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#21 LeftWinger

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Posted 28 July 2014 - 01:16 PM

I too would love to have everyone play 70+ games. It is not out of the question, and I really hope it happens.  IF it does happen, I can see a lot of your predictions happening, bcause a full 100% healthy team makes this team a top 5 Eastern Conference team.  Minus the suppression of the kids that is...

 

 

Zombo...tsk tsk tsk, so just because someone works for the Wings, means that no one is allowed to know them on a personal basis? Ya, ok, as soon as they get hired or play for the Wings or any NHL team they are supposed to ditch their friends.  I am personal friends with Manny Legace's father-in-law, who is personal friends with tons of former, current players, trainers, coaches, JLA employees along with similar people in the St. Louis Blues, Carolina Hurricanes association.  And even if it was just one person's opinion of Helm that I was told about, that doesn't mean that it's true or untrue, it just makes it someone within the organization personal opinion, who is closer to the players and the NHL than you are.  So yes, when lets say for example, a trainer may play pick up hockey at the JLA with someone who isn't part of the organization expresses his personal opinion, that would be info from a Red Wings insider, as compared to all the rose colored homerism from most Wings fans.  Keep in mind that for every trainer you see on the bench there are about 20 that are behind the scenes that work with the players.  So instead of just trying to knock someone down, think about what you are about to say.  Just because you don't know anyone, doesn't mean nobody does. Helm has that rep. Sorry to burst you love bubble over him.


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Posted 28 July 2014 - 01:20 PM

I think because the Wings have had such bad luck with injuries the past few years is a reason to believe that that luck has got to change... and because we have had such short seasons the past few years is a reason to believe that the players that need it the most (Zetterberg, Datsyuk, Franzen, Kronwall, Weiss, Helm, Howard) will be getting the rest they need. The fact that Zetterberg has said that he feels like he's years younger and that his back hasn't felt this good in years, is reason to believe that he may have a relatively healthy year. I also think a long summer off will help the other guys listed as well. I think for anyone that states that half the team will be injured after just two months of hockey is a bit ridiculous. Just my opinion...


As I've stated over and over again, I don't have any problem with negative predictions, I have a problem with people predicting the whole team will be injured... or wait for it... My prediction, Cleary sucks... a lot of thought put in to that one...



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Posted 28 July 2014 - 01:25 PM

It is really simple, if people are asking for predictions there will usually be all sorts of outcomes...Being a realist isn't the same as being a debbie downer just like being optimistic isn't the same as being a delusional fanboy.

 

Anyway, given our outstanding record since 2009 and another wonderful UFA period here are mine:

 

1. There will be injuries and our stars are aging, so their bodies will need longer to recover. So yeah if Pasha and Z can play a combined 130 games I would be very happy with that.

 

2. Top 2 - 3 in the East will only happen if some former all-stars are using their Delorian, then sign with the team in their prime years (yes I'm talking about Lids, Y, Mr. Hockey...). Pittsburgh and Boston will have the number 1 and number 2 spot locked up, after them it will be a battle between Tampa, Montreal, Rangers, Columbus and the Caps. Wings will fight with Toronto, Philadelphia for the last remaining spot.

 

3. The goaltending is not that bad, if Howard struggles again I'm more than comfortable with Gustavsson having to bail him out again. No goalie not even the King would look good behind such an atrocious defense and this is nothing new.

 

4. I'm sure Alfie will be back so this is going to be the exact same roster like last year, only 1 year older. Of course other teams are now knowing well how to shutdown our kidline and this will make life harder for Tatar, Nyquist and Sheahan. So I can't see how the exact same roster which barely made the playoffs all of a sudden would be able to climb near the top of the league again.

 

5. Team is again soft as butter and it only takes one iltimed check for an injury to reaccure, since other teams won't have to fear anyone on this team Z's back will for sure be a target...great times...

 

6. Kronwall will be asked to play in an uncomfortable position again (running the PP) and even forget his former nickname too bad his hits often created excitment back in the days.

 

7. Mantha hopefully - I pray - will get a full season in the AHL to bulk up even more and learn the in and outs of the pro-game. Sproul might be able to get the first 9 games on the roster and then we will see.

 

8. The saddest part, this will be the last year of watching the best coach in hockey using his magic to get a rapidly declining team into the playoffs again. If he succeeds in that regard he should be the frontrunner for the Jack Adams (long overdue).


