wings7 62 Report post Posted April 21, 2014 What are your thoughts? Change anything? Personally, I'd like to see Dats get a better lineup and the original kid line back together. Also, Bert and Anderson in, Alfie and Glendening out. Nyquist - Datsyuk - Abdelkader Tatar - Sheahan - Jurco Franzen - Helm - Bertuzzi Miller - Legwand - Anderson 1 matt198913 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_SP_ 129 Report post Posted April 21, 2014 Someone in another thread posted a lineup I liked a lot: Legwand-Datsyuk-NyquistJurco-Sheahan-Tatar Franzen-Helm-BertuzziMiller-Glendening-Abdelkader Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted April 21, 2014 Do you guys really think Bert is that much of an upgrade over Alfie? I get that he is physical - but isn't the consensus that our speed is what beats Boston? In that case you keep Bert off the ice. Bert can't be on the ice for 60min policing the game anyways. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trule23 119 Report post Posted April 21, 2014 Gus-Dats-Abby Tatar-Sheahan-Jurco Franzen-Legwand-Alfie Miller-Glendening-Andersson/Bert Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted April 21, 2014 Gus-Dats-Abby Tatar-Sheahan-Jurco Franzen-Legwand-Alfie Miller-Glendening-Andersson/Bert Was helm injured? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_SP_ 129 Report post Posted April 21, 2014 Do you guys really think Bert is that much of an upgrade over Alfie? I get that he is physical - but isn't the consensus that our speed is what beats Boston? In that case you keep Bert off the ice. Bert can't be on the ice for 60min policing the game anyways. I like Alfie a lot, actually, if Z and Datsyuk are healthy, he's on the top line with them. I just don't think that he fits with what I was trying to do there, unless we're to give Franzen the boot (PLEASEEEEE) 1 ShanahanMan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted April 21, 2014 I would keep the same roster. The Wings didn't play their game the way they should have, and the results are exactly how we would expect that to go. Talk to the guys (and practice) about tightening down the slot and playing heavy in front of Jimmy, and for heaven's sake practice crossing center ice on the power play with SPEED instead of floating to the blue line expecting Boston to let them in. Play to our strengths. Speed and tenacity are our strengths. So let's play fast and tenacious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trule23 119 Report post Posted April 21, 2014 my bad helm for glendening Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted April 21, 2014 (edited) Tatar datsyuk bertuzzi Jurco sheahan legwand Franzen helm nyquist Abdelkader glendening alfredsson Bring back Bert for one game just for his size .... Move up legwand (see if he actually makes his trade deadline acquisition worth it ) Try and get mule and nyquist going again by putting them on the 3rd line and hopefully getting good match ups I think in the end we won't panic and we will go back with the same lineups Edited April 21, 2014 by nyqvististhefuture Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matt198913 932 Report post Posted April 21, 2014 I would like this Abdelkader Datsyuk Alfredsson Tartar Sheahan Jurco Nyquist Legwand Franzen Andersson Helm Glendening Smith Kronwall Quincey Dekeyser Kindl Sproul Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted April 21, 2014 I think for once Babcock actually has the players who deserve to play playing. As a team we came up short tonight - changing players will only weaken us. We need to stick to our plan and we can get results like Game 1. Also the Bruins will have a hard time at the Joe because I know our fans will give them a hard time - they won't be running around quite as much. Also I believe their is a hometown effect on the refs where the refs get slightly influenced by the crowd from time to time. 1 Frozen-Man reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Salviaman 104 Report post Posted April 21, 2014 Tootoo vs Chara 2 trule23 and King Crane reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puckbags 863 Report post Posted April 21, 2014 Bert in for Sheahan, Move legwand up, Bert on the 4th and PP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings_fanatic 677 Report post Posted April 21, 2014 We do not need to make roster changes, but Franzen needs to get the hell away from Pav! Babs needs to do a better job of getting the most of of certain players. What I mean by that is Alfie can produce for us when he is given a scoring line, so since Franzen does crap all, demote him already. Lets see some changes. Nyquist- Datsyuk- Jurco Tatar- Sheahan- Alfredsson Franzen- Legwand- Abby Glendening- Helm- Miller I think Pav is playing really well and would benefit from the youth with him. Nyquist and even the kid line has been quiet so far, so maybe these changes will spark things. Nyquist needs to stay with pav and I think Jurco adds a nice physical element to the line and I like adding the veteran Alfie to play with the kid line and then the 3rd line still has offensive skill and then the 4th line is amazing shut down. Also, what in the name of GOD is it going to take for Babcock to play BRENDAN SMITH ON THE