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#1 wings87

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Posted 17 October 2013 - 11:17 PM

Now I know that its only been 7 games and Weiss will need some time to adjust but he has been a completely different player then I expected him to be. He loses the puck too easily he has been slow and looks terrified of the boards at times. He reminds me more of Lang than Filppula.

I didn't get a chance to watch him with the Panthers so I guess my question is, is this the type of player he is or should I expect him to be better going forward?


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Posted 17 October 2013 - 11:27 PM

He'll be better.  Babcock just needs to get the right combo with him.  He's had flashes, but he just needs to settle in more and be better consistently.  On the bright side, with his mediocre 2 points, he's working his ass off and he shoots.  Just needs to get some bounces and some momentum in his favour.


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Posted 17 October 2013 - 11:37 PM

I'm not worried at all. I worked down in Florida for almost a year and caught a ton of Panthers games (unfortunately lol) and Weiss is def the real deal. The Wings play a completely diff system, so it will for sure take a lot more than 7 games to adjust. And in the meantime he's had some beautiful passes and already put the puck in the net a few times (with one being an OT game-winner). He'll get better and better each game he plays in this system.


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Posted 17 October 2013 - 11:38 PM

Tonight was not a good night for him, but I think much of the rest of this season has been better than what most on this forum will tell you (in fact, up until maybe two games ago, I thought he consistently played better than Alfredson).  He has a good skill set and he is versatile.  He just needs to get a little more comfortable in the Winged Wheel and develop some chemistry with a couple of guys.



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Posted 17 October 2013 - 11:50 PM

how much longer do we have to pretend that this guy doesn't suck?



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Posted 18 October 2013 - 12:05 AM

I'm not worried at all. I worked down in Florida for almost a year and caught a ton of Panthers games (unfortunately lol) and Weiss is def the real deal. The Wings play a completely diff system, so it will for sure take a lot more than 7 games to adjust. And in the meantime he's had some beautiful passes and already put the puck in the net a few times (with one being an OT game-winner). He'll get better and better each game he plays in this system.

I felt his best game was the second Boston game and was hoping he would build of it, but he just seems slow for the wings system.


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Posted 18 October 2013 - 12:18 AM

He's going to be fine... he's responsible in the defensive 3rd and just needs some time to click in the offensive third.  You can see that he is not on the same page with his wingers on offense, but his linemates have been changing as well.

 

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Posted 18 October 2013 - 12:38 AM

He's going to be fine... he's responsible in the defensive 3rd and just needs some time to click in the offensive third.  You can see that he is not on the same page with his wingers on offense, but his linemates have been changing as well.
 
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Winning is great but it will dry up fast if your second line can't produce any points.

Edited by wings87, 18 October 2013 - 12:39 AM.

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Posted 18 October 2013 - 05:15 AM

how much longer do we have to pretend that this guy doesn't suck?


Well I would say long enough for him to prove it. Shouldn't be long now. Why are you always so negative and condescending?

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Posted 18 October 2013 - 05:56 AM

all i can say is i hope its just him adjusting to things. much more puck control here than florida. hes use to just run and gun hockey. that doesnt happen here. right now i am not happy with him. i thought alfie would be bust and this guy was going to rack up points. step it up buddy



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Posted 18 October 2013 - 06:22 AM

I think anyone who plays for the Panthers for over a decade would need more than eight games to really get going on this team. And don't forget: he missed most of last season.

 

Weiss is a very good player. I'm not worried.


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Posted 18 October 2013 - 06:48 AM

Well I would say long enough for him to prove it. Shouldn't be long now. Why are you always so negative and condescending?

 

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Well what do you expect right now he played for the Panthers!  I have faith in him,  He just needs more time.


Edited by Hockeymom1960, 18 October 2013 - 06:47 AM.


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Posted 18 October 2013 - 07:01 AM

I don't see the problem to be honest. He's made some great plays, for example the other night blocking 2 shots right in front of the goal and saving a goal. Overall he's been good and I expect him to get better and better, would really help if he develops some chemistry with someone.

We're winning games and Franzen and Abby looks like they've found eachother, if Weiss gets involved too that 2nd line could be very good.

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Posted 18 October 2013 - 07:38 AM

how much longer do we have to pretend that this guy doesn't suck?

As long as you frequent LGW's.



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Posted 18 October 2013 - 07:51 AM

Mixed feeling so far.I like the fact he's not shy to crash the net or shoot,but I've also seen him way too many times loosing his man in his own zone.

 

He can play much better,let's judge him after 20-30 games though.He's playing for the new team after long term injury.



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Posted 18 October 2013 - 07:53 AM

Mixed feeling so far.I like the fact he's not shy to crash the net or shoot,but I've also seen him way too many times loosing his man in his own zone.

 

He can play much better,let's judge him after 20-30 games though.He's playing for the new team after long term injury.

Agreed.

 

We're only several games into the season...Give him until Christmas to see what he can do before we roast him.



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Posted 18 October 2013 - 07:55 AM

You guys are being too harsh. He's been key to several really good plays. The points will follow.
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Posted 18 October 2013 - 07:56 AM

I actually completely disagree with him looking terrified along the boards, the one thing he excels at in my opinion compared to fil is his ability along the boards. 



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Posted 18 October 2013 - 08:18 AM

I actually completely disagree with him looking terrified along the boards, the one thing he excels at in my opinion compared to fil is his ability along the boards. 

Agreed.

 

Unlike Fil - Weiss looks comfortable along the boards, and going to the net...The best part is that Weiss also seems capable of shooting the puck...It's only several games in - the points will come when he, and his revolving door linemates settle down.



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Posted 18 October 2013 - 08:20 AM

I think anyone who plays for the Panthers for over a decade would need more than eight games to really get going on this team. And don't forget: he missed most of last season.
 
Weiss is a very good player. I'm not worried.


But it's been 8 games, time to trade him! Remember when we traded z because of that 12 game goal scoring drought he started with 2 years ago, cause he was past his prime... Oh wait, we gave him time and he proved he was still elite, I guess that's what happens.





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