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#24 LeftWinger

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Posted 28 July 2014 - 01:25 PM

What we should do is change the subject of the topic to "If the Wings stay relatively healthy all year, what are you predictions?"

 

Like I said, if the oft injured players all play 70+ games, it can be nothing but a better year.  If that indeed happens, then I can see a 4th or 5th place playoffs spot for sure, if not higher.  Jimmy has to be pushed to higher expectations though...he has to carry us.


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Posted 28 July 2014 - 01:31 PM

Based off recent injury history and the lack of off-season improvements, I also see us barely getting into the playoffs and being lucky to win one round.  If we can stay injury free or middle of the pack in injuries, then I can see us finishing 4th or 5th.    

 

I'm excited to see the Wings play again, but not as much as I've been in the past. Kenny Holland is succeeding in making this team almost unwatchable.  Don't score, don't fight, don't make off-season acquisitions to excite fans with seeing new players, etc.  Last year was especially brutal to watch.    


LeftWinger, I don't have a problem with people actually predicting some negative things, as long as it's somewhat thought out. To have your only prediction as, 'half the roster will be injured by November', is just being negative for the sake of being negative, and yes, it is just to stir the pot or to piss people off. That's what many people find frustrating on here, some people just spew s*** just for the hell of it. I don't agree with a whole lot of your opinions, but at least there is some validity to your arguments. At least you do seem to care about the team. I respect our differences in opinion, and that's what keeps a discussion board going strong, but people just need to stop with 'the sky is falling', "Cleary sucks", "Holland sucks", "Howard is average", Kyle F*cking Quincey", etc, etc. Same old bulls*** over and over and over again...

 

 

 

I thought about my prediction above and posted it.  With that said.......

 


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Posted 28 July 2014 - 02:02 PM

I too would love to have everyone play 70+ games. It is not out of the question, and I really hope it happens.  IF it does happen, I can see a lot of your predictions happening, bcause a full 100% healthy team makes this team a top 5 Eastern Conference team.  Minus the suppression of the kids that is...

 

 

Zombo...tsk tsk tsk, so just because someone works for the Wings, means that no one is allowed to know them on a personal basis? Ya, ok, as soon as they get hired or play for the Wings or any NHL team they are supposed to ditch their friends.  I am personal friends with Manny Legace's father-in-law, who is personal friends with tons of former, current players, trainers, coaches, JLA employees along with similar people in the St. Louis Blues, Carolina Hurricanes association.  And even if it was just one person's opinion of Helm that I was told about, that doesn't mean that it's true or untrue, it just makes it someone within the organization personal opinion, who is closer to the players and the NHL than you are.  So yes, when lets say for example, a trainer may play pick up hockey at the JLA with someone who isn't part of the organization expresses his personal opinion, that would be info from a Red Wings insider, as compared to all the rose colored homerism from most Wings fans.  Keep in mind that for every trainer you see on the bench there are about 20 that are behind the scenes that work with the players.  So instead of just trying to knock someone down, think about what you are about to say.  Just because you don't know anyone, doesn't mean nobody does. Helm has that rep. Sorry to burst you love bubble over him.

 

I have no love bubble for Helm. I have no personal dislike for the guy either.

 

And I'm so sorry, by the way. When I asked for proof of Helm's softness I really thought you were just quoting hearsay and clubhouse rumors. Little did I know that you source was Manny Legace's father in law!!!!! I feel so silly for second guessing you.

 

And believe it or not, just because one person that's about 3-4 people removed from you says Helm is a puss, that doesn't make it true. And when you were unloading your pessimitic rant on all of us it certainly seemed to me like you were presenting it as fact.


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Posted 28 July 2014 - 03:37 PM

 

Not that I like to admit that I plowed through that entire long-winded pile of gloom, but I have to call you on this. Helm's a wimp because you heard this from an inside source? :lol:

Everyone has an inside source these days dontchaknow?  I met Ryan Sproul in June, we're now the best of friends except he doesn't know my name yet. :ok:


 

I have no love bubble for Helm. I have no personal dislike for the guy either.

 

And I'm so sorry, by the way. When I asked for proof of Helm's softness I really thought you were just quoting hearsay and clubhouse rumors. Little did I know that you source was Manny Legace's father in law!!!!! I feel so silly for second guessing you.

