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Like getting bowey but does this pretty much mean game over for joe hicketts?sulak? I mean unless we get rid of bodies like ericsson,Daley,green,kronwall(which I’m totally up for ) how can they possibly have a future here with cholowski and hronek coming up next season as well

 

maybe its time to give little joe a look elsewhere ?he had a good junior career so I’m sure we can get a pick for him 

just cant see him having a future in Detroit 

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2 minutes ago, nyqvististhefuture said:

Like getting bowey but does this pretty much mean game over for joe hicketts?sulak? I mean unless we get rid of bodies like ericsson,Daley,green,kronwall(which I’m totally up for ) how can they possibly have a future here with cholowski and hronek coming up next season as well

 

maybe its time to give little joe a look elsewhere ?he had a good junior career so I’m sure we can get a pick for him 

just cant see him having a future in Detroit 

I think the writing's been on the wall for Hicketts for a while now, tbh. Hate to say it, but he's probably a career AHLer. Then again, the same could probably be said of Bowey.

It'll be interesting to see how everything shakes out.

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Just now, Dabura said:

I think the writing's been on the wall for Hicketts for a while now, tbh. Hate to say it, but he's probably a career AHLer. Then again, the same could probably be said of Bowey.

It'll be interesting to see how everything shakes out.

I remember him having some good games when he first came and he hasn’t really had a good look after that since we always favour old fossils on the back end 

I think he can get a pick 5-7 ... might as well ship him to his home town Vancouver 

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1 minute ago, nyqvististhefuture said:

I remember him having some good games when he first came and he hasn’t really had a good look after that since we always favour old fossils on the back end 

I think he can get a pick 5-7 ... might as well ship him to his home town Vancouver 

I think his skating is the one thing that's really working against him. You can be a small defenseman in today's NHL, but it's nearly impossible to be a small defenseman with average-at-best skating, unless you're super-skilled.

Could be a good veteran leader in GR for years to come, like Lashoff. Or we could try to trade him for a late pick. I'd be good with either path.

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5 minutes ago, Dabura said:

I think his skating is the one thing that's really working against him. You can be a small defenseman in today's NHL, but it's nearly impossible to be a small defenseman with average-at-best skating, unless you're super-skilled.

Could be a good veteran leader in GR for years to come, like Lashoff. Or we could try to trade him for a late pick. I'd be good with either path.

Even it’s a 7th I’d rather stockpile as many picks as possible , only way of getting better is having as many shots as possible 

i know jensen was expected but I’m just hoping with adding bowey and the young d’s coming up  in cholowski hronek as well and mcisaac,lindtstrom hopefully not far off we start getting rid of guys like Daley by Monday 

 

and hoping babs keepings nagging dubas and he caves and gives gives us a 2nd for Luke lol

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4 hours ago, kickazz said:

That’s hindsight bias. We gave them up because we didn’t have them and at that point in time we needed them. And we’ll need to reaquire them once we’re contending again. We can’t predict when we’re going to contend or if the picks we acquire will translate to anything. It could take 3 years or 10. Which is why you trade until something falls together. But hanging onto vets and assuming that it’s good to keep them since we’ll be ready for playoffs in a couple years is reaching. Leafs did that for years and never actually got anywhere for a decade. 

Is that allowed? Or is hindsight bias banned by the Social Justice Warriors now too? Does this make me a "Timist"? Or a "Future-phobe"?

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55 minutes ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said:

Is that allowed? Or is hindsight bias banned by the Social Justice Warriors now too? Does this make me a "Timist"? Or a "Future-phobe"?

Weird flex, but ok.

To my original point, it’s a cyclical phase, dump vets, dumb picks. It’s unpredictable and GM’s do what they can. If you stand pat, then GM-ing wouldn’t really exist. 

Tl;dr rebuild isn’t close, trade Nyquist, Jensen.

Edit: Jensen gone.

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1 hour ago, kickazz said:

Weird flex, but ok.

To my original point, it’s a cyclical phase, dump vets, dumb picks. It’s unpredictable and GM’s do what they can. If you stand pat, then GM-ing wouldn’t really exist. 

Tl;dr rebuild isn’t close, trade Nyquist, Jensen.

Edit: Jensen gone.

Are you sure Jensen is gone, or is that what the Social Justice Warriors want you to believe? 

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2 hours ago, nyqvististhefuture said:

B2E9AE0A-B120-492E-BB6B-3C3D05ED7DF0.pngJesus Christ lol forgot about this , nice to know we lost out on vasilevsky cause Babcock loved Meech lmao ... come on babs keep bugging dubas for glendening 

To be fair, we never would have picked a goalie. At worst we missed out on Olli Maatta.

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3 hours ago, Dabura said:

I think his skating is the one thing that's really working against him. You can be a small defenseman in today's NHL, but it's nearly impossible to be a small defenseman with average-at-best skating, unless you're super-skilled.

Could be a good veteran leader in GR for years to come, like Lashoff. Or we could try to trade him for a late pick. I'd be good with either path.

Well, that and the fact that the only thing he ever had going for him to begin with was that he was a really good story.  Being 5'8 or whatever is the only reason he mattered to anyone to begin with, and ironically that's a big reason why he'll never been any good. 

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9 minutes ago, kipwinger said:

Well, that and the fact that the only thing he ever had going for him to begin with was that he was a really good story.  Being 5'8 or whatever is the only reason he mattered to anyone to begin with, and ironically that's a big reason why he'll never been any good. 

He's a pretty good player, just not a solid NHL defenseman. Given that he didn't even cost us a draft pick (undrafted), I'm perfectly satisfied with him being a Lashoff type, i.e. someone who plays an important role for the Griffins.

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7 hours ago, nyqvististhefuture said:

Off topic but just wondering when can an ncaa hockey player become a free agent if they refuse to sign with their team?? 

Once your over 20 at any time you choose?Last i checked Adam fox hasn’t signed yet, and fabbro is going to be 21 in June 

holding out hope they decide to test free agency and leave 

This is what I found about Justin Schultz from 2012, I'm pretty sure its 4 years as he was drafted in 2008.

Anaheim Ducks drafted the West Kelowna, B.C., native in the second round in 2008 but failed to sign Schultz during a 30-day exclusive negotiating window after he left school and he was declared an unrestricted free agent on Monday.

https://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/nhl-free-agent-justin-schultz-to-pick-his-team-saturday-1.1206491

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