eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted June 25, 2011 Shouldn't be a surprise that the guy who signed Campbell to that disgusting contract is the one taking it back on. Maybe it will turn out that Tallon's firing was all an elaborate ruse for Chicago to have a place to dump bloated contracts. Tallon effectively traded Olesz and McCabe for Campbell, Tim Kennedy and a pick. If that were presented to you as one deal, would you take it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Travis 576 Report post Posted June 25, 2011 Very little chance this happens, but this makes the Smyth deal sooo much more interesting. Now I'm really hoping it doesn't go through....Doughty in a Wings jersey: UNBELIEVABLE. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/746932-detroit-red-wings-how-theyre-effected-by-the-philadelphia-flyers-trades The likelihood of the Wings getting Doughty or Johnson away from LA is -50 to 0%. The guy who wrote the article is no different than you or I speculating for the fun of it. Like was previously said, it'd be insane for the Kings to add Richards if it was going to cost them a top Dman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PaZel 19 Report post Posted June 25, 2011 The likelihood of the Wings getting Doughty or Johnson away from LA is -50 to 0%. The guy who wrote the article is no different than you or I speculating for the fun of it. Like was previously said, it'd be insane for the Kings to add Richards if it was going to cost them a top Dman. One could always dream though... Haha I don't think it's nearly as absurd as the cries for Shea Weber. But I agree, it is unlikely to happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Travis 576 Report post Posted June 25, 2011 One could always dream though... Haha I don't think it's nearly as absurd as the cries for Shea Weber. But I agree, it is unlikely to happen. That's true, haha. Bob McKenzie reporting that Smyth for Brule is dead because of concerns over Brule's health. @TSNBobMcKenzie: Ryan Smyth update: LA-EDM had agreed to deal (Brule and a pick), Smyth waived NTC but all reportedly fell apart over Brule's health. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted June 25, 2011 Good move for the Panthers. I'd actually like to see them compete for the playoffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pucktividi 472 Report post Posted June 25, 2011 Filatov to the Sens for a 3rd round pick...mad world Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diluvian04 11 Report post Posted June 25, 2011 Now Tanguay is signed. The free agency pool is getting smaller and smaller. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IllinoisRedWingsFan 49 Report post Posted June 25, 2011 As seems to be the case with most Hawks fans, your friend is an idiot! Believe it or not he is at least in terms of hockey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Travis 576 Report post Posted June 25, 2011 Tallon effectively traded Olesz and McCabe for Campbell, Tim Kennedy and a pick. If that were presented to you as one deal, would you take it? No. Call it personal, but I don't want Campbell anywhere near my team. He's grossly overpaid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsyukianDekes 2,428 Report post Posted June 25, 2011 The4thPeriodDB Dennis Bernstein Simon Gagne will not return to #TBLightning per @AndrewKnollNHL. #LAKings will be among teams to kick tires. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crashnburnluder 385 Report post Posted June 25, 2011 The4thPeriodDB Dennis Bernstein Simon Gagne will not return to #TBLightning per @AndrewKnollNHL. #LAKings will be among teams to kick tires. Where is all this money coming from? Richards, talk about Gagne, and resigning Doughty.... Please bring Doughty to Detroit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings4Life19 150 Report post Posted June 25, 2011 Very little chance this happens, but this makes the Smyth deal sooo much more interesting. Now I'm really hoping it doesn't go through....Doughty in a Wings jersey: UNBELIEVABLE. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/746932-detroit-red-wings-how-theyre-effected-by-the-philadelphia-flyers-trades could holland throw a $7 mill offer sheet his way? yes. but I doubt it happens, holland covets draft picks way to much Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted June 25, 2011 ya, i can't see the kings "kicking tires" for gagne if they can't dump smyth. they'll resign doughty. id LOVE if he fell to us. but not counting on it for a second. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SH444 69 Report post Posted June 26, 2011 Chicago bids adieu to another piece of the core. Is this a serious post? Before, Campbell was always considered the biggest part of the Blackhawks supposed "capocalypse". He was the guy that was supposedly going to keep us from getting the quality depth we needed to make a legit Cup run. he was also the guy who was considered "unmovable" because of his albatross contract. But now that the Blackhawks find a way to dump that horrible contract, it's "lol Hawks lose another pice of their core". What a joke. Campbell was the Blackhawks 4th best defensemen. Also, you said they bid adieu to "another piece of their core". So, what core player have they lost? Byfuglian? Versteeg? Ladd? Madden? What core player have they lost? The Hawks ended up keeping their top 4 forwards, their top 3 d-men, and coming out even in the goaltending situation during the supposed "capocalypse". Now they have all the key players locked up long term, and the cap space to add that quality depth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buppy 1,720 Report post Posted June 26, 2011 Is this a serious post? Before, Campbell was always considered the biggest part of the Blackhawks supposed "capocalypse". He was the guy that was supposedly going to keep us from getting the quality depth we needed to make a legit Cup run. he was also the guy who was considered "unmovable" because of his albatross contract. But now that the Blackhawks find a way to dump that horrible contract, it's "lol Hawks lose another pice of their core". What a joke. Campbell was the Blackhawks 4th best defensemen. Also, you said they bid adieu to "another piece of their core". So, what core player have they lost? Byfuglian? Versteeg? Ladd? Madden? What core player have they lost? The Hawks ended up keeping their top 4 forwards, their top 3 d-men, and coming out even in the goaltending situation during the supposed "capocalypse". Now they have all the key players locked up long term, and the cap space to add that quality depth. I think he was referring to Brouwer. But either way, the core thing was a joke, stemming from a few Chicago fans calling basically everyone they kept, including Campbell, part of the 'core'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaman 