Jeff Blashill

[Wheelchairsuperhero 1,453]

22 minutes ago, NerveDamage said:

Ott is gonna be centering that 4st line... omg

that crazy Blash making some...

 

 

Please tell me the st part of 4st is the typo, and you aren't saying Ott will be centering the 1st.

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3 minutes ago, Wheelchairsuperhero said:

Please tell me the st part of 4st is the typo, and you aren't saying Ott will be centering the 1st.

it was on purpose since on the olympia chat we call the 3rd period the 4rd or 4st in some cases. It would be scary to see Blash put him in the top line, not impossible though...

[krsmith17 7,191]

14 minutes ago, Jonas Mahonas said:

I see what you are saying, but I'm of the opinion that our defense is NOT performing well.  Just a different view is all.

Do you really think Russo is going to help the defense enough that it's worth losing another defenseman for nothing? Our defense has not been good enough. A trade needs to be made to bring in a top 2 defenseman, not bring up a player just for the sake of "a different view"...

[wings_fanatic 677]

Do we need more proof thay blashill sucks?

Mrazek has always played well against washington. Double standard. Howard got to play against the rangers because of his history but now mrazek doesnt get to play against Washington? It could have been a great opportunity for confidence.

In addition he scratches smith instead of dekeyser or ericsson or marchenko...what a joke.

O and glendening on the 2nd line.

Fire him!!!

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17 minutes ago, Jonas Mahonas said:

He seems to be helping the Griffs A LOT.  If it were average performance down there, I'd give it zero thought.  but it's exceptional stats in both ends.  I'm more from the school of rewarding performance.

He's far and away the Griffins best defenseman right now, but I wouldn't consider 7 points in 13 games in the minors to be worth waiving a player like Ouellet. With the log jam of mediocre defensemen on this team, I'd be shocked if he even made the team next year. He's still waiver exempt next season, so unless he steals a spot outright from someone in the top 6, Kronwall or someone ends up on LTIR, or there is a trade made, he'll remain down in Grand Rapids...

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25 minutes ago, Jonas Mahonas said:

Your argument is sound.  I agree 100% from a cap management perspective.  But would you rather have him in our line up from a personal perspective?  

Not really, no. Like I said, I don't think he's better than anyone on the current roster right now, other than maybe Marchenko, and if Marchy's coming out (he should), I'd rather see Ouellet get another shot than Russo at this point. I believe Russo is going to be a solid NHLer in a year or two, but there's really no need to rush him at this point...

Besides, if we're truly talking about MY personal perspective... I watch a lot of Griffins games and with Athanasiou, Mantha and Bertuzzi all on the Wings roster right now, Russo is one of the few bright spots on that roster... Svechnikov, Frk, Russo and Hicketts are the only reasons I still watch the games...

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3 minutes ago, krsmith17 said:

Not really, no. Like I said, I don't think he's better than anyone on the current roster right now, other than maybe Marchenko, and if Marchy's coming out (he should), I'd rather see Ouellet get another shot than Russo at this point. I believe Russo is going to be a solid NHLer in a year or two, but there's really no need to rush him at this point...

Besides, if we're truly talking about MY personal perspective... I watch a lot of Griffins games and with Athanasiou, Mantha and Bertuzzi all on the Wings roster right now, Russo is one of the few bright spots on that roster... Svechnikov, Frk, Russo and Hicketts are the only reasons I still watch the games...

Out of curiosity as you obviously watch a lot of the GR games....In your opinion, what is Russo's ceiling in comparison to Marchenko/Sproul/XO? I've never actually seen him play before, but I am reading a lot of good things about him and am excited to see him up here when the time is right.

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30 minutes ago, kliq said:

Out of curiosity as you obviously watch a lot of the GR games....In your opinion, what is Russo's ceiling in comparison to Marchenko/Sproul/XO? I've never actually seen him play before, but I am reading a lot of good things about him and am excited to see him up here when the time is right.

I see him developing into a solid top four defenseman, in the mold of a Jack Johnson / Matt Niskanen type. Not the strongest skater, but rarely gets caught out of position because of his high hockey IQ. Strong in all three zones, and just solid all around player. Nothing in particular stands out as a huge strength when watching him, but doesn't really have any glaring weaknesses either. In comparison to Marchenko / Sproul / Ouellet, I think his style of game compares closest to Ouellet, though I think he has a higher ceiling than XO. I've always said and still maintain that Sproul could become a solid number 2 / 3, and Marchenko is a bottom pair guy at best. Just my opinion though...

