ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted August 21, 2018 8 hours ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said: He's lazy and he sucks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted August 21, 2018 17 hours ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: Calgary Acquires Kerby Rychel From Montreal, Habs Get Hunter Shinkaruk In Return Bergevin sure does love him some lateral-at-best swaps. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted August 21, 2018 2 hours ago, Dabura said: Bergevin sure does love him some lateral-at-best swaps. He's lazy and he sucks 1 Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted August 23, 2018 "We didn't know he was a center" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,015 Report post Posted August 23, 2018 NEWS The Athletic Ranks Detroit as 7th Best Prospect System (paywall) Breakdown of Pronman's Prospect Rankings: Elite Propect: 1. Zadina Very Good Prospects: 2. Veleno 3. Rasmussen Legit Propects: 4. Hronek 5. Berggren Have a Chance Prospects: 6. Cholowski 7. Svechnikov 8. McIssac 9. Saarijarvi 10. Hicketts Depth Notes 11. Larsson 12. Sulak 13. Lindstrom 14. Regula 15. Holmsrtom 16. Van Pottelberghe 17. Kotkansalo 18. Petruzelli Organizational Top 10 (under 23) 1. Larkin 2. Zadina 3. Mantha 4. Veleno 5. Rasmussen 6. Hronek 7. Berggren 8. Bertuzzi 9. Cholowski 10. Svechnikov He had them ranked 24th last year when he worked for ESPN. Another shart year and good draft and this team will be stacked. 1 1 Dabura and krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted August 23, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, The 91 of Ryans said: NEWS The Athletic Ranks Detroit as 7th Best Prospect System (paywall) Breakdown of Pronman's Prospect Rankings: Elite Propect: 1. Zadina Very Good Prospects: 2. Veleno 3. Rasmussen Legit Propects: 4. Hronek 5. Berggren Have a Chance Prospects: 6. Cholowski 7. Svechnikov 8. McIssac 9. Saarijarvi 10. Hicketts Depth Notes 11. Larsson 12. Sulak 13. Lindstrom 14. Regula 15. Holmsrtom 16. Van Pottelberghe 17. Kotkansalo 18. Petruzelli Organizational Top 10 (under 23) 1. Larkin 2. Zadina 3. Mantha 4. Veleno 5. Rasmussen 6. Hronek 7. Berggren 8. Bertuzzi 9. Cholowski 10. Svechnikov He had them ranked 24th last year when he worked for ESPN. Another shart year and good draft and this team will be stacked. We definitely added to the top end of our draft pool What do I need to know about this Berggren kid? He's getting awfully high rankings. All I remember is him being compared to Nyquist Edited August 23, 2018 by ChristopherReevesLegs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,015 Report post Posted August 23, 2018 17 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: We definitely added to the top end of our draft pool What do I need to know about this Berggren kid? He's getting awfully high rankings. All I remember is him being compared to Nyquist I duuno. He can motor I guess? Victor Arvidsson was the comparison I heard made. But yeah, similar to Nyquist. Except they were both 4th rounders so this kid better be better than those guys!!!!! 2 ChristopherReevesLegs and krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xault 272 Report post Posted August 23, 2018 57 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: We definitely added to the top end of our draft pool What do I need to know about this Berggren kid? He's getting awfully high rankings. All I remember is him being compared to Nyquist Which version of Nyquist? 2013-2015 or the last 3 seasons? I think I would be ok with earlier Nyquist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted August 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, xault said: Which version of Nyquist? 2013-2015 or the last 3 seasons? I think I would be ok with earlier Nyquist. Almost-30-goal Nyquist is the best Nyquist Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,015 Report post Posted August 23, 2018 Just now, ChristopherReevesLegs said: Almost-30-goal Nyquist is the best Nyquist Basically what Arvidsson has been for the past two seasons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtlantaHotWings 992 Report post Posted August 23, 2018 50% of the top 10 are DEFENSE waaay better than I expected in a prospect evaluation 1. Zadina Very Good Prospects: 2. Veleno 3. Rasmussen Legit Propects: 4. Hronek 5. Berggren Have a Chance Prospects: 6. Cholowski 7. Svechnikov 8. McIssac 9. Saarijarvi 10. Hicketts ===================== Drops to 20% when you include the big club guys 1. Larkin 2. Zadina 3. Mantha 4. Veleno 5. Rasmussen 6. Hronek 7. Berggren 8. Bertuzzi 9. Cholowski 10. Svechnikov Find it interesting Hronek is rated above Bert Not sure I dig that not a single goalie was have a chance or legit. But hey everyone has a an opinion and hoping one of the goalies becomes a chance...LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,015 Report post Posted August 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, AtlantaHotWings said: 50% of the top 10 are DEFENSE waaay better than I expected in a prospect evaluation 1. Zadina Very Good Prospects: 2. Veleno 3. Rasmussen Legit Propects: 4. Hronek 5. Berggren Have a Chance Prospects: 6. Cholowski 