rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted June 16, 2015 To tell the truth, I'm happy about this. I don't want a division rival winning the Cup. I didn't want the Stanley Cup in the south, getting gawked at by mildly bemused tourists and local swamp rats. I don't ever want to hear "The Stanley Cup gets a sun tan" ever again. *Puke*. I don't give a crap about "Stevie winning one", because he stopped mattering to me the second he started working for a rival organization. In short, NOTHING about Tampa winning the Cup would have felt good to me. I don't care about their players, coach, staff, GM, city, or state. Secondly, I don't feel threatened by this. At all. The new Chicago dynasty is (so far) more impressive than our dynasty from 97-08. So what? We still won 4 Cups in 11 years, had top end talent to watch, and made the playoffs every single year. It's still SUPER impressive. Just because the 80's Islanders weren't the 80's Oilers doesn't make them any less awesome. This just put a stamp on something we all already knew. We're no longer the league's model franchise. Oh well, doesn't make our run at the top any less impressive. Amen. I feel the exact same way. 100%. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,756 Report post Posted June 16, 2015 If the Hawks fail to win another cup in 6 years... does that make the Wing's dynasty tops again? Probably. Unless they go to the finals like 5 more times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingedWheel91 271 Report post Posted June 16, 2015 I don't think anyone is saying our run wasn't impressive - but it was much easier to build a championship team in 1997 than it is today. The Chicago Blackhawks (in a hard salary capped system) have gone: 2009 - Conference Finals 2010 - Stanley Cup 2011 - 1st Round 2012 - 1st Round 2013 - Stanley Cup 2014 - Conference Finals 2015 - Stanley Cup During this process, they have also lost players like Havlat, Versteeg, Campbell, Ladd, Bolland, Byfuglien, Barker, Wisniewski, and Stahlberg exclusively from salary cap restrictions. This year, they are going to lose Sharp, Seabrook and potentially Shaw or Saad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted June 16, 2015 I'll take one Seabrook please! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted June 16, 2015 No way, the Hawks lose Seabrook. Not going to happen. 1 kipwinger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingedWheel91 271 Report post Posted June 16, 2015 I meant to say *1 of Sharp and Seabrook, plus potentially Shaw or Saad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rhah 195 Report post Posted June 16, 2015 I still asterisk the shortened season. West didn't play a single East team during the regular season. Althought weren't people claiming West was better than East in those years? Still, playoff seeds may have been different. Plus, seeing a team during regular season has to have some advantage before you meet them in the Finals? Or maybe not, and I am full of gas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ami 273 Report post Posted June 16, 2015 http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/lightning-s-tyler-johnson-calls-broken-wrist--disappointing-041029857.html and that's what is called karma. i bet this ****** broke the same wrist, he was trying to opens Miller's face up with. i hope he survive and will never come that close to the Cup again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mckinley25 679 Report post Posted June 16, 2015 To tell the truth, I'm happy about this. I don't want a division rival winning the Cup. I didn't want the Stanley Cup in the south, getting gawked at by mildly bemused tourists and local swamp rats. I don't ever want to hear "The Stanley Cup gets a sun tan" ever again. *Puke*. I don't give a crap about "Stevie winning one", because he stopped mattering to me the second he started working for a rival organization. In short, NOTHING about Tampa winning the Cup would have felt good to me. I don't care about their players, coach, staff, GM, city, or state. Secondly, I don't feel threatened by this. At all. The new Chicago dynasty is (so far) more impressive than our dynasty from 97-08. So what? We still won 4 Cups in 11 years, had top end talent to watch, and made the playoffs every single year. It's still SUPER impressive. Just because the 80's Islanders weren't the 80's Oilers doesn't make them any less awesome. This just put a stamp on something we all already knew. We're no longer the league's model franchise. Oh well, doesn't make our run at the top any less impressive. I look at it like this; its a tremendous amount of fun to have the team you root for win the cup. Chicago fans have enjoyed that a lot, just like us, if we don't win it I always want a team that hasn't won it to have that experience. Tampa wasn't ideal, but preferable to Chicago. I'm also not in a place to make sweeping judgements about fan bases, every town has wonderful fans, and children who want to see their team win. It's greedy for me to want Detroit to win every year, but I'm a flawed human being. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ami 273 Report post Posted June 16, 2015 (edited) ... It's greedy for me to want Detroit to win every year, but I'm a flawed human being. No, it is not. It would be very weird and flawed if you feel otherwise - like "give them all the Cup in rotation for participation, let them feel it! Edited June 16, 2015 by ami Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mckinley25 679 Report post Posted June 16, 2015 No, it is not. It would be very weird and flawed if you feel otherwise - like "give them all the Cup in rotation for participation, let them feel it! Well I don't want a rotation, I just want other teams to win naturally, I can certainly say that Chicago deserved to win the cup, and that's how it should be, I just wish teams like St. Louis and Washington had been able to put together championship teams for their fans. 1 Jericho613 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,756 Report post Posted June 16, 2015 (edited) This is awesome. This is Joel Quenneville's house. This is how nuts people went for the Cup last night. Edited June 16, 2015 by kipwinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,803 Report post Posted June 16, 2015 This is awesome. This is Joel Quenneville's house. This is how nuts people went for the Cup last night. I'd like to personally s*** on the lawns of every Hawks player. 1 Detroit \# 1 Fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jericho613 74 Report post Posted June 16, 2015 I'll be more impressed if they win another cup with the huge contracts coming on the boards from Toews and Kane. They are favored to win the cup again next year but they won't. I look for teams to come in and pick at a few of their restricted free agents like vultures cuz they know the hawks are gonna be hard pressed against the cap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted June 16, 2015 Their core is set and not going anywhere, ithey'll lose guys like Bickell, Richards and Sharp and Oduya. But with Teravainen and Rielly - if he decides to sign with the Hawks - they'll again lessen the blow I don't think Chicago will win it again next year, Kings will come out reenergized and will for sure go for it. Tampa will be even better and more experienced and never count out Rangers with as long as they have King Henrik in net. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,756 Report post Posted June 16, 2015 "King Henrik" is about as intimidating as a pair of dress socks. Guy can't get it done in the playoffs. I'll count him out for next season right now. He is overblown. 2 GoWings! and GMRwings1983 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted June 16, 2015 Keith lost me with his mocking of Backes coming to after being knocked out last year. 2 Hockeymom1960 and BottleOfSmoke reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmyemeryhunter 2,747 Report post Posted June 16, 2015 Keith lost me with his mocking of Backes coming to after being knocked out last year.He's an amazing player, but that was really, really sh**ty... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bully76 34 Report post Posted June 17, 2015 Please somebody in the Western Conf just eliminate these pricks early next year so I don't have to see Patrick ******* Kane hoist the cup again and listen to casual Hawks fans in my neck of the woods chirping about their "dynasty." Better yet, please, Wings, just go to the finals next year and beat these pricks yourselves. I can dream. 1 Detroit \# 1 Fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,756 Report post Posted June 17, 2015 What happened to all the "Victor Hedman is the next big thing" talk? After game three people were talking about how he was "elite" and a "Conn Smythe" front runner. Then, suddenly, all the Hedman chatter just kinda disappeared. Odd. Almost like the hockey media was manufacturing a narrative to sell the Lightening, while they were leading the series, before giving up on it. Almost. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted June 17, 2015 (edited) What happened to all the "Victor Hedman is the next big thing" talk? After game three people were talking about how he was "elite" and a "Conn Smythe" front runner. Then, suddenly, all the Hedman chatter just kinda disappeared. Odd. Almost like the hockey media was manufacturing a narrative to sell the Lightening, while they were leading the series, before giving up on it. Almost. It's amazing what 1 or 2 stretch passes in the finals can do for your career. Edited June 17, 2015 by number9 2 amato and kipwinger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted June 17, 2015 Keith lost me with his mocking of Backes coming to after being knocked out last year. Agreed. Keith is a great defenseman but he makes Backes look like a choirboy. I have no idea why he doesn't have more of a rep for his cheapshots, stickwork, and then chirping a guy who's clearly concussed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted June 17, 2015 "King Henrik" is about as intimidating as a pair of dress socks. Guy can't get it done in the playoffs. I'll count him out for next season right now. He is overblown. False. The team in front of him can never get in done in the playoffs. It isn't his job to score goals. 4 haroldsnepsts, Hockeymom1960, GoWings1905 and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted June 17, 2015 False. The team in front of him can never get in done in the playoffs. It isn't his job to score goals. Their problem has always been center depth. Stacked at G. Stacked at D. Nash and company at wing (even though Nash choked). To me Brassard and Stepan are both great 2nd line centers. But they're going to compare to the Datsyuks, Toews, Kopitars, and Stamkos's of this league. 3 marcaractac, haroldsnepsts and GoWings1905 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted June 17, 2015 Their problem has always been center depth. Stacked at G. Stacked at D. Nash and company at wing (even though Nash choked). To me Brassard and Stepan are both great 2nd line centers. But they're going to compare to the Datsyuks, Toews, Kopitars, and Stamkos's of this league. 100% agree with this. It just annoys me when people say things along the lines of Henrik being unable to get the job done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