PP!!!!!!!!!!!! Nyquist- Datsyuk- Franzen Alfie- Kronners (The 1st unit has sucked since Babs decided for no reason to NOT have a right handed Alfie out there) Jurco- Sheahan- Tatar Dekeyser- Smith Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted April 21, 2014 I think Sheahan with Datsyuk could be solid. These two protect the puck better than anyone else currently healthy. Nyquist - Datsyuk - Sheahan Tatar - Helm - Jurco Franzen - Legwand - Alfredsson Miler - Glendening - Abby First line = keep away and protects the puck - good passing. Sheahan is basically same size as Abby but with hands to help Datsyuk. Second line = Speed kills Third line = The old-timers - Bunch of vets together that all run the same speed. Fourth line = Fast blue collar line that works hard and throws the body around. 1 trule23 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WorkingOvertime 536 Report post Posted April 21, 2014 I would like this Abdelkader Datsyuk Alfredsson Tartar Sheahan Jurco Nyquist Legwand Franzen Andersson Helm Glendening I like these lines, but with Miller in for Andersson. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nyquistfan14 489 Report post Posted April 21, 2014 (edited) I think a wildcard play for babs that'ls risky but I would do would be to bring sproul and xo in. Gives us better puck movement and mobility on the back end. Plus sproul can hopefully help the pp As far as up front it is clear that pavs is the best player in this series and it's not even close. Legwand- datsyuk- nyquist Tatar- sheahan- jurco Franzen- helm- alfy Miller- glenny- Abby Need to score more goals, get Legwand in an offensive role and hope he can spark something with pav and nyquist. Hopefully the mule can't take advantage of easier matchup and the kid line needs to start being the kid line that we love to watch Edited April 21, 2014 by Nyquistfan14 1 WingsallTheway reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted April 21, 2014 Agreed about Sproul or Oullet. They can't be worse than Kindl or Layoff right now and might be good. I wouldnt put both in, because Boston will exploit them mercilessly. I'm not sure who you'd pair them with, though. Could cause lots of turnover. And why are people slotting Bert in the lineup? He's slow and wouldnt replace someone who deserves to sit. Franzen is due but I'd like to see him on the third. I don't want to sacrifice team offense just waiting for him to wake up. Play him easier minutes on the third. His hitting and defense fits in well there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,440 Report post Posted April 21, 2014 Dats and Nyquist don't work. Dats and Nyquist don't work. How many times do we have to generate zero offense before we realize...Dats and Nyquist don't work? 1 lwing reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted April 21, 2014 Abdelkader - Datsyuk - Alfredsson Nyquist - Legwand - Franzen Tatar - Sheahan - Jurco Miller - Helm - Glendening 2 puckbags and Detroit \# 1 Fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted April 21, 2014 I've liked Bert over the years as much as anyone.. but I'd rather see alfie in and the wings just play their game. Last change at home.should help but we can't let Boston trick us into playing their style of hockey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,198 Report post Posted April 21, 2014 There is no reason to want Bertuzzi in. He's not physical, he doesn't actually help on the power play, and you know he's a couple stupid penalties waiting to happen. We need goals, Alfredsson is a goal-scorer. He hasn't scored, but neither has anyone else. Glendening is fine. He has one more goal than Nyquist, Tatar, Sheahan, Jurco, Franzen, Alfredsson, Helm, Legwand combined.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,960 Report post Posted April 21, 2014 I don't think any changes need to be made unless they play bad tomorrow night. Last change will help a lot in terms of generating offense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings7 62 Report post Posted April 21, 2014 I get where some of you are coming from with Bertuzzi. The thing I like about Bert is he isn't afraid to get hit and make a play to get the puck out of the zone. Alfie, I hate to say, appears to be scared and will not always get the puck out. Alfie just looks like he is done. Anderson offers more size then Glendening. I think we need that size. But if only one move is made, than I'd say Bert for Alfie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PavelValerievichDatsyuk 1,935 Report post Posted April 21, 2014 I get where some of you are coming from with Bertuzzi. The thing I like about Bert is he isn't afraid to get hit and make a play to get the puck out of the zone. Alfie, I hate to say, appears to be scared and will not always get the puck out. Alfie just looks like he is done. Anderson offers more size then Glendening. I think we need that size. But if only one move is made, than I'd say Bert for Alfie. I disagree. There is physical size and the way you play. Glendening plays like a much bigger player. Our problem was getting to the front of the net and winning battles along the boards. That is Glendening's game. Keep him in Share this post Link to post Share on other sites