Maple Leafs or Oilers? Oilers fan throws jersey on ice, celebrates and a fight breaks out in the stands.

At least Edmonton has known they're bad and give their star players some semblance of peace,Toronto wins two in a row and their fans are talking down to every other fan base planning their parade.

I'll say Toronto's worse, simply because of the way the media treats their best good player, and for the sh**storm they create.

Toronto fans also regularly throw jerseys on the ice.

A few times during play.

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If anybody here is an active reddit user, you should totally make referring to bad things as going maple leaf a forum or sub forum or whatever.

And for the socialmedia addicts, if you don't start making this a thing it'll be totally mapleleaf.

I really want this to spread around.

It would make my year every year until they win a cup... if they dont before I die, it will have made my life meaningful knowing I was there at its creation.

Ha

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Wow, take that, girls.

Lol. They've been acting like sad sacks all year, maybe acting like a girl to him means being tough as nails and carrying the weight of the world on your shoulders while you do what needs to be done.

In which case I'm glad we have so many "girls" on our team.

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Biggest joke of this whole thing is that Rielly actually had to apologize for it...Don't like what he has to say don't read it and move on.

Man the media in Toronto really has to make a story out of everything

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Biggest joke of this whole thing is that Rielly actually had to apologize for it...Don't like what he has to say don't read it and move on.

Man the media in Toronto really has to make a story out of everything

What if he said "Red wings fans are poop"? Am I just supposed to not read it and move on simply bc I don't like it?

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