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2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

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#firekenholland

EVERY defenseman that has signed a UFA contract thus far this off season is better than Quincey. "I don't know why they aren't coming here..."

Maybe because you sign #KFQ for $4.25M and offer better players less....they just take the less somewhere else. :lol: Think about it, Holland overpaid for Quincey 3 times...1st round pick to get him, $3.75M his last contract and $4.25M now...I don't blame #KFQ at all, he is probably laughing all the way to the bank...

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A list of guys still UFA that would help in some way on this club...and are better than #kfq:

Derek Morris

Paul Ranger

Sami Salo

Scott Hannen

Hal Gill

Michael Del Zotto

Ryan Whitney

Joni Pitkanen

Sheldon Brookbank

Ratislav Klesla

Mike Komisarek

Komisarek, Morris and Salo are RH as well...

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are you kidding me volchenkov got 1 mil?

the F holland

I refuse to believe it otherwise I would be very mad :(

So far my conclusion (in the east at least):

1. Bruins

Got worse you don't give up on an energy and leadership guy like Thornton AND on your best goalscorer. Iginla was the perfect fit for Boston, he brings size, leadership, class and is still a very skilled player. I think Boston is going to regret some decisions this off-season, but they are still going to be a top team in the east.

2. Tampa Bay

Depth and defense fixed with some great contracts, if Bishop can continue his pre injury form watchout east Y is building a juggernaut there... :(

3. Washington Capitals

For the first time since forever the team is having a coach, who expects and appreciates hard work, add to that Niskanen and I think their run and gun no matter what days are going to be over ==> dangerous team.

4. Columbus

Well they've added Hartnell which should make them even tougher to play against, they are for sure in the mix again.

5. Pittsburgh

Replacing Niskanen with Ehrhoff gives them an eaven deadlier PP but also less defensive ability, add to that the new coach and GM and I think they are looking at a somewhat down year (for their expectations).

6. Canadiens

I don't think they can repeat their last season Cinderella story, they've traded away a good amount of leadership with Gorges, Parros (when that guy speaks you better listen...) and Gionta. So in my mind they've gotten worse but will make the playoffs again.

7. Toronto

Haven't done anything worth mentioning so far ? So it's tough to say maybe they are bringing some of the younger Marlies up ? If Shanahan is stuiid enough to get rid off a great locker room and very well liked guys like Orrr and Reimer they'll for sure take a step back. Bernier played outstanding yes but it's only one season and that's not a big enough sample size.

8. Florida

I think they could be a darkhorse team when it comes down to making the playoffs, that Ekblad - Gudbranson pairing is looking extremely dangerous and Luongo will provide some excellent goaltending for them. Although that Bolland signing is LOL

9. Ottawa

I hope everyone there is playing his heart out for Murray. Replacing Spezza will be not only tough but hardly accomplishable in such a short amount of time. Melynk open your damn pocket and let him ice a roster than can at least make the playoffs you penny pincher.

10. Philadelphia

They've been extremely quiet so far other than that Hartnell trade nothing major ? I clearly expect them to make a huge move before the season starts. Being quiet is not Flyers style come UFA ...and I think Hextall is going to bring in some defensive stallwart.

11. Rangers

Kreider hasn't been re-signed yet and if Sather takes him to arbitration the relationship will go sore and I don't think Boyle is the answer for them (they've needed help at the forward position), also replacing Richards won't be easy so at the best they arent better or worse.

12. Detroit

Been discussed ad nauseum, superstars 1 year older, defense still only a top 3 and a lot of questionmarks in terms of forward depth => got worse. No I won't use injury excuses or thousand IF possibilities right now to me this team is worse than last year, period.

13. Buffalo, New Jersey and Carolina

Buffalo improved a bit in terms of leadership but also lost a ton of grit in Scott..the Devils and Hurricanes really didn't do much so I think those three will be at the bottom of the east again.

Predictions:

1. Pittsburgh

2. Boston

3. Tampa Bay

4. Washington

5. Canadiens

6. Rangers

7. Columbus

8. Philadelphia

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A guy who is arguably better than Quincey just signed for less than 1/4 the price.

Process that for a moment.

Yes, it's definitely arguable.

He's certainly has been a good stay at home guy... when he's healthy... but we don't need a stay at home guy whose durability is questionable at best. I don't care how little he signed for... we need a puck mover.

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Sorry but Volchenkov is NOT better than Quincey. Some peoples hatred is blinding...

He's approaching his mid-30s with significant injury history from making his living blocking shots and playing an abrasive style with ZERO offensive upside.

It's like he fills all our needs! :confused:

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Towers and Kane extended for 8 years per NHL.com. Don't know the terms.

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Future is next year. They have many RFAs and important UFAs to sign.

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Toews and Kane signed identical 8 year, $10.5M contracts...

Anyone else feel that the Hawks could be screwed cap wise in the near future?...

