nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted February 15, 2015 Bit of a surprise but I agree the price was too steep for what he'd bring to the Wings, and I concur it would have been even steeper for the Wings. He's a good fit for the Preda, though. Looks like they're planning to make a serious run in the postseason. Overall, the Leafs got fleeced, though. If that continues, after their fire sale, it could be really ugly for the white and blue. Would of been a 1st and pulkkinen I'm guessing My guess is Jeff Petry Ya depending the price could be but im sure other teams will target petry as well now which will really rise up the asking price 1 RedWang reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheXym 2,606 Report post Posted February 15, 2015 Would of been a 1st and pulkkinen I'm guessing The first would have been too high, let alone sending Pulkamania to run wild in Toronto. Then again, they'd probably sign him to a Kessel-like contract after he unleashes the Holy Slapper for an NHL goal in this home rink. 1 jimmyemeryhunter reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PavelValerievichDatsyuk 1,935 Report post Posted February 15, 2015 Marchenko or Ouellet will take the final spot for playoff time. Listening to Holland's recent interviews I really don't think we're doing much. Green is still available, but Washington is in a Wildcard spot so I don't see them trading him. Also, we're just 4 pts. ahead of them so I don't know why they'd want to help us out. I'm fine without a trade now. Adding the RH Dman was supposed to help our PP and our get our offence going. Our PP is #1 and our offence has been doing well. With Marchenko we have a viable RH shot on D and having him seems to have helped Smith. I just hope we find a taker for Kindl at the deadline. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted February 15, 2015 This is franson right now with all the leafs behind him. Not really. Players want to play in Toronto, regardless of how bad they are. It's a huge city and the biggest hockey market in the world. Nashville is the furthest thing from that. Yeah, there's less pressure in Nashville and they're a better team, but come on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e_prime 1,936 Report post Posted February 15, 2015 Hmmm... Would I want to play for a team that's playoff bound for years to come... Or a team that's in "scorched Earth" mode? 2 FireCaptain and Internet.Unknown reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted February 15, 2015 Why would you trade for Zid when you can sign Chelios - almost about the same age. Petry is RH version of Quincey, why would you trade 2nd rounder and a prospect for 5th-6th def? If we can end up with Yandle (yes he's LHD but can play on both sides) and get rid of one Def (Big E, Quincey or Kindl), 1st rounder (2016) with some prospects not named Mantha/Larkin I would go for it. Otherwise, wait for the FA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yztheman 29 Report post Posted February 15, 2015 The NHL.com story : http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=753458 pointed out Nashville drafted Franson and Santorelli so it was a shoe fits kind of thing Not even speculating about an acquisition two things are certain (1) Howard sucks in shootouts and (2) we like our team Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PavelValerievichDatsyuk 1,935 Report post Posted February 15, 2015 Not really. Players want to play in Toronto, regardless of how bad they are. It's a huge city and the biggest hockey market in the world. Nashville is the furthest thing from that. Yeah, there's less pressure in Nashville and they're a better team, but come on. That's why free agents flock there. Oh, wait... 2 krsmith17 and e_prime reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
martinezsvsu 240 Report post Posted February 15, 2015 first off, F rentals second, i dont think hes the missing piece that will make us win the cup this year. good for the preds and leafs though, preds got better and are looking to make a serious run for the cup this year and the leafs are a mess so they got a first rounder for a player that was leaving this off season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlashyG 1,799 Report post Posted February 15, 2015 (edited) Personally I think Toronto got the better of this deal. Franson and Santorelli were leaving anyways at the end of the season and they got a 1st, a prospect and another player they are going to flip before the deadline. I'm glad the Wings passed on Franson, having seen a lot of Leafs games here in Toronto, Franson turns the puck over more frequently than Ericsson. I don't think its a bad trade for Nashville either though, they get 2 pieces they can definitely use as part of a run. Edited February 15, 2015 by FlashyG Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted February 15, 2015 That's why free agents flock there. Oh, wait... Yeah, they all go to Nashville. Oh wait.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted February 15, 2015 Haha typical LGW. We didn't land him, so... we didn't even want him... Franson is garbage, not worth the asking price... 