krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted February 23, 2019 10 hours ago, nyqvististhefuture said: Off topic but just wondering when can an ncaa hockey player become a free agent if they refuse to sign with their team?? Once your over 20 at any time you choose?Last i checked Adam fox hasn’t signed yet, and fabbro is going to be 21 in June holding out hope they decide to test free agency and leave Fabbro or Fox would be an amazing get for this team, but I doubt either will just walk when eligible. I would think Poile or Waddell would know whether or not they want to sign before they're eligible to hit free agency. One thing though is that the Preds and Canes have arguable the best d-corps in the league, so they could probably afford to trade them. If I were Holland, these guys would be big targets for me. With Hronek, Cholowski, McIsaac and Bowey all being 23 and under, adding another high-end defenseman in that age range would be huge... Cholowski - Fabbro / Fox DeKeyser - Hronek McIsaac - Bowey Not a bad top six in theory... with the possibility that any of Lindstrom, Regula, Barton, etc. develop into NHLers as well. 3 hours ago, kliq said: This is what I found about Justin Schultz from 2012, I'm pretty sure its 4 years as he was drafted in 2008. Anaheim Ducks drafted the West Kelowna, B.C., native in the second round in 2008 but failed to sign Schultz during a 30-day exclusive negotiating window after he left school and he was declared an unrestricted free agent on Monday. https://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/nhl-free-agent-justin-schultz-to-pick-his-team-saturday-1.1206491 So I guess according to this, Nashville and Carolina would have another full year before they have to make a decision on Fabbro or Fox?... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted February 23, 2019 3 hours ago, kliq said: This is what I found about Justin Schultz from 2012, I'm pretty sure its 4 years as he was drafted in 2008. Anaheim Ducks drafted the West Kelowna, B.C., native in the second round in 2008 but failed to sign Schultz during a 30-day exclusive negotiating window after he left school and he was declared an unrestricted free agent on Monday. https://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/nhl-free-agent-justin-schultz-to-pick-his-team-saturday-1.1206491 Hey thanks a lot man , much appreciated I don’t if it’s 4 or not but looking at Schultz ,fox and fabbro the stats prior to college hockey and college years after Schultz signed are 3 each and fox and fabbro both have the same http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=113177 http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=170098 http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=177791 im guessing if fabbro and fox decided to turn pro in the summer they’d have 30 days to sign or become a ufa? Or maybe this year after they finish playoffs ... maybe I should go bug fox and fabbro on twitter to join the wings haha, Carolina and preds are both stacked at d , anyways hopefully we get lucky with one of them 1 kliq reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted February 23, 2019 (edited) 37 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: Fabbro or Fox would be an amazing get for this team, but I doubt either will just walk when eligible. I would think Poile or Waddell would know whether or not they want to sign before they're eligible to hit free agency. One thing though is that the Preds and Canes have arguable the best d-corps in the league, so they could probably afford to trade them. If I were Holland, these guys would be big targets for me. With Hronek, Cholowski, McIsaac and Bowey all being 23 and under, adding another high-end defenseman in that age range would be huge... Cholowski - Fabbro / Fox DeKeyser - Hronek McIsaac - Bowey Not a bad top six in theory... with the possibility that any of Lindstrom, Regula, Barton, etc. develop into NHLers as well. So I guess according to this, Nashville and Carolina would have another full year before they have to make a decision on Fabbro or Fox?... Well if they want to walk and decide where they want to go they can no? Preds and Carolina can’t force them to sign and they can’t trade them unless they agree to sign to that club which they also can’t control. that what I was thinking maybe those dmen see their clubs situation and think I’m f’n out of here ... and looking at our d situation which is horrible and old and how exciting the forward group is why wouldn’t they think about coming here ? that d is actually pretty solid f*** ... counter with trouba cholowski hronek fabbro bowey mcisaac hoping in 2 years we trade one Michigan boy for another and as exciting as is getting bowey having a crazy d Corp would already possibly make him the 7th guy if all turns out in 2-3 years which would be a good problem to have anywaysss , it’s nice to dream haha if you look at fabbro and Schultz they both played 3 years in bchl and college hockey when Schultz decided so I don’t know if they have to wait another year just noticed fox