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#201 Son of a Wing

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 03:32 PM

Captaining his home country (possibly his only chance) was a big deal for him. He's given so much to us, IMO it's only fair he get that special opportunity. Now that he's back I don't want him playing till he's 100% though

 

Agreed. The entitlement and sense of ownership over Datsyuk is getting a little ridiculous here...


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Posted 25 February 2014 - 03:42 PM

 

Agreed. The entitlement and sense of ownership over Datsyuk is getting a little ridiculous here...

 

the red wings do own him. He is under contract and paid good money to play for the red wings, not russia

 

i know i'm in the minority here, but he had no business playing in the Olympics if he's so injured that he can't play for the wings

 



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Posted 25 February 2014 - 03:47 PM

 

the red wings do own him. He is under contract and paid good money to play for the red wings, not russia

 

i know i'm in the minority here, but he had no business playing in the Olympics if he's so injured that he can't play for the wings

 

 

Respect is a 2-way street. He can leave at anytime...

 

Considering what he has done for this franchise and fanbase, you would think people would be a little more accommodating when he wants to chase a dream.


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Posted 25 February 2014 - 03:59 PM

 
Respect is a 2-way street. He can leave at anytime...
 
Considering what he has done for this franchise and fanbase, you would think people would be a little more accommodating when he wants to chase a dream.


So I can agree with you!

Yeah, he's one of two marquee players on this team... A true pillar of the Wings. The Olympics are held in his home country and he gets to be the captain. This opportunity won't happen again in his hockey career. Most of you would do the same in that context, so I don't understand all the whining. Must be the long winter.

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 04:22 PM

 

Respect is a 2-way street. He can leave at anytime...

 

Considering what he has done for this franchise and fanbase, you would think people would be a little more accommodating when he wants to chase a dream.

I actually thought he looked great during Olympics, he was easily the best player Russia had. And with the way he looked during the Olympics I'm just kinda surprised and a little confused why he thinks he's not healthy enough to play when the season restarts. 

 

P.S. I have absolutely no problem with him going to play for Russia, I'm actually happy he did. 


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Posted 25 February 2014 - 04:57 PM

I actually thought he looked great during Olympics, he was easily the best player Russia had. And with the way he looked during the Olympics I'm just kinda surprised and a little confused why he thinks he's not healthy enough to play when the season restarts. 
 
P.S. I have absolutely no problem with him going to play for Russia, I'm actually happy he did. 

Legit question here. Is it a known fact that he thinks he may not be healthy enough? I was thinking maybe he actually does want to play and thinks he's healthy enough but the team is recommending he doesn't until he's 100% (which given our playoff situation doesn't seem like a good idea). But like I said I dunno, could be totally wrong.

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 05:06 PM

Z and D are pathetic for playing in the Olympics injured. They should focus on playing for the team that puts food on their table - THE DETROIT RED WINGS. I say we trade Z for whatever we can get because he's just going to get older/more fragile.



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Posted 25 February 2014 - 05:14 PM

 

Respect is a 2-way street. He can leave at anytime...

 

Considering what he has done for this franchise and fanbase, you would think people would be a little more accommodating when he wants to chase a dream.

The wings more than respect Datsyuk. They offered him a nice extension, allowed him to play in Russia, and gave him time off afterwards to be with his family. This wouldn't be done by the wings - or any organization - because a player dangles the "I can leave at any time." If any player did imply that I am sure the wings would let him walk because that is piss-poor attitude and a cheap bargaining ploy. 

 

I think Datsyuk probably should have been back right after elimination to receive treatment and assessment going forward (and brought his family along to visit because they are important too). That would have been the fair thing to do for him and the organization considering everything they have done for each other. Instead we are 1 game before the season starts up again and we don't know what his status is. 


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Posted 25 February 2014 - 05:33 PM

Z and D are pathetic for playing in the Olympics injured. They should focus on playing for the team that puts food on their table - THE DETROIT RED WINGS. I say we trade Z for whatever we can get because he's just going to get older/more fragile.

 

Where did that blasted neg button go when you need it most...


I think Datsyuk probably should have been back right after elimination to receive treatment and assessment going forward (and brought his family along to visit because they are important too). That would have been the fair thing to do for him and the organization considering everything they have done for each other. Instead we are 1 game before the season starts up again and we don't know what his status is. 

 

His family consists primarily of his daughter who his ex-wife has custody of and resides in Ekaterinburg.