[Fonzarelli 73]

An interesting comment from Zetterberg. He stated the wings play well when they aren't stubborn. What does he mean? I take it as meaning that some/many players are not buying into Blashill's system ( if there is one). I think this a a silent revolution.

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9 hours ago, wings_fanatic said:

Do we need more proof thay blashill sucks?

Mrazek has always played well against washington. Double standard. Howard got to play against the rangers because of his history but now mrazek doesnt get to play against Washington? It could have been a great opportunity for confidence.

In addition he scratches smith instead of dekeyser or ericsson or marchenko...what a joke.

O and glendening on the 2nd line.

Fire him!!!

Doesn't Ovi always light Howard up, since like World Jr. I know he lights up a lot of people, but I'm pretty sure Howard is more so than the norm. 

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4 hours ago, xault said:

Doesn't Ovi always light Howard up, since like World Jr. I know he lights up a lot of people, but I'm pretty sure Howard is more so than the norm. 

 

I believe this might be correct. Mrazek has also been known to own Ovi. But this decision to start Howard vs the caps goes to further show that Blash is full of s***. 

[NerveDamage 4,176]

lol, so true

 

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11 hours ago, marcaractac said:

I believe this might be correct. Mrazek has also been known to own Ovi. But this decision to start Howard vs the caps goes to further show that Blash is full of s***. 

We need a win, Howard has been the better of the two. I'm okay with this logic at the moment.

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Hate Blashill's interviews. Just spouting random cliche after cliche. Babs was the best. Blunt and to the point

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Just now, joesuffP said:

Hate Blashill's interviews. Just spouting random cliche after cliche. Babs was the best. Blunt and to the point

To be fair, Babs has dealt with national media since the early 2000's, while Blashill just got his first taste last year. I try not to put too much stock into the way a coach deals with media as at the end of the day what I care about is wins and getting the most out of your players. Now with that being said, it's not like Blashill is winning many over in that department either.

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Really haven't been a fan of Blashill.  This team is not as bad as their record indicates.  When Babcock left there was no Green (or any righthanded balance on defense), no Larkin, Tatar and Nyquist were still kids and not close to their prime ages, Weiss was still on the team, etc.  The roster we have now should not be playing this poorly, especially against a Washington team that only had 9 forwards.  I'm ready for a new coach.

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43 minutes ago, Echolalia said:

Really haven't been a fan of Blashill.  This team is not as bad as their record indicates.  When Babcock left there was no Green (or any righthanded balance on defense), no Larkin, Tatar and Nyquist were still kids and not close to their prime ages, Weiss was still on the team, etc.  The roster we have now should not be playing this poorly, especially against a Washington team that only had 9 forwards.  I'm ready for a new coach.

I agree. But Babcock also had Datsyuk and Zetterberg still playing like top players. And having 2 superstars could trump having an entire roster of above average players imo. 

Not a fan of Blash either but unfortunately for him he doesn't have a superstar player to bail him out. Some of these games are so close that having that one guy on offense or even defense could make all the difference. 

Edited November 20, 2016 by kickazz

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18 minutes ago, kickazz said:

I agree. But Babcock also had Datsyuk and Zetterberg still playing like top players. And having 2 superstars could trump having an entire roster of above average players imo. 

Not a fan of Blash either but unfortunately for him he doesn't have a superstar player to bail him out. Some of these games are so close that having that one guy on offense or even defense could make all the difference. 

 

Babcock dragged this team into the playoffs when Dats and Hank were both out at the same time for a stretch. Hell, there was a stretch where every single center was injured, hence the Legwand trade. 

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I think it's safe to say that losing Babs hurt. Change isnt always a good thing.

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15 minutes ago, marcaractac said:

Babcock dragged this team into the playoffs when Dats and Hank were both out at the same time for a stretch. Hell, there was a stretch where every single center was injured, hence the Legwand trade. 

I mean it's basically the same isn't it? 2014 we lost Dats and Hank to injury and we barely scratch into playoffs as 8th seed. Last year we end up in 8th seed with older and non superstar version of Dats and Z. 

