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#1 HockeytownRules19

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 06:32 PM

"There's a way to play to be successful, we know it," Babcock said. "But until we get our head around doing it, we're not going anywhere."

"There gets to be a point in your season where you got to decide, if you think you're a championship-caliber team, that there's a right way to play. Unless you get 23 guys doing it the same way and wanting to do it, nothing's going to happen."


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#2 Echolalia

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 06:52 PM

"Oh no, boys, put those away. Pucks won't be necessary for this practice."

Worked like a charm for my old team. <_<

#3 mjtm77

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 06:59 PM

sounded like Zetterberg is not motivated
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Posted 06 March 2011 - 07:05 PM

sounded like Zetterberg is not motivated

Exactly. The wings blow a 3 goal third period lead, and he is making up excuses like that? And this is the heir to the captaincy? Doesn't sound good at all, oh well I guess those big contracts will do that too you

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 07:07 PM

are u kidding me franzen and z, if ur giving it all with the firepower this lineup has you dont lose the the coyotes, period.

#6 St. Michael (the Red Wing)

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 07:13 PM

Besides the LA game this westcoast roadtrip was piss poor. I hope Babs can do something about it cause I don't see things changing. With playoffs looming more and more around the corner I'm getting nervous....

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 07:14 PM

sounded like Zetterberg is not motivated



Exactly. The wings blow a 3 goal third period lead, and he is making up excuses like that? And this is the heir to the captaincy? Doesn't sound good at all, oh well I guess those big contracts will do that too you

You get that from one quote? He's not motivated because of his big contract?

I think Zetterberg is overly optimistic in a lot of the quotes I read from him in the press, but in principle I agree with him. The Wings are a puck possession team. When that's working, being "fancy" is the right play. But when they're off, it suddenly seems cute and lazy. It's not that simple to just say they were being too cute with the puck.

My main thing is when the puck possession isn't working, particularly when they're being aggressively forechecked, they need to be able to transition to a successful grinding game like Babcock is talking about. It's why in a lot of their off games, the 3rd and 4th lines ending up looking the best because they tend to play that style anyways. When the skill play isn't working, their persistence in trying to rely on talent does seem like they're not willing to compete highly to win.

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 07:15 PM

Besides the LA game this westcoast roadtrip was piss poor. I hope Babs can do something about it cause I don't see things changing. With playoffs looming more and more around the corner I'm getting nervous....

they still didnt play the whole game and broke down at the end, so i that game was piss poor 2

#9 Dimaline312000

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 07:35 PM

Skate em till they Puke Babsy!!

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 08:13 PM

We have won once in regulation in our last 17 games vs. the West. thats pretty pathetic, especially given the talent on this team.

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 08:22 PM

I'm at the point now where I am done with all the excuses. Just win for christs sakes. Your the Detroit Red Wings. Act like it.
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#12 Mabuhay Red Wings

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 08:41 PM

Um... Hey Z and Mule... What???

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 08:54 PM

i was hoping this was going to be about brad mccrimmon

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 09:06 PM

We have won once in regulation in our last 17 games vs. the West. thats pretty pathetic, especially given the talent on this team.


Wait, what?

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 09:17 PM

Wait, what?

Technically, if he wrote that sentence correctly, he'd be correct. In our last 17 games, we have won against a team from the Western Conference in regulation once. It's a pretty cherrypicked fact, though.
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#16 St. Michael (the Red Wing)

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 09:34 PM

they still didnt play the whole game and broke down at the end, so i that game was piss poor 2


true but we did pop in 7 and got the 2 points is which what counts during the regular season....

We have won once in regulation in our last 17 games vs. the West. thats pretty pathetic, especially given the talent on this team.


this is very sad considering the talent we have yes. Our team overrated much?

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 10:00 PM

My main thing is when the puck possession isn't working, particularly when they're being aggressively forechecked, they need to be able to transition to a successful grinding game like Babcock is talking about. It's why in a lot of their off games, the 3rd and 4th lines ending up looking the best because they tend to play that style anyways. When the skill play isn't working, their persistence in trying to rely on talent does seem like they're not willing to compete highly to win.


Exactly! This has been their problem for a long time. When the puck-possesion isn't working, they just keep trying to play the same style. Regular season or playoffs. That's why they've looked so bad in some of their playoff losses. No desperation, no change of style, disappointing early exit. It would be great to see a team that can play both styles as needed.

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 10:50 PM

My main thing is when the puck possession isn't working, particularly when they're being aggressively forechecked, they need to be able to transition to a successful grinding game like Babcock is talking about. It's why in a lot of their off games, the 3rd and 4th lines ending up looking the best because they tend to play that style anyways. When the skill play isn't working, their persistence in trying to rely on talent does seem like they're not willing to compete highly to win.

Agreed.

To many of us it appears that the puck possession style of play is much more challenging to execute once the playoffs begin...Opponents aren't gonna give the Red Wings the time, and space for their style of game...If we think we're playing piss poor now (especially in our own end) just wait until mid April; hopefully by then the persistant issues have been taken care of, and our D is capable of getting the puck outta our own end in a more efficient manner.

Edited by F.Michael, 06 March 2011 - 10:52 PM.


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Posted 06 March 2011 - 10:50 PM

Exactly. The wings blow a 3 goal third period lead, and he is making up excuses like that? And this is the heir to the captaincy? Doesn't sound good at all, oh well I guess those big contracts will do that too you

The Datsyuk for Captain thread may have some truth to it. Nobody on the team trains and works harder than Datsyuk, and in my opinion the guy is a freaking genius on and off the ice. I have done a lot of reading on him.
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Posted 06 March 2011 - 10:52 PM

Didn't we hear this speech last month as well from the players and coaching staff? They can turn it around for a game or two but after that bad habits come creeping in again and they are back to square one.





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