 

And believe it or not, just because one person that's about 3-4 people removed from you says Helm is a puss, that doesn't make it true. And when you were unloading your pessimitic rant on all of us it certainly seemed to me like you were presenting it as fact.

I have a love bubble for Helm.  Every time he's on the ice it's exciting.  Some people hate guys cause unfortunate stuff happens to them causing injury.


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Posted 28 July 2014 - 04:04 PM

minus his kronwalling though, he just doesn't seem to be brave enough to do it anymore.


Do you honestly see Kronwall's reduction in hits as a lack of "bravery?" As the Wings' #1 Dman, the onus is on him to be defensively responsible at all times. He can't afford to take himself out of the play (who's going to cover-Smith?) in order to deliver a soul-crushing hit, the very type the league seems intent on cracking down on, especially if someone's hurt on the play. I don't see that as a lack of bravery, I see that as Kronner recognizing that he is now a leader on this team and adjusting his game accordingly.

As for predictions, I can't wait to see how a pain-free Z plays. If he truly feels better than he has in years, he's going to rep that C beyond our wildest dreams. *lady boner* Same with Pav and The Knee of Infinite Sorrow.

The kids are going to continue to play with swag and light a fire under everyone's ball sack. I love the smell of burnt pubes in the morning. Particularly if that morning is hosting a nationally televised NBC game. Suck it, Edzo.

I lost a lot of confidence in Howard last year, and from interviews I've read it sounds like he understands that his play was unacceptable. He's the big question mark for me this year--when he's on, the Wings are a machine. When he's off we're a bunch of monkeys humping various footballs all over the ice whilst pinching uncontrollably at the wrong times and firing off slappers over the glass resulting in ill-timed penalties and a growing sense of ennui. It's horrible.

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Anyway, while I'm certainly not counting poultry, I do see that there could be some positive things to look forward to this season, despite some of the glaring holes remaining unaddressed.

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Posted 28 July 2014 - 04:47 PM

I think because the Wings have had such bad luck with injuries the past few years is a reason to believe that that luck has got to change... and because we have had such short seasons the past few years is a reason to believe that the players that need it the most (Zetterberg, Datsyuk, Franzen, Kronwall, Weiss, Helm, Howard) will be getting the rest they need. The fact that Zetterberg has said that he feels like he's years younger and that his back hasn't felt this good in years, is reason to believe that he may have a relatively healthy year. I also think a long summer off will help the other guys listed as well. I think for anyone that states that half the team will be injured after just two months of hockey is a bit ridiculous. Just my opinion...


As I've stated over and over again, I don't have any problem with negative predictions, I have a problem with people predicting the whole team will be injured... or wait for it... My prediction, Cleary sucks... a lot of thought put in to that one...

 

I mean, unless you couldn't tell, I was being a bit sarcastic with my response because I didn't think it would be taken so seriously so I apologize if that was unclear.  Like someone else said, though, perhaps the thread title should be changed because it seems like everyone is predicting what they would "like" to see instead of what they think may logically happen.



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Posted 28 July 2014 - 05:20 PM

I too would love to have everyone play 70+ games. It is not out of the question, and I really hope it happens.  IF it does happen, I can see a lot of your predictions happening, bcause a full 100% healthy team makes this team a top 5 Eastern Conference team.  Minus the suppression of the kids that is...

 

 

Zombo...tsk tsk tsk, so just because someone works for the Wings, means that no one is allowed to know them on a personal basis? Ya, ok, as soon as they get hired or play for the Wings or any NHL team they are supposed to ditch their friends.  I am personal friends with Manny Legace's father-in-law, who is personal friends with tons of former, current players, trainers, coaches, JLA employees along with similar people in the St. Louis Blues, Carolina Hurricanes association.  And even if it was just one person's opinion of Helm that I was told about, that doesn't mean that it's true or untrue, it just makes it someone within the organization personal opinion, who is closer to the players and the NHL than you are.  So yes, when lets say for example, a trainer may play pick up hockey at the JLA with someone who isn't part of the organization expresses his personal opinion, that would be info from a Red Wings insider, as compared to all the rose colored homerism from most Wings fans.  Keep in mind that for every trainer you see on the bench there are about 20 that are behind the scenes that work with the players.  So instead of just trying to knock someone down, think about what you are about to say.  Just because you don't know anyone, doesn't mean nobody does. Helm has that rep. Sorry to burst you love bubble over him.

