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Opinions if Wings have to settle for 'Plan B': Semin and Carle

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What makes you think this line up would make the playoffs?

Regressed badly in defense with only a minor upgrade in offense? There is no way with that defense Detroit goes very far, and saying they may not even make the playoffs is not a stretch.

True story, unfortunately.

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I think Babs would be pissed at Helm not centering the 3rd line since he said last week that Helm is the best 3rd line centre in the game bar none. As for Semin and Carle...I would not be pissed. Would I see this team still being able to compete for the Cup? Maybe. Win it? Things would really have to go their way for that to happen.

I agree about Helm,he belongs on the third line.I also believe it would really great if they could win the cup without the big free agents you'all say they need.Also I like Semin on Pav's line and I wonder if removed from Ovechkin's shadow if we wouldn't see a different Semin?

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This is the best I could salvage without Parise and Suter:

1) Trade Filppula, Cleary, White, 1st for Yandle

2) Sign Semin, Mueller, Carle

Could hold us over until Weber becomes available next season.

CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER

My Custom Lineup

FORWARDS

Gustav Nyquist ($0.875m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Alexander Semin ($6.000m)

Johan Franzen ($3.955m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Damien Brunner ($1.350m)

Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m) / Peter Mueller ($2.000m) / Mikael Samuelsson ($3.000m)

Justin Abdelkader ($0.866m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Jordin Tootoo ($1.900m)

Drew Miller ($0.838m) / Jan Mursak ($0.550m) /

DEFENSEMEN

Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Keith Yandle ($5.250m)

Matt Carle ($3.438m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m)

Brendan Smith ($0.875m) / Kyle Quincey ($3.250m)

Jakub Kindl ($0.883m) /

GOALTENDERS

Jimmy Howard ($2.250m)

Jonas Gustavsson ($1.500m)

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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)

(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)

SALARY CAP:
$70,200,000;
CAP PAYROLL:
$63,762,462;
BONUSES:
$462,500

CAP SPACE (23-man roster):
$6,437,538
Edited by dirtydangles

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This is the best I could salvage without Parise and Suter:

1) Trade Filppula, Cleary, White, 1st for Yandle

2) Sign Semin, Mueller, Carle

Could hold us over until Weber becomes available next season.

CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER

My Custom Lineup

FORWARDS

Gustav Nyquist ($0.875m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Alexander Semin ($6.000m)

Johan Franzen ($3.955m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Damien Brunner ($1.350m)

Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m) / Peter Mueller ($2.000m) / Mikael Samuelsson ($3.000m)

Justin Abdelkader ($0.866m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Jordin Tootoo ($1.900m)

Drew Miller ($0.838m) / Jan Mursak ($0.550m) /

DEFENSEMEN

Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Keith Yandle ($5.250m)

Matt Carle ($3.438m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m)

Brendan Smith ($0.875m) / Kyle Quincey ($3.250m)

Jakub Kindl ($0.883m) /

GOALTENDERS

Jimmy Howard ($2.250m)

Jonas Gustavsson ($1.500m)

------

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)

(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)

SALARY CAP:
$70,200,000;
CAP PAYROLL:
$63,762,462;
BONUSES:
$462,500

CAP SPACE (23-man roster):
$6,437,538

Change Filppula for franzen and I'm all for that roster!!

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I don't want Carle, we will need to overpay big time to get him... What Detroit needs is Right Hand Def, with some size... what about Franson, he's still available for the right price....

I don't want Carle, we will need to overpay big time to get him... What Detroit needs is Right Hand Def, with some size... what about Franson, he's still available for the right price.... another option is Yandle and at the worst case Markov...

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I don't want Carle, we will need to overpay big time to get him... What Detroit needs is Right Hand Def, with some size... what about Franson, he's still available for the right price....

Franson isn't better than Kindl. Having a RH dman isn't worth bringing poor dmen in. We could trade for Enstrom instead of Yandle but I think Yandle is all around better and younger.

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i know were in the sh*t! but dont go crazy and throw away 5 million for 5-6 years on a carle i would rather save the money for shea weber next season !

i would suggest maybe even giving up the 4 1st round picks and like going crazy and throwing a 110 million 12 yr deal to weber and high signing bonus but why risk it that nashville matches and we lose the chance at him next year possibly

point is i hope we dont go crazy and overpay carle as tough as our situation is

maybe take a chance on overpayed boumweester?? at least its only 2 years and he does play 20-25 minutes a game

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Carle and semin. Woo. Hoo.

/ sarcasm :(

lol

maybe kenny will go crazy and throw franzen nyquists and other assets away now for nash,ryan,yandle type trades

Unless it's a 3-4 million for 2-3 years don't get this done Kenny !

haaa more like 5 million a yea for 5-6 yrs it will take at least

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Hope we will not sign him. He could be a good addition at 3.5 per year for 3 years. He will get 5.5/6years from some team though.

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So weber is gonna be the new suter? We will all speculate for a year and then get burned again? fun....

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Save the money for Weber next year. Screw this I'm do pissed we missed out on Garrison. Praise and Heatly texting 2 days ago dragging this shot out.

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think nashville would trade weber's rights to detroit ??(only if we could get him signed to a longterm deal)

they just lost suter for nothing i think its save to say weber will leave as well and theyll end up losing there 2 star defensemen and end up with getting nothing for them

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i know were in the sh*t! but dont go crazy and throw away 5 million for 5-6 years on a carle i would rather save the money for shea weber next season !

i would suggest maybe even giving up the 4 1st round picks and like going crazy and throwing a 110 million 12 yr deal to weber and high signing bonus but why risk it that nashville matches and we lose the chance at him next year possibly

point is i hope we dont go crazy and overpay carle as tough as our situation is

maybe take a chance on overpayed boumweester?? at least its only 2 years and he does play 20-25 minutes a game

That makes no sense. Why pay MORE for your number 2 choice, when you didn't even offer your number 1 choice that much money? I'd rather spend that money on short term deals on Doan, Semin, Carle, etc. Lets not jump off the cliff here...

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That makes no sense. Why pay MORE for your number 2 choice, when you didn't even offer your number 1 choice that much money? I'd rather spend that money on short term deals on Doan, Semin, Carle, etc. Lets not jump off the cliff here...

point is carle wont sign shorterm 5-6 yrs minimum

bouwmeester would only be a 2 year deal thats why i suggested it

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I didn't want Parise nearly so much as Suter, but f*** if this doesn't hurt. I don't want Coliaciavo (or whatever his name is) but or blue line looks like s***. I'd rather have the CBJ blue line at this point.

We needed Suter. With the options out there now, Holland has to find a trade partner. Yandle? I've trade Iron Hook and Tatar plus picks for Webber, through in Franzen. This blue line is atrocious and none of the FAs will help.

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point is carle wont sign shorterm 5-6 yrs minimum

bouwmeester would only be a 2 year deal thats why i suggested it

only an idiot would offer Carle a 5 year/30 mil deal. I mean, if he had a couple really good seasons with the wings and improved his point totals, then he could command a 6-7 mil/year type deal.

I could see Ken Holland landing him for 3 yr/15 mil

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only an idiot would offer Carle a 5 year/30 mil deal. I mean, if he had a couple really good seasons with the wings and improved his point totals, then he could command a 6-7 mil/year type deal.

I could see Ken Holland landing him for 3 yr/15 mil

and you dont think an idiot will offer him a 5-6 year deal??? haaaaaaaaaaaa

just you wait and see ! lol

and matt carle will never be a 7 million dollar defensemen

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