7. Svechnikov 8. McIssac 9. Saarijarvi 10. Hicketts ===================== Drops to 20% when you include the big club guys 1. Larkin 2. Zadina 3. Mantha 4. Veleno 5. Rasmussen 6. Hronek 7. Berggren 8. Bertuzzi 9. Cholowski 10. Svechnikov Find it interesting Hronek is rated above Bert Not sure I dig that not a single goalie was have a chance or legit. But hey everyone has a an opinion and hoping one of the goalies becomes a chance...LOL Meh. Goalies are tough to project. Just keep drafting them. Sooner or later one or two will have to pan out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheXym 2,606 Report post Posted August 25, 2018 (edited) Pronman himself says he is VERY conservative with how he projects goalies. The guy definitely puts in his research time, imho. A clarification for what he means by has a chance: Have a chance: Probably not an impact guy but could play in the league and has the toolkit to have an outside chance to be a real player. Have a chance refers to probability to be a good player, not his probability to play NHL games. From his explanation article: I value goalie prospects very conservatively. In the past 10 years or so, I’ve only rated one goalie who I thought would be a top-tier player (Andrei Vasilevskiy) and only a handful who I’d project to be a starting goalie in the NHL. FWIW, I am really digging the NHL coverage in the Athletic. Edited August 25, 2018 by TheXym 2 ChristopherReevesLegs and krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted August 26, 2018 1 Neomaxizoomdweebie reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted August 26, 2018 5 hours ago, Dabura said: I'm an Eliasson guy now. f*** Filip Larsson. 1 Neomaxizoomdweebie reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wheelchairsuperhero 1,453 Report post Posted August 26, 2018 (edited) Larkin scoring in the stars and stripes showdown. All-Star game-esque final score, but fun to watch some hockey finally anyway. Edited August 26, 2018 by Wheelchairsuperhero 1 1 krsmith17 and Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wheelchairsuperhero 1,453 Report post Posted August 26, 2018 (edited) Edited August 26, 2018 by Wheelchairsuperhero 1 Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted August 26, 2018 The Zetterberg thing is very odd. He may start the season, but if he does miss the start of the season, he is likely out the entire year? Why is the start of the season the marker for whether or not he can play at all? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted August 27, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, kliq said: The Zetterberg thing is very odd. He may start the season, but if he does miss the start of the season, he is likely out the entire year? Why is the start of the season the marker for whether or not he can play at all? He has to pass the physical test the players are given to start the season. Supposedly he could not even bend down to tie his skates the 2nd half of the season last year. I'm assuming he'll fail the test. But they are projecting if he can't even train in the 4-5 months he's had off (he's been unable to train much); he'll likely be unable to ever really train at the level he once did again. Edited August 27, 2018 by kickazz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted August 27, 2018 2 hours ago, kickazz said: He has to pass the physical test the players are given to start the season. Supposedly he could not even bend down to tie his skates the 2nd half of the season last year. I'm assuming he'll fail the test. But they are projecting if he can't even train in the 4-5 months he's had off (he's been unable to train much); he'll likely be unable to ever really train at the level he once did again. Pretty much. After I wrote what I did, I read that Z wont be able to play without his offseason training program. So I guess that is the reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted August 27, 2018 IMO 3rd line center is a pretty big responsibility for AA. It's the exact opposite of what he's shown so far. If he can rise to the occasion we will be in good shape. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted August 27, 2018 18 minutes ago, Jonas Mahonas said: Put Vanek and Zadina with him, he will light it up. On the offensive side of the puck is where I trust all three of these players. on defense I do not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,015 Report post Posted August 27, 2018 7 hours ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: On the offensive side of the puck is where I trust all three of these players. on defense I do not. I think Zadina's going to be a 200 ft player eventually. Vanek is what he is and I have no hope AA will ever be anything more that a cherry-picker. 1 ChristopherReevesLegs reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,477 Report post Posted August 27, 2018 9 hours ago, Jonas Mahonas said: Why can he play golf? You bend down hundreds of times, turn left and right, and reach for things all the time playing golf. Stupid to even talk about his back at this point. He just doesn't want to play hockey. He wants to play golf. Just stop. 1 Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites