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Do Maple Leaf fans deserve better?

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I like Clarkson - I really do, but not for the $5.25 million cap hit...For $2 million he'd be a good addition.

Agreed.

I have a soft spot for the Leafs; Wendel Clark, and Doug Gilmour in particular.

There are some Leafs players I really like Orr, McLaren, Kessel, JVR, Bernier, Reimer and that Reilly kid but some are just pure arrogant showboaters (Kadri, Lupul). Add to that a very bipolar loud fanbase, where sadfully the knowledgeable people are also the quiet ones it becomes hard to really "like" them.

Personally the league should thank all Original Six teams without them this league wouldn't even exist and a certain commisher would NOT be allowed to create plastic teams in questionable locations with a marginal fansupport.

As for Carlyle: The guy was just a shortterm fix he is a good coach but also very old school and blunt with his players, some luck that others do not. I know I wouldn't like it.

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I laugh at the idea that a new facility is going to have to be built in order for the Maple Leafs to host one of the gazillion upcoming outdoor games to be played.

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every time this thread comes up, for what already - three and a half years now? - I scream:

NO, they don't!!!

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Yep, they do deserve a better team. You have to feel bad for a city that lives and breathes hockey and has the history that they do. Anyone who hasn't been there for a game and a visit to the HOF needs to go so you can see what I'm talking about. The Leafs have turned into something along the lines of the Detroit Lions of hockey. What a joke.

No Original Six team should be a perennial loser, year after year after year. It's just not in the best interests of the game.

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The Raycroft and Kessel trades are exactly what that fan base deserve. Along with the Clarkson and Phaneuf contracts.

Like every other fan base in every other sport the loudest and most outrageous fans tend to paint the entire fanbase in their colors.

For all the Leaf fans that deserve those trades there are millions who really do deserve to see some success.

Night after night through decades of futility they continue to fill their arena, while also paying the highest ticket prices in the league.

The waitlist to get season tickets there is so long that signing up right now would give your grandchildren, or great grandchildren the opportunity to buy tickets.

I may hate the team, but living in this city it's hard not to feel bad for the fans that just want more than anything else in the world to see their team win. We should have some sympathy for them considering the 42 years our fanbase went without a cup. They're closing in on 50.

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I've said it before, but the die hards that I met/was surrounded by at the WC were awesome and a blast to be around. They live and breathe hockey and were so thrilled after that win. Loud obnoxious fans aside, I'd take them over the Hollywood fans of the week "watching" Kings games any day. And I second the sentiment that I want the O6 franchises to be leading the pack every year. Because of reasons.

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I've said it before, but the die hards that I met/was surrounded by at the WC were awesome and a blast to be around. They live and breathe hockey and were so thrilled after that win. Loud obnoxious fans aside, I'd take them over the Hollywood fans of the week "watching" Kings games any day. And I second the sentiment that I want the O6 franchises to be leading the pack every year. Because of reasons.

Everyone but Chicago...

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gunna watch the Leafs Flames tonight. Leafs just have to win this one or its the golf course again lol

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I've said it before, but the die hards that I met/was surrounded by at the WC were awesome and a blast to be around. They live and breathe hockey and were so thrilled after that win. Loud obnoxious fans aside, I'd take them over the Hollywood fans of the week "watching" Kings games any day. And I second the sentiment that I want the O6 franchises to be leading the pack every year. Because of reasons.

And then when you live in Toronto? You have no idea what Leaf fans are like in Toronto.

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I've said it before, but the die hards that I met/was surrounded by at the WC were awesome and a blast to be around. They live and breathe hockey and were so thrilled after that win. Loud obnoxious fans aside, I'd take them over the Hollywood fans of the week "watching" Kings games any day. And I second the sentiment that I want the O6 franchises to be leading the pack every year. Because of reasons.

There were a lot of cool leafs fans there. And there were a lot of leafs fans I wanted to punch in the face.

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Yep. Sure feels good to see their bi-polar fanbase thrashing around hysterically. 2 months ago Kessel was better than Crosby and every single player on their roster was better than ours, and now........here we are :) Fire everyone. Trade everyone etc etc

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Now I'm no longer pissed we didn't beat them in the Winter Classic. 4 days until the leafs are golfing!

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Now I'm no longer pissed we didn't beat them in the Winter Classic. 4 days until the leafs are golfing!

I was worried it was going to come down to 1pt. Yes, that point.

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Every game we lost this year everyone on the boards said that would be the game that ends up screwing us out of a playoff spot. And all the laughs fans were saying the Leafs were the better team. Fast forward to now, we've clinched a spot, the laughs are eliminated from playing in the playoffs, and I'm happy :)

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Yeah, after reading all the hateful comments about our 23 years of awesomeness!!!!!! from all the butthurt Leafs fan on tsn and Facebook, I'm going to have to reform my opinion of their miserable fanbase a bit and say that I hope they continue to suck for all eternity.

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And then when you live in Toronto? You have no idea what Leaf fans are like in Toronto.

As someone from Toronto, I know all about it. Hence why I think they deserve every bit of the misery they get. Props to my Bruins fan Dad for raising me to not be a Leafs fan.

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Yeah, after reading all the hateful comments about our 23 years of awesomeness!!!!!! from all the butthurt Leafs fan on tsn and Facebook, I'm going to have to reform my opinion of their miserable fanbase a bit and say that I hope they continue to suck for all eternity.

They are the most unpopular team on HFBoards.......and its almost entirely down to their fans.

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St. Shanny to the rescue?

I'm seeing this thrown around a lot lately, is this a "where there's smoke there's fire" thing or just wild speculation?

Edit: Hmmmm...

@cotsonika: NHL executive to Toronto Maple Leafs president? The future's wide open for Brendan Shanahan https://t.co/12TH3u65D5 via @YahooEhGame

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Yeah, after reading all the hateful comments about our 23 years of awesomeness!!!!!! from all the butthurt Leafs fan on tsn and Facebook, I'm going to have to reform my opinion of their miserable fanbase a bit and say that I hope they continue to suck for all eternity.

Damn, dude, well said!

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I was slumming today and watched the Tim & Sid simulcast thingy they do and heard a stat from Micallef that is mind-blowing: the Leafs had a League worst average of 35.9 shots allowed per game. Miccallef then said he spent about an hour and went back to the available stats and found that since 1997-98, nobody has put up a worse number.

The much lauded TML defence might be a priority to look at.

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