It's like deja vu...

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Just ask the penguins how easy it is to have quality depth when you pay two players max contracts. There is a reason why the penguins have failed repeatedly. The hawks are better off than the penguins because they actually seem to draft properly, but it will be difficult to find quality 3rd and 4th liners that aren't literal plugs. But on the other hand you cannot let Toews and Kane walk ever if you are the Blackhawks.

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Yes, I would say they screwed up. I guess this upcoming season is going to be their one window to win it all...

As of right now, they only have $3.2M in cap space with only 15 players under contract. They most definitely will NOT be re-signing Richards. I believe Hossa's days are numbered there as well. They could very well lose Oduya as well. He is a UFA after next season and currently makes $3.375M. He will most definitely get a raise and they just don't have the space. Even if the axed Hossa's $5.2M that is only $8.4M with 14 players signed...kind of hard to get 10 players signed for $8.4M especially if you give Oduya the raise he will earn. (I would say at least $4.5M and that would be a home team discount.)

I will take Hossa and Oduya from them whenever they are ready! :lol:

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Only this time I don't see how they can keep half of their guys, including part of their core. They're going to have to get rid of one or two of Hosse, Sharp, Keith or Seabrook after this season, no question.

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Just ask the penguins how easy it is to have quality depth when you pay two players max contracts. There is a reason why the penguins have failed repeatedly. The hawks are better off than the penguins because they actually seem to draft properly, but it will be difficult to find quality 3rd and 4th liners that aren't literal plugs. But on the other hand you cannot let Toews and Kane walk ever if you are the Blackhawks.

Well, believe me, I'm not fan of the Hawks, or the Pens, but I think you're a little off base here. Any team that has Crosby, Malkin, Neal, Kunitz, Jokkinen, Dupuis, Sutter, Niskanen, Letang, Morrow (for a year), Iginla (for a year), Orpik, Martin, Scuderi, et. al. SHOULD be competing for Cups. There was no problem with their depth. They just have a mediocre coach and they underperformed.

As long as guys are willing to take less to play for contenders with top flight talent (as the recent signings of Ehrhoff and Richards suggest) then BOTH teams will continue to field competitive teams despite the money allocated to their star players.

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Toews and Kane signed identical 8 year, $10.5M contracts...

Anyone else feel that the Hawks could be screwed cap wise in the near future?...

People have been saying this for years...

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Only this time I don't see how they can keep half of their guys, including part of their core. They're going to have to get rid of one or two of Hosse, Sharp, Keith or Seabrook after this season, no question.

Couldn't they just move one or two of their second tier guys...like they did when they dumped Ladd, Versteeg, Big Buf? If they dropped a combination of Bickell, Versteeg, Shaw, Oduya, and Hjalmarsson they'd shed a lot of money and they'd still be a really good team.

I hate to say it, but the Hawks will be just fine.

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They're going to have to shed approximately 8 million off their cap next season, taking into account the cap rising another couple million next season. No, it probably wouldn't be impossible to keep their entire core together but it definitely won't be easy. If they do, they'll probably have the worst bottom 6 in the league, which isn't exactly ideal either. I think this is huge over payment, although I think the entire league is massively overpaid. So I guess it will be on par with similar players around the league will be making.

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It's funny how some people are freaking out over this. Seriously what they expect without longterm contracts the caphit was for sure going to go up. Bioth of these guys -wheter you hate em of like em - have given 1,5 per discount that's a huge amount of money (12 million over 8 year x 2 = 24 million)

Btw. Crosby's caphit over 8 years = 10,8 so still the highest paid player in the league and rightfully so he is the best one.

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They're actually pretty fair contracts when you consider the comparables and the term of the contract and how the market might change.

Weber - 14mil

Crosby - 12mil (hometown discount)

Parise - 12mil

Suter - 12mil

Lundquist - 11mil

Ovechkin - 10mil

Datsyuk - 10mil

Giroux - 10mil

Kessel 10mil

They just weren't able to lower the cap-hit because they're still pretty young.

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It's funny how some people are freaking out over this. Seriously what they expect without longterm contracts the caphit was for sure going to go up. Bioth of these guys -wheter you hate em of like em - have given 1,5 per discount that's a huge amount of money (12 million over 8 year x 2 = 24 million)

Btw. Crosby's caphit over 8 years = 10,8 so still the highest paid player in the league and rightfully so he is the best one.

Is your period button broken? Because this is not the first time I've seen you use commas instead of period when trying to write numbers in decimal notation.

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It looks like these contracts will be the norm in the next couple of seasons with the cap raising. Makes a guy like Franzen "although he floats" extremely reasonably priced.

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Is your period button broken? Because this is not the first time I've seen you use commas instead of period when trying to write numbers in decimal notation.

Some other countries use that as decimals instead of "." My guess is he isn't from America?

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