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#1 LAWings

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 09:36 AM

I couldn't figure out last night what he did and no one bothered to question or explain in during the broadcast.  He didn't drop his gloves or retaliate in any way.  There was a lot of chirping between him and Neil so unless Franzen told the ref to pound sand I don't get it.



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Posted 28 February 2014 - 09:41 AM

I have no clue either.  Unless they thought by doing so they were protecting him since he had just become a major target at that point, and kept making all the other player even more pissed by talking trash and laughing at them, and giving them little slashes, etc. 



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Posted 28 February 2014 - 09:41 AM

The refs were worried about Ottawa getting butt hurt if Franzen scored again

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 09:52 AM

I think it's just one of those game managing calls.  The game was over and they kept going after Franzen so in the best interest of everyone they took him out of the game.  I'm sure someone put this in the GDT but here's an awesome quote from Franzen about Neal after the game: 

 

Franzen had "no clue" why Neil went after him: "He usually steps up when the game is over, tries to be the hero, put his cape on fly around"


Edited by nosyt612, 28 February 2014 - 09:59 AM.


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Posted 28 February 2014 - 09:58 AM

I wouldn't be surprised if it was mostly for Franzen's protection. He's scored three goals, it's a blowout, he's probably running his mouth, he's coming off a concussion, and Chris Neil obviously wants a piece of him.


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Posted 28 February 2014 - 09:59 AM

I think it's just one of those game managing calls.  The game was over and they kept going after Franzen so in the best interest of everyone they took him out of the game.

I don't agree with the call, but I think this was the reason. FWIW Franzen did more than a lot of enforcers that get the same call near the end of games.



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Posted 28 February 2014 - 11:44 AM

Chris Neil gets call from Shanny regarding intentional head shot?  Especially on someone just coming back from a concussion.  



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Posted 28 February 2014 - 11:48 AM

Chris Neil gets call from Shanny regarding intentional head shot?  Especially on someone just coming back from a concussion.  


He should. Doubt he will.

"He usually shows up when the game is over and tries to be the hero. Puts his cape on and goes and flies out there." ~ Franzen 


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Posted 28 February 2014 - 12:17 PM

I don't know why he got the penalty, but I was watching a video of the incident and there's a really funny exchange between Franzen and the Ref. The video is here:

 

https://www.youtube....ceI-BVVxc8#t=47

 

The Ref is leading him off at :40 and for some reason he keeps patting Franzen's butt. You can see Franzen get really annoyed at :50. Maybe he just didn't like being led off, but it looks to me like he just doesn't like butt pats as much as BottleofSmoke.



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Posted 28 February 2014 - 01:04 PM

I don't know why he got the penalty, but I was watching a video of the incident and there's a really funny exchange between Franzen and the Ref. The video is here:

 

https://www.youtube....ceI-BVVxc8#t=47

 

The Ref is leading him off at :40 and for some reason he keeps patting Franzen's butt. You can see Franzen get really annoyed at :50. Maybe he just didn't like being led off, but it looks to me like he just doesn't like butt pats as much as BottleofSmoke.

 

Did Franzen try to give the ref a high five?  Haha.



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Posted 28 February 2014 - 01:32 PM

I don't know why he got the penalty, but I was watching a video of the incident and there's a really funny exchange between Franzen and the Ref. The video is here:

 

https://www.youtube....ceI-BVVxc8#t=47

 

The Ref is leading him off at :40 and for some reason he keeps patting Franzen's butt. You can see Franzen get really annoyed at :50. Maybe he just didn't like being led off, but it looks to me like he just doesn't like butt pats as much as BottleofSmoke.

Earlier in the game he took a face-off with that same linesman and gabbed the NHL patch on his shirt. or copped a quick feel.

 

In any case Franzen cracks me up all the time with his awkwardness. Remember when he grabbed kayne's mouth guard. 


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#12 BottleOfSmoke

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 01:37 PM

The Ref is leading him off at :40 and for some reason he keeps patting Franzen's butt. You can see Franzen get really annoyed at :50. Maybe he just didn't like being led off, but it looks to me like he just doesn't like butt pats as much as BottleofSmoke.


He was just aggravated that the butt pats weren't from me. What you can't hear is him saying "nobody pats my butt except BoS, and only when the game's over dammit!"

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 04:49 PM

I have no clue either.  Unless they thought by doing so they were protecting him since he had just become a major target at that point, and kept making all the other player even more pissed by talking trash and laughing at them, and giving them little slashes, etc. 

This right here...

 

We could see Franzen chatting with the ref, and even tapped him on the arm as if he was saying 'oh - ok - thanks for looking out for me'.

 

Not sure if anything else would've happened to Franzen had he returned to the game, but since the game was nearly over why take a chance?



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Posted 28 February 2014 - 05:10 PM

Just read this article about the incident.  If it's not blatantly obvious that Neil is a stupid piece of trash by about the second sentence then I don't know what to tell you.  Whenever anybody tells me fighting is about "protecting your guys" I'm going to point to this.  Just a stupid ape wanting to fight because he wants to fight...against a goal scoring Euro...in a game that completely out of reach...based on an interaction he started...for no reason.  Idiot.

 

http://kuklaskorner....up-with-franzen


GMRwings:  "Well, in other civilized countries, 16 years old isn't considered underage.  For instance, I believe the age of consent is 16 in Canada.  There's some US states where it's 16 as well.  

 

Get off the high horse.  Not like she was 10."

 

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 05:39 PM

Franzen should've done this after the scrum was over for some more laughter:

 



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Posted 28 February 2014 - 05:48 PM

I have to agree with Kipwinger on this one. I am not sure what Neil was attempting to prove??? Maybe that he can still take out the leading scorer for the night in a fight??? I always respected Neil until recently, his game has slipped over the last few years, and personally I believe if he would have played when Probie and Kocur played he would be the only one with lipstick and a purse. Lets face it, Probie and Kocur would have chewed this dude up. Just my opinion.



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Posted 28 February 2014 - 05:54 PM

I have to agree with Kipwinger on this one. I am not sure what Neil was attempting to prove??? Maybe that he can still take out the leading scorer for the night in a fight??? I always respected Neil until recently, his game has slipped over the last few years, and personally I believe if he would have played when Probie and Kocur played he would be the only one with lipstick and a purse. Lets face it, Probie and Kocur would have chewed this dude up. Just my opinion.

 

You don't even have to go as far as Probie and Kocur.  There's probably a dozen guys in the league right now that would butcher Neil.  Which is why he gets in scrums with kids (Smith) and goal scorers (Franzen) now.  It's hard to be taken seriously as a fighter when you've been beaten by every heavyweight and most middle weights in the league.


GMRwings:  "Well, in other civilized countries, 16 years old isn't considered underage.  For instance, I believe the age of consent is 16 in Canada.  There's some US states where it's 16 as well.  

 

Get off the high horse.  Not like she was 10."

 

"Some girls are 17 even though they look 25."

 

 


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Posted 28 February 2014 - 06:01 PM

I have to agree with Kipwinger on this one. I am not sure what Neil was attempting to prove??? Maybe that he can still take out the leading scorer for the night in a fight??? I always respected Neil until recently, his game has slipped over the last few years, and personally I believe if he would have played when Probie and Kocur played he would be the only one with lipstick and a purse. Lets face it, Probie and Kocur would have chewed this dude up. Just my opinion.

I think you answered your own question here. As I don't agree with what Neil did, when you are a goon with not much skill you need to maintain "standout power" or else you get buried like Tootoo. 

 

For the sake of his career and maintaining a roster spot, he's making efforts to step in after an embarrassing loss and stick up for his squad. It's something that draws attention away from the scoreboard and mixes things up a bit. He's finding ways to make himself a noticeable player on the ice to keep his career going as he's not scoring on occasion like he was and is offering less overall. 

 

Again, I don't agree with it, but I think this is the case entirely.


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Posted 28 February 2014 - 06:13 PM

Franzen is a big boy, if he ever "snaps", it'll take his entire line to restrain him. That said I agree he was handed the misconduct just to get him off the ice, if I was the powers that be I would rather let Toots take Neil off the ice.


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Posted 28 February 2014 - 06:28 PM

It's obvious he was protecting him from further injury. He, like all of us want more curly fries this season.







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