2 GMRwings1983 and kipwinger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlashyG 1,799 Report post Posted February 15, 2015 Haha typical LGW. We didn't land him, so... we didn't even want him... Franson is garbage, not worth the asking price... At no point have I ever in any way supported the idea of pursuing Franson at any cost. Had we landed him for a first I would have been first in line to criticize the terrible trade. We already made the overpaying for a rental mistake last season, this is the same thing but at a greater cost. 2 derblaueClaus and GoWings1905 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nawein 324 Report post Posted February 15, 2015 I don't think, at this point, you can say who won and who lost. They both flipped pieces they didn't want/need/weren't in the long term plans for pieces that they did need or want. Good deal for both sides when you consider where the teams are right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted February 15, 2015 Haha typical LGW. We didn't land him, so... we didn't even want him... Franson is garbage, not worth the asking price... I would of taken him but not at any price ... With what Nashville gave up what do you think we would of had to give to get him? A 1st rounder and who? I personally want to keep our 1st round pick unless we got a top 4d who was locked up for a few more years Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted February 15, 2015 Where is this "at any cost" coming from? Obviously I wouldn't have given up the farm for him, but we could have easily beaten out the Preds in that trade, without giving up too much. No, a first round pick isn't ideal but I think we could have given up a second and a better prospect and got the deal done. I just find it hilarious how people come on here saying, he isn't the player we needed. If he isn't the type of defenseman this team needs, then that player doesn't exist. Of all the players available (taking cost into account) he absolutely was the best fit for this team. But yeah, keep talking about Yandle... Not going to happen, nor should it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted February 15, 2015 Hey, didn't we trade a 1st for Kyle Quincey? Holland does overpay. Just for the wrong guys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoWings1905 2,694 Report post Posted February 15, 2015 Where is this "at any cost" coming from? Obviously I wouldn't have given up the farm for him, but we could have easily beaten out the Preds in that trade, without giving up too much. No, a first round pick isn't ideal but I think we could have given up a second and a better prospect and got the deal done. I just find it hilarious how people come on here saying, he isn't the player we needed. If he isn't the type of defenseman this team needs, then that player doesn't exist. Of all the players available (taking cost into account) he absolutely was the best fit for this team. But yeah, keep talking about Yandle... Not going to happen, nor should it... Yandle probably won't happen because Holland won't have the guts to pay the price, but Franson isn't anything special. Big and right-handed are the only reasons he made sense at all. Not to mention, Franson could walk this summer. I'm thrilled Holland didn't overpay for Franson. The Wings not getting him doesn't change my stance whatsoever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fonzarelli 73 Report post Posted February 15, 2015 That was one stupid deal by Toronto. The fans should be irate. This is not a rebuild.It's a demolition. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightfall 871 Report post Posted February 15, 2015 (edited) I don't think Franson is worth a 1st. He is like Legwand last year, a pending UFA. I would rather keep our 1st, especially this year when the draft is INCREDIBLY deep. Edited February 15, 2015 by Nightfall 1 nyqvististhefuture reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted February 15, 2015 Where is this "at any cost" coming from? Obviously I wouldn't have given up the farm for him, but we could have easily beaten out the Preds in that trade, without giving up too much. No, a first round pick isn't ideal but I think we could have given up a second and a better prospect and got the deal done. I just find it hilarious how people come on here saying, he isn't the player we needed. If he isn't the type of defenseman this team needs, then that player doesn't exist. Of all the players available (taking cost into account) he absolutely was the best fit for this team. But yeah, keep talking about Yandle... Not going to happen, nor should it... Um this was about the prospect for the Leafs it was about the first and no the Wings wouldn't have been able to beat this offer given 1 simple fact: the price of trading him to a divisional opponent would have been much higher add to that all that Babcock speculation and well Franson would have cost at least a first and a very solid prospect. Nashville has one heck of a defense now maybe even the best one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightfall 871 Report post Posted February 15, 2015 Yandle probably won't happen because Holland is smart enough to not get fleeced, but Franson isn't anything special. Big and right-handed are the only reasons he made sense at all. Not to mention, Franson could walk this summer. I'm thrilled Holland didn't overpay for Franson. The Wings not getting him doesn't change my stance whatsoever. FIFY Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowings00 545 Report post Posted February 15, 2015 That was one stupid deal by Toronto. The fans should be irate. This is not a rebuild.It's a demolition. Both were UFA and were likely gone by seasons end. There was no way this would have been a bad deal for Toronto. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted February 15, 2015 FIFY Read my post near the top of this page. Holland getting fleeced is nothing new. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoWings1905 2,694 Report post Posted February 15, 2015 FIFY Except Yandle would be worth the price, unlike Quincey and Legwand. You gotta give to get something and Holland has either been reluctant to do so lately in trades or overpaid for low impact pieces. We can either keep lamenting the lack of a puck-moving offensive d-man or pray one actually signs here again next summer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites