Pat 44 Report post Posted June 3, 2011 I've seen many people ranting and raving about Jiri Hudler on this board and I want to see what you guys think he is worth to this team. I believe he is worth about 1-2m with this years production and if he turns to a 70 point guy maybe a bit more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egroen 384 Report post Posted June 4, 2011 How much is the Mona Lisa worth? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Uncle Danny 155 Report post Posted June 4, 2011 How much is the Mona Lisa worth? More than Hudler, but less than Shea Weber. 1 Namingway reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsyerberger 279 Report post Posted June 4, 2011 (edited) To be honest, given the contracts a large number of players with similar production to him (and many of those with just as unspectacular other areas of the game), I can live with him at $2.8. It's not great, but people should go look at the contracts (and play) of some non-ELC players in the same production range for perspective. It was overpayment for this year, but if he even halves the difference between his production this year and the production that earned him that contract (which would put him in mid 40s points-wise) 2.8 will be quite decent. Bargain if he manages to bounce back fully next season. Good thing about being a Wings fan... we're blessed to not really have any bad contracts. A team that can be fixed with tweaks is nice. I went with 2-3m. The low end of that (2-2.2m) with his play this last season and the upper end of that if he significantly improves next season. Edited June 4, 2011 by Datsyerberger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CaliWingsNut Report post Posted June 4, 2011 He's worth trading... 6 13dangledangle, F2B&G, Detroit \# 1 Fan and 3 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
13dangledangle 968 Report post Posted June 4, 2011 He's worth trading... Ahmen. 1 lil Wing's fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken 16 381 Report post Posted June 4, 2011 1-2 He just doesn't bring enough of anything else besides offense, and he barely brings any of that. It would be nice if he was worth 3-4 cuz maybe we could get a decent body in a trade. But nobody is gonna want an undersized powerplay specialist that can be easily rattled in the playoffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted June 4, 2011 I already know I will catch flak for this, but I voted $3m+. This is not a statement saying Holland should go out and pay him that much; however, Hudler's performance relative to other forwards in the league would rank him just above the $3m mark in value. He scored as a top-six forward (top 180 forwards) despite playing less ES/PP than others with comparable numbers or even lower. It's plainly clear how skilled Hudler is. Also fact is that the cap could be raising to between 62.2 and 64.4. So a player who is worth $3m in 2011-12 is only worth between $2.767m and $2.865m this past season. Matches up nicely with Hudler's salary, and the fact that he was felt to have underperformed a bit; Hudler was supposed to be a UFA right now, and if you assume his past two seasons to make up for the performance in 09-10, he would likely get a deal well clear of $3m. And while Hudler is only a secondary player on the Wings, it's been pretty much the consensus here that he would produce far more on a top line on another team. And isn't that what value is all about? 2 Shaman and Uncle Danny reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted June 4, 2011 His previous season with the WIngs, 3mil+. This season, 1-2mil. I averaged the two and went with 2-3mil. He'll either play like he did this past season or he'll play like a 3mil+ player this coming season. I'm hoping for the latter so he can at least bring in a high end player come the trade deadline. 1 LeftWinger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Wings Addict 787 Report post Posted June 4, 2011 Ladies and gentlemen, David Letterman presents the top ten things worth more useful than Jiri Hudler: Number 10... A bag of pucks. Number 9... A couple rolls of pink tape. Number 8... A set of Christian brand hockey sticks. Number 7... A pair of Daoust skates. Yeah. Daoust skates. Number 6... Any hockey equipment made by Cooper. Number 5... A sheet of NHL official team logo pogs--Hellooo! Number 4... World Champion Icehockey for the Commodore 64. Number 3... A pre-owned boxed set of the Mighty Ducks movies. Number 2... A 20% off coupon at the HenrikZetterberg.com store. Hey-yo! And the number 1 thing that's worth more useful than Jiri Hudler... Link Gaetz's rookie card!!! Baaaa da da da da daaa da da da... 2 LeftWinger and aflac9262 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsyerberger 279 Report post Posted June 4, 2011 I already know I will catch flak for this, but I voted $3m+. This is not a statement saying Holland should go out and pay him that much; however, Hudler's performance relative to other forwards in the league would rank him just above the $3m mark in value. He scored as a top-six forward (top 180 forwards) despite playing less ES/PP than others with comparable numbers or even lower. It's plainly clear how skilled Hudler is. Also fact is that the cap could be raising to between 62.2 and 64.4. So a player who is worth $3m in 2011-12 is only worth between $2.767m and $2.865m this past season. Matches up nicely with Hudler's salary, and the fact that he was felt to have underperformed a bit; Hudler was supposed to be a UFA right now, and if you assume his past two seasons to make up for the performance in 09-10, he would likely get a deal well clear of $3m. And while Hudler is only a secondary player on the Wings, it's been pretty much the consensus here that he would produce far more on a top line on another team. And isn't that what value is all about? tl;dr, GMs pay for offense. Sometimes stupid amounts, but they do it. And if there's one thing Hudler's got... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogreslayer 1,069 Report post Posted June 4, 2011 And if there's one thing Hudler's got... ...he picked up it from an Eastern European prostitute. 6 Mitchmac33, WingZNut13, Zeowingsfan and 3 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaman 713 Report post Posted June 4, 2011 (edited) I voted 2-3m, I still have high expectations this season. I have a feeling you'll see him score 22 goals and have 38 assists next season. I believe. Edited June 4, 2011 by Shaman464 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dawings1905 2 Report post Posted June 4, 2011 my hope is that Hudler and Eva will be traded for a Happy Meal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted June 4, 2011 Way less than he, or his agent, think he's worth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jesusberg 1,256 Report post Posted June 4, 2011 Oh... I'd say about tree fiddy. 3 Konnan511, ogreslayer and Uncle Danny reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaman 713 Report post Posted June 4, 2011 (edited) Oh... I'd say about tree fiddy. I'm sure Eva agrees, hes worth 350,000,000 Edited June 4, 2011 by Shaman464 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperNovaXll 124 Report post Posted June 4, 2011 I voted 2-3m, I still have high expectations this season. I have a feeling you'll see him score 22 goals and have 38 assists next season. I believe. If your right, ill eat the bag of pucks I think he should be traded for Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barrie 900 Report post Posted June 4, 2011 Keep him, he's in a contract year, lets take advantage of it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wombat 26 Report post Posted June 4, 2011 He probably makes about what he should make within the context of NHL salaries and production. The problem though, is that he doesn't have a good role on the Wings team. What he brings to the table isn't anything special... other players do what he does on the Wings, only they do it better. A team that could use a 2nd line skill guy would be a much better fit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dimaline312000 51 Report post Posted June 4, 2011 I'd say no more than $1 Mil. I look at how he played in 08 in the playoffs and how he played this past season, now I know age can be a factor along with other things but I don't feel he's worth any more than just a million. Even that could be used to go after a better player. He's been good but he hasn't played I don't think up to his ability. I think there are a lot of things the Wings are going to have to look at this off-season and they have to decide who is going to fit on this roster to make a team that can make a much more solid run at the Cup next season. This coming season could be a real test for the Wings and Hudler may or may not be a part of this picture. I just want to see my team do well with the very best players they can get. If Hudler is one of those players than fine but he hasn't really reflected it this past season so I don't see him being worth a whole lot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,129 Report post Posted June 4, 2011 (edited) As much as I despise him, I am not gonna say he has no worth, so I voted $1M-$2M. If he was making $1.2M then I could probably put up with his awful play a little more, but I still wouldn't like him on this team... (I wonder who gave him the ONE vote for $3M+....hmmmm....) Edited June 4, 2011 by LeftWinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted June 4, 2011 (edited) Oh... I'd say about tree fiddy. Wait! You gave him tree-fiddy worth of a contract? He tricked me!!! And it's about that time that I noticed that Mr. Holland wasn't Mr. Holland at all, he was infact that God Damn Loch Ness monster! He's worth somewhere between what LGW values him and the outrageous value Eva puts on him. He's all offense and no defense or skating, and he sucked offensively this past season. Edited June 4, 2011 by Konnan511 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted June 5, 2011 my hope is that Hudler and Eva will be traded for a Happy Meal. You have a few thousand posts to contribute to this forum before you can start suggesting things like that. 2 Konnan511 and egroen reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted June 5, 2011 my hope is that Hudler and Eva will be traded for two happy meals. 4 Jesusberg, WingZNut13, Mitchmac33 and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