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Posted 25 February 2014 - 05:45 PM

A needs to get well and see if he can play at the same level, Pavs took time to play for his country and visit his family, give the guys come slack. Pavel has been nothing but professional.
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Posted 25 February 2014 - 06:01 PM

Captaining his home country (possibly his only chance) was a big deal for him. He's given so much to us, IMO it's only fair he get that special opportunity. Now that he's back I don't want him playing till he's 100% though

I'm sorry but no comprende. 

 

It's one thing if you're in tip top shape, but to be injured and on top of that still on the honeymoon of his massive contract extension to go play in the olympics just to come back and say "Yeah, I can't play" should not be kosher in anybody's books. At some point you gotta draw the line. 

 

If you're too sick to play for your NHL team, you're too sick to play for any team. Should be simple as that. 




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Posted 25 February 2014 - 06:04 PM

i cant get mad at the guy. if i was in his shoes i wouldve done the same thing.

 

its frustrating though when the wings need him now more than ever



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Posted 25 February 2014 - 06:14 PM

Z and D are pathetic for playing in the Olympics injured. They should focus on playing for the team that puts food on their table - THE DETROIT RED WINGS. I say we trade Z for whatever we can get because he's just going to get older/more fragile.

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 06:26 PM

I'm sorry but no comprende. 
 
It's one thing if you're in tip top shape, but to be injured and on top of that still on the honeymoon of his massive contract extension to go play in the olympics just to come back and say "Yeah, I can't play" should not be kosher in anybody's books. At some point you gotta draw the line. 
 
If you're too sick to play for your NHL team, you're too sick to play for any team. Should be simple as that. 


Again, he was the C for his team in his home country. I think that's a pleasantry we can afford him. If it was in Korea and/or Ovi was wearing the C I'd feel a little differently. We have a good rep with players bc of actions like this.

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 06:35 PM

Z and D are pathetic for playing in the Olympics injured. They should focus on playing for the team that puts food on their table - THE DETROIT RED WINGS. I say we trade Z for whatever we can get because he's just going to get older/more fragile.

 

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 07:40 PM

The wings more than respect Datsyuk. They offered him a nice extension, allowed him to play in Russia, and gave him time off afterwards to be with his family. This wouldn't be done by the wings - or any organization - because a player dangles the "I can leave at any time." If any player did imply that I am sure the wings would let him walk because that is piss-poor attitude and a cheap bargaining ploy. 

 

I think Datsyuk probably should have been back right after elimination to receive treatment and assessment going forward (and brought his family along to visit because they are important too). That would have been the fair thing to do for him and the organization considering everything they have done for each other. Instead we are 1 game before the season starts up again and we don't know what his status is. 

agreed

 

This is the issue i have

 

From mlive

 

Pavel Datsyuk (knee) practiced and said he hopes to play, but didn’t sound too sure.

“I hope,’’ Datsyuk, who wasn’t particularly long-winded, said.

Asked if he feels much better than he did before the Olympics, he said, “Similar.”

Asked if his status will be determined after the morning skate, he said, “I hope. I don’t know. Hard to say.”

Asked if this injury will bother him the rest of the season, he said, “I hope so one day the pain is left. Now it’s still the same.”

 

 

so he can play through this injury while playing for his country, but he can't play through it for the red wings? i'm sorry but i'm not giving him a pass for that.



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Posted 25 February 2014 - 07:47 PM

Maybe he was "asked" to play through the injury for team Russia. A very special "request" from Putin... :ninja:

 

Anyhow, now that we know Z is out for the rest of the regular season, does that qualify him for LTIR and some much needed cap relief? Especially if Weiss returns soon?


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Posted 25 February 2014 - 07:51 PM

Z and D are pathetic for playing in the Olympics injured. They should focus on playing for the team that puts food on their table - THE DETROIT RED WINGS. I say we trade Z for whatever we can get because he's just going to get older/more fragile.

 

I see you're from Canada. where you happy that they won the Gold? 

 

Would you have the same problem with Z and Dats playing in the Olympics if they played for Canada and helped them win?


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Posted 25 February 2014 - 08:28 PM

Love your avatar.

 

Thanks. I made it myself. If you want one, shoot me a PM with the details.

 

 

 

I see you're from Canada. where you happy that they won the Gold? 

 

Would you have the same problem with Z and Dats playing in the Olympics if they played for Canada and helped them win?

 

Canada is deep enough to make 2 teams that would win gold. We don't need Z or D.



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Posted 25 February 2014 - 08:36 PM

Just need hank back by playoffs!





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