played 2 yrs not 3 prior to college and is older than fabbro so I don’t know how all this works out , in the end probably means we’d have to trade Edited February 23, 2019 by nyqvististhefuture Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted February 23, 2019 (edited) Kliq was right 4 years after being drafted which means we’d have to wait another year and I know fabbro at least wants to turn pro so it would unfortunately have to be a trade Edited February 23, 2019 by nyqvististhefuture 1 kliq reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted February 23, 2019 14 minutes ago, nyqvististhefuture said: Well if they want to walk and decide where they want to go they can no? Preds and Carolina can’t force them to sign and they can’t trade them unless they agree to sign to that club which they also can’t control. that what I was thinking maybe those dmen see their clubs situation and think I’m f’n out of here ... and looking at our d situation which is horrible and old and how exciting the forward group is why wouldn’t they think about coming here ? ... They can and probably would trade them though. They could trade their rights, the same way you can trade any UFA's negotiating rights when you know they're not going to sign before July 1st. It would likely include some sort of conditional pick. I think either would be thrilled to sign in Detroit, original six team with a long history of winning, starting to build a solid young core, new building, etc. 23 minutes ago, nyqvististhefuture said: trouba hoping in 2 years we trade one Michigan boy for another... Trouba is another player Holland should be targetting for sure. Not sure which "Michigan boy" you're referring to that we could possibly trade for Trouba though... Larkin? Hell no... DeKeyser? Hard no from Cheveldayoff... If we're going to get Trouba, I think it would come through free agency. 1 kliq reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted February 23, 2019 (edited) Scouts at our game last night included the Nashville Predators (2), San Jose Sharks (2), Tampa Bay Lightning (2), New York Islanders, Buffalo Sabres, New Jersey Devils, Pittsburgh Penguins and the Carolina Hurricanes. www.twitter.com/m_bultman/status/1099120796432252934?s=09 Also, we had two scouts at the Vegas and Winnipeg game. Edited February 23, 2019 by amato 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted February 23, 2019 35 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: They can and probably would trade them though. They could trade their rights, the same way you can trade any UFA's negotiating rights when you know they're not going to sign before July 1st. It would likely include some sort of conditional pick. I think either would be thrilled to sign in Detroit, original six team with a long history of winning, starting to build a solid young core, new building, etc. Trouba is another player Holland should be targetting for sure. Not sure which "Michigan boy" you're referring to that we could possibly trade for Trouba though... Larkin? Hell no... DeKeyser? Hard no from Cheveldayoff... If we're going to get Trouba, I think it would come through free agency. Haha no I meant trading dekeyser and replacing him with trouba ... and I meant signing trouba as a ufa as I see no point in signing him this year when he’s available in a season , keep the assets it would cost and add possibly lafraniere next draft , and free trouba it’s a win win all around i been seeing a lot of stuff about the hawks and how they have a bunch of d prospects and no space especially with Keith and seabrook refusing to waive ntc’s and carlsson wasn’t listed in the top 3-4 guys http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=181814 i wonder if he can be had for a 3rd-4th rounder or 4 and 5 since we have 2 5’s although I doubt we’d do this with bowey now added , hronek and cholowski likely next year and then add another soon to be 22 year old but I’d do it , he seems to be having a pretty solid rookie season and we can never have too many d’s 3 minutes ago, amato said: Scouts at our game last night included the Nashville Predators (2), San Jose Sharks (2), Tampa Bay Lightning (2), New York Islanders, Buffalo Sabres, New Jersey Devils, Pittsburgh Penguins and the Carolina Hurricanes. www.twitter.com/m_bultman/status/1099120796432252934?s=09 Also, we had two scouts at the Vegas and Winnipeg game. Ya I saw that I can’t imagine anything we’d be looking at from Vegas and jets , sometimes I think they just send these scouts away on trips to like enjoy life lol. There’s no chance of us getting a roslovic or niku from jets so I don’t know I’m sure some of those Scouts were checking Nyquist for sure but I’m probably naive but hopeful someone like tb/preds might wanna add a daley on the 3rd pair or a pens want to add vanek lets get them picks 2 krsmith17 and amato reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,961 Report post Posted February 23, 2019 48 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: They can and probably would trade them though. They could trade their rights, the same way you can trade any UFA's negotiating rights when you know they're not going to sign before July 1st. It would likely include some sort of conditional pick. I think either would be thrilled to sign in Detroit, original six team with a long history of winning, starting to build a solid young core, new building, etc. Trouba is another player Holland should be targetting for sure. Not sure which "Michigan boy" you're referring to that we could possibly trade for Trouba though... Larkin? Hell no... DeKeyser? Hard no from Cheveldayoff... If we're going to get Trouba, I think it would come through free agency. Cholowski for Trouba. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted February 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, LeftWinger said: Cholowski for Trouba. Nah, I wouldn't do it. 1 nyqvististhefuture reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,961 Report post Posted February 23, 2019 4 hours ago, krsmith17 said: Nah, I wouldn't do it. Ya, I'd rather see if Vancouver would take Rasmussen for Hughes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted February 24, 2019 (edited) It’s picking up ... swear we better get that first for Nyquist f*** , don’t know why rangers did that deal , only hope to land a first if he resigns Edited February 24, 2019 by nyqvististhefuture 1 Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted February 24, 2019 On 2/22/2019 at 5:30 PM, kipwinger said: Are you sure Jensen is gone, or is that what the Social Justice Warriors want you to believe? Nah. Jensen's not a Supreme Court Justice nominee, a Catholic High School student, a MAGA hat wearer, or in law enforcement. No reason for them to make stuff up about him. 1 DickieDunn reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TLGTrico 627 Report post Posted February 24, 2019 I got excited when I read Howard may be going to Carolina, then I saw the source was Eklund. Seriously, why does hockeybuzz even keep posting things that guy reports. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mackel 681 Report post Posted February 24, 2019 37 minutes ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said: Nah. Jensen's not a Supreme Court Justice nominee, a Catholic High School student, a MAGA hat wearer, or in law enforcement. No reason for them to make stuff up about him. Isn't their a rule about political posts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,524 Report post Posted February 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said: Nah. Jensen's not a Supreme Court Justice nominee, a Catholic High School student, a MAGA hat wearer, or in law enforcement. No reason for them to make stuff up about him. How do we know you're not a social justice warrior acting as an agent provocateur? Isn't that exactly the kind of thing they'd do? 1 Neomaxizoomdweebie reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted February 24, 2019 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted February 24, 2019 14 hours ago, TLGTrico said: I got excited when I read Howard may be going to Carolina, then I saw the source was Eklund. Seriously, why does hockeybuzz even keep posting things that guy reports. It makes him Money Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted February 24, 2019 2 Jonas Mahonas and Akakabuto reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted February 24, 2019 Nyquist deal? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted February 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Jonas Mahonas said: Nyquist deal? They are saying that Howard still has an "illness". Who knows whats true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted February 24, 2019 16 minutes ago, kliq said: They are saying that Howard still has an "illness". Who knows whats true. Hmmmmm. Hopefully, we will see Vanek, Nyquist, and Howard on other teams tomorrow. 1 kliq reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted February 24, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Jonas Mahonas said: Hmmmmm. Hopefully, we will see Vanek, Nyquist, and Howard on other teams tomorrow. Agreed, though I don't think anyone is willing to give us assets of significance for Vanek. Edited February 24, 2019 by kliq 1 Jonas Mahonas reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wingnut1989 165 Report post Posted February 24, 2019 vanek aint goin anywhere Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akakabuto 1,750 Report post Posted February 24, 2019 (edited) Kenny threatening to re-sign his ufas as a negotiation tactic Edited February 24, 2019 by Akakabuto 1 1 Dabura and Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted February 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Akakabuto said: Kenny threatening to re-sign his ufas as a negotiation tactic Nyquist is the only one that worries me. If we bring him back for four or five years @ $5M+, I'm not going to be a happy camper. And I say that as someone who's generally pretty pro-Holland these days. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