713 Report post Posted June 26, 2011 (edited) Is this a serious post? Before, Campbell was always considered the biggest part of the Blackhawks supposed "capocalypse". He was the guy that was supposedly going to keep us from getting the quality depth we needed to make a legit Cup run. he was also the guy who was considered "unmovable" because of his albatross contract. But now that the Blackhawks find a way to dump that horrible contract, it's "lol Hawks lose another pice of their core". What a joke. Campbell was the Blackhawks 4th best defensemen. Also, you said they bid adieu to "another piece of their core". So, what core player have they lost? Byfuglian? Versteeg? Ladd? Madden? What core player have they lost? The Hawks ended up keeping their top 4 forwards, their top 3 d-men, and coming out even in the goaltending situation during the supposed "capocalypse". Now they have all the key players locked up long term, and the cap space to add that quality depth. LOL you got Rostislav Olez for him, his contract is so much worse, after last season when he regressed majorly he is over 3 million dollars worth of useless player. Florida clearly won that trade, getting close to the cap floor, getting a pretty good offensive D man in the process and Chicago lost his point production, even if it was expensive. Chicago may have gotten some cap space freed they have seriously regressed defensively and offensively. As for quality depth, 7 players and 13 million in cap hit, needing a good back up, a #3 defenseman, and two top 6 forwards? I still don't see the Hawks coming into this season much better than they were last season. Edited June 26, 2011 by Shaman464 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pockets 9 Report post Posted June 26, 2011 Is this a serious post? Before, Campbell was always considered the biggest part of the Blackhawks supposed "capocalypse". He was the guy that was supposedly going to keep us from getting the quality depth we needed to make a legit Cup run. he was also the guy who was considered "unmovable" because of his albatross contract. But now that the Blackhawks find a way to dump that horrible contract, it's "lol Hawks lose another pice of their core". What a joke. Campbell was the Blackhawks 4th best defensemen. Also, you said they bid adieu to "another piece of their core". So, what core player have they lost? Byfuglian? Versteeg? Ladd? Madden? What core player have they lost? The Hawks ended up keeping their top 4 forwards, their top 3 d-men, and coming out even in the goaltending situation during the supposed "capocalypse". Now they have all the key players locked up long term, and the cap space to add that quality depth. Id like to add the fact that Patrick Sharp is UFA next year and will command at the very least 3mil a year and probably more if he hits the open market. So you guys arent quite out of the woods yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redwingfan19 293 Report post Posted June 26, 2011 what are the chances holland unloads franzens contract to a team trying to get to the cap floor? i like the mule, but he is seeming to become very injury prone and streaky. that contract could be an absolute albatross in a couple years. everyone talks about trading huds and flip but what about mule? 2 SaCkaveli20 and Shaman reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
8 Legged RedWing 367 Report post Posted June 26, 2011 what are the chances holland unloads franzens contract to a team trying to get to the cap floor? i like the mule, but he is seeming to become very injury prone and streaky. that contract could be an absolute albatross in a couple years. everyone talks about trading huds and flip but what about mule? Yea, let's just trade off one of our best playoff performers when healthy. Sounds good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SweWings 45 Report post Posted June 26, 2011 what are the chances holland unloads franzens contract to a team trying to get to the cap floor? i like the mule, but he is seeming to become very injury prone and streaky. that contract could be an absolute albatross in a couple years. everyone talks about trading huds and flip but what about mule? The return would have to be amazing. And even if Detroit did it to simply get some cap space, the alternatives on the UFA market aren't better than Franzen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Travis 576 Report post Posted June 26, 2011 The return would have to be amazing. And even if Detroit did it to simply get some cap space, the alternatives on the UFA market aren't better than Franzen. Quoted for truthiness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redwingfan19 293 Report post Posted June 26, 2011 its not even about the cap space. my point is that franzens contract COULD be really bad in a year or two if he continues to be injured. with so many team trying to get to the cap floor this could be the perfect time to trade him. im looking more into the future than I am in the now. the return would have to be an nhl ready prospect that can jump into the fold immediately. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e_prime 1,936 Report post Posted June 26, 2011 its not even about the cap space. my point is that franzens contract COULD be really bad in a year or two if he continues to be injured. with so many team trying to get to the cap floor this could be the perfect time to trade him. im looking more into the future than I am in the now. the return would have to be an nhl ready prospect that can jump into the fold immediately. Which is it that you are looking for? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redwingfan19 293 Report post Posted June 26, 2011 Which is it that you are looking for? basically franzen's contract COULD be horrible in a couple years and people on here will be calling for kenny's head. kenny talks about making trades to improve the defense so maybe trade franzen for a d man and get out of his contract. kinda like what philly just did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xtrememachine1 795 Report post Posted June 27, 2011 I just read that Ottawa is looking to move Gonchar and Kuba. I wonder if either of these players are options for us rather than overpaying for someone on the market. Gonchar is somewhat injury prone and commands a $5.5 mil salary, but before he was with the Sens, he had some very impressive numbers in Pittsburgh. He would really boost the PP. I think if we unloaded Hudler, it would really lessen the cap hit that would come with Gonchar. Kuba is a $3.7 mil cap hit and he sounds like a Wings type of defenseman... "Has terrific size and mobility from the back end. Displays both decent offensive instincts and a sound defensive approach. Is also a low-maintenance defender." per THN. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
