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#1 Barrie

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 09:43 PM

This was inspired by the Valtteri Filppula discussion, I don't see Abby's name in a discussion title. So he doesn't feel left out if he visits the board, feel free to talk about his game here. 

 

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OMG he's only plays 13:11 minutes a night and has 1 Assist in 13 games!!!! What was Holland thinking drafting him at 42nd overall?! Abby only played College Hockey at Michigan State! Holland doesn't have a clue!

 

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 09:55 PM

I've thought for a few years that he was expendable.  He'll likely be guaranteed a spot on the 4th line, even when everyone is healthy, but that's not saying much.    

 

Seems like he used to hit everything when he was first called up years ago.  Not so anymore. 


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Posted 14 February 2013 - 10:15 PM

Im not feeling the same about 8 as I was 4 years ago. He has not gotten any better.

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 10:17 PM

He's not new anymore.  Throw him away and get us someone new to play with...



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Posted 14 February 2013 - 10:54 PM

Drop Abs, bring up Nyquist. Problem solved. 


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Posted 14 February 2013 - 11:05 PM

Abby isn't quite as rockem sockem as he was a few years ago for us.   We need him to get his mean streak back.


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Posted 14 February 2013 - 11:12 PM

Abby isn't quite as rockem sockem as he was a few years ago for us.   We need him to get his mean streak back.


Along with this, comes stupid penalties. Then people can ***** about that again.
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Posted 14 February 2013 - 11:12 PM

Apparently I'm in the minority here.  I think Abdelkader is one of the most defensively responsible players on our team.



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Posted 14 February 2013 - 11:21 PM

Apparently I'm in the minority here.  I think Abdelkader is one of the most defensively responsible players on our team.

On that I agree. Abby seems to be stuck in between. is he an offensive player or a grit player? he hasn't made up his mind, so he ends up not really doing either. he has all the skills we need. Good size, great speed-2nd fastest skater on the team according to Micky, but doesn't use it enough. Even the wings seem to be unsure as to what he is. C or LW.



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Posted 14 February 2013 - 11:25 PM

Apparently I'm in the minority here.  I think Abdelkader is one of the most defensively responsible players on our team.

And he leads the team in hits, is one of the few forwards with more takeaways than giveaways, is eigth on PK time, etc.

 

He hasn't been great, but aside from Tootoo no one in the bottom six has been excelling. IMO I wouldn't be suprised if they Wings want him to be like Cleary was the past few years, or like Homer on the PP. Unfortunately, the second line did not play well last game. 

 

Abby has a spot in the bottom six because he hits, can cycle, and is defensively responsible. Right now he isn't anything more than that- with his skill set he could be a complementary player in the top 9 but it hasn't happened.



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Posted 15 February 2013 - 01:13 AM

We need to get rid of guys like him that play sound defense, are fairly aggressive forecheckers, and makes a hit any time he gets a chance. These kind of guys don't win championships. We need more small forwards who are scared to go to the net and are won't hit anyone because it may hurt.

While he's not putting up the numbers we'd like to see, I think he's playing fairly well so far this season. He's not Helm, but he is filling in pretty well in his absence. Him being put out on the first line yesterday, makes me thint I'm not the only one who feels this way.

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 01:20 AM

We need to get rid of guys like him that play sound defense, are fairly aggressive forecheckers, and makes a hit any time he gets a chance. These kind of guys don't win championships. We need more small forwards who are scared to go to the net and are won't hit anyone because it may hurt.

While he's not putting up the numbers we'd like to see, I think he's playing fairly well so far this season. He's not Helm, but he is filling in pretty well in his absence. Him being put out on the first line yesterday, makes me thint I'm not the only one who feels this way.


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Posted 15 February 2013 - 01:32 AM

The Wings need to SCORE. And he never does.

 

That's not his job. He's a 4th line center, his job is to throw hits, forecheck, provide energy, take face-offs, kill penalties and most importantly keep the puck out of our net.

 

A little more scoring touch would be nice while he's filling in for Helm, and especially when he's taking a spot in the top 6 but its not really fair to judge the kid as anything but a 4th line center.

 

When Helm is back in the line-up I think you'll see a far more effective Abdelkader.



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Posted 15 February 2013 - 01:39 AM

 
That's not his job. He's a 4th line center, his job is to throw hits, forecheck, provide energy, take face-offs, kill penalties and most importantly keep the puck out of our net.
 
A little more scoring touch would be nice while he's filling in for Helm, and especially when he's taking a spot in the top 6 but its not really fair to judge the kid as anything but a 4th line center.
 
When Helm is back in the line-up I think you'll see a far more effective Abdelkader.


He has 1 assist and is a minus 5 in 13 games. He is not throwing hits or dominating on the forecheck or any of that. Im not giving up on him. Im just saying he's making Cleary look good right now.

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 01:44 AM

The Wings need to SCORE. And he never does.

He's scored more goals, (and points), than your boy Emdog, last year, and his previous year. And he isn't afraid to hit. So far this year, Emdog 1g 1a, Abdog 0g 1a. No big deal here. I'll take Abby any day, there. Besides, if your counting on your bottom 6 to score all the goals, you've got bigger fish to fry. All of this will change when Machine Gun Sammy gets back.



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Edited by BigWillieStyle, 15 February 2013 - 02:28 AM.


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Posted 15 February 2013 - 02:23 AM

He has 1 assist and is a minus 5 in 13 games. He is not throwing hits or dominating on the forecheck or any of that. Im not giving up on him. Im just saying he's making Cleary look good right now.

His point totals are irrelevant as far as I'm concerned.

 

He leads the team in hits, has been our 2nd best faceoff man, has drawn more penalties than he's taken, has more takeaways than giveaways and has only been on the ice for 5 GA at even strength. 

 

One of my favorite stats about him though is that his line starts more shifts than any other line on the team inside the Wings end, and 100% of his shifts have ended in the opposition end.



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Posted 15 February 2013 - 02:43 AM

You can't squeeze blood from a stone.  Abby is a grinder and that's all he ever will be.  Nothing wrong with that.  Also, nothing particularly spectacular about that either. 


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#18 cusimano_brothers

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 08:41 AM

Before, his style of play tended to lead to a stupid penalty, from which nothing good came from. A couple of benchings seemed to have changed that, maybe not for the better. He's a "work in progress".


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Posted 15 February 2013 - 09:12 AM

I prefer Abdelkader to the other bottom six forwards we have except Helm and Tootoo. These three I think add the energy dimension sorely missing on this team.


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Posted 15 February 2013 - 10:23 AM

Once Helmer is back, it'll put Abby back where he belongs as the 4th line center bumping out Emdog. Abby is more effective as a 4th line center, going against other 4th lines. He is one of the few players on this team that knows his role and plays it to a tee. I may be alone but I thought he did a hell of a job on the 1st line. For someone who is meant for the 4th line, to come out and play against the Blues 1st line and not make horrible mistakes, it just stands out to me. He seemed like a bat out of hell on the forecheck and provided hits which our top 6 isn't used to. Normally other teams 1st and 2nd lines can get away without the grinding of hits all game, but Abby brought that dimension while he was on the 1st line, and once again it was against the big bodied st louis. 


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