This team rode on Dats, Zet and Lidstrom. We don't have those guys anymore. That's what it mostly comes down to. We don't have a superstar on this team. No coach is going to turn us into a top seeded team. Not even Babcock could. 

Of course by no means am I saying Blash = Babcock. All I'm saying is, a superstar would probably make a huge difference for us regardless of the coach. 

Babcock could probably win us a few more games than Blash does. He might get us to game 7 against Tampa Bay instead of game 5 elimination. Maybe he gets us to round 2. But ultimately, we still wouldn't make it far. 

Edited November 20, 2016 by kickazz

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2 minutes ago, kickazz said:

I mean it's basically the same isn't it? 2014 we lost Dats and Hank to injury and we barely scratch into playoffs as 8th seed. Last year we end up in 8th seed with older and non superstar version of Dats and Z. 

This team rode on Dats, Zet and Lidstrom. We don't have those guys anymore. That's what it mostly comes down to. We don't have a superstar on this team. No coach is going to turn us into a top seeded team. Not even Babcock could. 

Of course by no means am I saying Blash = Babcock. All I'm saying is, a superstar would probably make a huge difference for us regardless of the coach. 

I agree with all of this. My biggest issue is the regression of pretty much every player on our roster last year. I think it was you kickazz who posted at some point last season that almost every player had something like a 15% regression. I cant see that being due to anything but coaching.

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5 minutes ago, kickazz said:

I mean it's basically the same isn't it? 2014 we lost Dats and Hank to injury and we barely scratch into playoffs as 8th seed. Last year we end up in 8th seed with older and non superstar version of Dats and Z. 

This team rode on Dats, Zet and Lidstrom. We don't have those guys anymore. That's what it mostly comes down to. We don't have a superstar on this team. No coach is going to turn us into a top seeded team. Not even Babcock could. 

Of course by no means am I saying Blash = Babcock. All I'm saying is, a superstar would probably make a huge difference for us regardless of the coach. 

Babcock could probably win us a few more games than Blash does. He might get us to game 7 against Tampa Bay instead of game 5 elimination. Maybe he gets us to round 2. But ultimately, we still wouldn't make it far. 

 

Basically what i am saying is that this roster hasn't been good for a while. And if not for babs, this streak likely would have ended 3-4 years ago. I'd go as far as to say the Wings would be a better team right now if that were the case. This is why losing this season doesn't stress me out like it would have even last year. I realize it needs to happen. I just wish the team would do it with the kids so they can be better for it next year. 

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Yeah, it was me. Players regressed last year and Blash is to blame for sure. But looking at this year so far, it's becoming painfully obvious that we're lacking star power. Nyquist is scoring at a similar rate he did under Babcock again. Green , Helm, Glendening, Vanek (before injury) doing better that last year.But Larkin Tatar, Abby not doing so well. AA around the same. Small sample size so far so take it with a grain of salt. Howard also doing much better 

So overall a good amount of players are doing better this year it seems although a couple have regressed. 

Edited November 20, 2016 by kickazz

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3 minutes ago, marcaractac said:

Basically what i am saying is that this roster hasn't been good for a while. And if not for babs, this streak likely would have ended 3-4 years ago. I'd go as far as to say the Wings would be a better team right now if that were the case. This is why losing this season doesn't stress me out like it would have even last year. I realize it needs to happen. I just wish the team would do it with the kids so they can be better for it next year. 

One thing I like is we could theoretically miss the playoffs by 1 point and win the draft lottery. I'm sick of teams that tank or simply suck (Edmonton) being rewarded. I like this new system, too bad it didnt come into play the year McDavid was drafted as Edmonton didn't deserve him.

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3 minutes ago, kliq said:

One thing I like is we could theoretically miss the playoffs by 1 point and win the draft lottery. I'm sick of teams that tank or simply suck (Edmonton) being rewarded. I like this new system, too bad it didnt come into play the year McDavid was drafted as Edmonton didn't deserve him.

Man the winning chance is still low tho 

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I mean I say there's no star power but that doesn't mean AA, Mantha, Larkin don't become the star power in the next couple years. I said this a lot last year too. We're in limbo. Our superstar is too old and our youngsters are too young. 

Edited November 20, 2016 by kickazz