 

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Posted 28 July 2014 - 07:05 PM

The wings will be fighting with Toronto Columbus islanders etx etc for the last two spots in playoffs again. UNLESS it's a freak year and everyone stays healthy...

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Posted 28 July 2014 - 07:43 PM

My predictions?
 
Half the roster is injured by November and they barely scrape into the playoffs again.





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Posted 28 July 2014 - 07:50 PM

I have a bad feeling the Wings finally jump the shark...miss playoffs, officially enter mediocrity

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Posted 28 July 2014 - 08:22 PM

The wings will be fighting with Toronto Columbus islanders etx etc for the last two spots in playoffs again. UNLESS it's a freak year and everyone stays healthy...

I don't think everyone has to stay completely healthy, just healthier than last year. They should be fine as long as Datsyuk and Zetterberg don't each miss half a season. As long as we don't have half our team injured at the same time.

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Posted 28 July 2014 - 09:19 PM

The problem with placing all our hopes on a healthy team is that it ignores the fact that for the first part of last season we were totally healthy and we still weren't that good.  We were also totally healthy for the 4 post seasons before last year.  Same results though. 

 

Like everyone else, I'd obviously prefer we were healthy rather than not.  But a lot of people are going to be very disappointed when they realize that we can make all the excuses we want, but there are a lot of holes in our team that didn't get solved in the offseason, and won't be solved by Datsyuk staying healthy. 

 

We've got an undersized, perimeter, team that can't play in the crease.  We don't have a single top flight player in his prime.  We've got a defense that can't move the puck efficiently. We've got horrible special teams.  And we've got an offensive scheme that hasn't yielded quality results in 5 years. 

 

Obviously, I'd love to be wrong.  The best case scenario is that we get healthy and win a Cup.  But I'm not holding my breath.  Second best scenario?  Get healthy and struggle just as much as we did a year ago.  At least that way nobody can use the "injury" excuse anymore. 


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Posted 29 July 2014 - 06:24 AM

The problem with placing all our hopes on a healthy team is that it ignores the fact that for the first part of last season we were totally healthy and we still weren't that good.  We were also totally healthy for the 4 post seasons before last year.  Same results though. 

 

Like everyone else, I'd obviously prefer we were healthy rather than not.  But a lot of people are going to be very disappointed when they realize that we can make all the excuses we want, but there are a lot of holes in our team that didn't get solved in the offseason, and won't be solved by Datsyuk staying healthy. 

 

We've got an undersized, perimeter, team that can't play in the crease.  We don't have a single top flight player in his prime.  We've got a defense that can't move the puck efficiently. We've got horrible special teams.  And we've got an offensive scheme that hasn't yielded quality results in 5 years. 

 

Obviously, I'd love to be wrong.  The best case scenario is that we get healthy and win a Cup.  But I'm not holding my breath.  Second best scenario?  Get healthy and struggle just as much as we did a year ago.  At least that way nobody can use the "injury" excuse anymore. 

We weren't that good to start the season cause our healthy players included plugs like Sammy and Cleary and a lame, regressed Kindl with Tatar in the press box and Nyquist in the minors.

 

Undersized perimeter crap will be solved with developing guys like Jurco and Mantha to go to the dirty areas and bury goals.


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Posted 29 July 2014 - 06:55 AM

I predict Holland trades for Pronger. We really need some help on the back end.

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Posted 29 July 2014 - 08:03 AM

We weren't that good to start the season cause our healthy players included plugs like Sammy and Cleary and a lame, regressed Kindl with Tatar in the press box and Nyquist in the minors.

 

Undersized perimeter crap will be solved with developing guys like Jurco and Mantha to go to the dirty areas and bury goals.

 

Not from Grand Rapids they won't.

 

Also, how can you honestly blame our bad start at the beginning of last season on lame plugs without immediately acknowledging that those same "lame plugs" are mostly still on the team.  We have the same problem we did a year ago.

 

We haven't made it past the second round of the playoffs in half a decade.  You can't blame that all on Sammy, Cleary, and injuries.  And if you do, you're setting yourself up for disappointment. 


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Posted 29 July 2014 - 08:07 AM

We will scrape into the playoffs again and lose in the first round, count on it.



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Posted 29 July 2014 - 08:26 AM

We will win the Stanley Cup!





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