2021 Draft

[kipwinger 8,769]

Just now, The 91 of Ryans said:

Agreed. I was into Guenther when Pronman had him ranked #1 a while back but he looks more like a high floor type guy. I'd even throw Beniers and Eklund in the same category. I don't think "Hard working" should be the first way you describe a potential top 10 pick. 

If Yzerman's swinging at high ceiling guys...

1. Power

2. Johnson

3. Lysell

4. Clarke

IMO, that's the list. 

I'd add Lucius, who I think is probably the most gifted goal scorer in the draft but is hard to really evaluate because he played so few games this year. I'd also remove Lysell, only because more and more I'm seeing him tumbling down draft boards into the late teens or 20's. He's kinda like Raty, he's got tantalizing skill but seems like a reach with the 5-8 pick.

Based on the current standings (which will obviously change) I'd expect Buffalo, Anaheim, and New Jersey to all go with defensemen. Seattle takes whomever is the surest bet with their pick. Columbus will take a center. So I'm assuming Power, Evidsson, Hughes, Clarke, and Beniers are off the board by the time we pick. I presume we'll take Eklund. According to his scouting report he's super smart, works hard, and has some skill. Plus it seems like Yzerman favors drafting players who are already performing well in men's leagues. Wouldn't be my pick, but I don't really hate it either.

[The 91 of Ryans 3,019]

19 minutes ago, kipwinger said:

I'd add Lucius, who I think is probably the most gifted goal scorer in the draft but is hard to really evaluate because he played so few games this year. I'd also remove Lysell, only because more and more I'm seeing him tumbling down draft boards into the late teens or 20's. He's kinda like Raty, he's got tantalizing skill but seems like a reach with the 5-8 pick.

Based on the current standings (which will obviously change) I'd expect Buffalo, Anaheim, and New Jersey to all go with defensemen. Seattle takes whomever is the surest bet with their pick. Columbus will take a center. So I'm assuming Power, Evidsson, Hughes, Clarke, and Beniers are off the board by the time we pick. I presume we'll take Eklund. According to his scouting report he's super smart, works hard, and has some skill. Plus it seems like Yzerman favors drafting players who are already performing well in men's leagues. Wouldn't be my pick, but I don't really hate it either.

If the Wings win the 1 spot, who would you take? 

If they win the 2 spot and Power goes 1st, who would you take? 

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1 minute ago, The 91 of Ryans said:

If the Wings win the 1 spot, who would you take? 

If they win the 2 spot and Power goes 1st, who would you take? 

In either case I'd probably trade back. I don't think there's a big enough separation in talent between basically anyone in the top ten to justify making the pick. If I was Yzerman I'd be perfectly content trading back and seeing how the board shakes out, knowing full well that I'm picking one of Johnson, Eklund, or Lucius (whom I like in that order).

I view this draft like I viewed the Seider draft. I'm not impressed with the top of the class (Hughes/Kakko) and would have been happy with any of Zegras, Dach, Cozens, or Turcotte.

But that seems like a deflection. So, if I couldn't trade back and HAD to pick first I'd probably take Power and if he were off the board and I HAD to pick second I'd take Johnson.

[The 91 of Ryans 3,019]

21 minutes ago, kipwinger said:

In either case I'd probably trade back. I don't think there's a big enough separation in talent between basically anyone in the top ten to justify making the pick. If I was Yzerman I'd be perfectly content trading back and seeing how the board shakes out, knowing full well that I'm picking one of Johnson, Eklund, or Lucius (whom I like in that order).

I view this draft like I viewed the Seider draft. I'm not impressed with the top of the class (Hughes/Kakko) and would have been happy with any of Zegras, Dach, Cozens, or Turcotte.

But that seems like a deflection. So, if I couldn't trade back and HAD to pick first I'd probably take Power and if he were off the board and I HAD to pick second I'd take Johnson.

Yeah. I think Power's the only player I'd be comfortable taking first. 

Love to grab Raty, Lysell, or Cossa with that Washington pick. Hopefully Boston beats them. 

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8 minutes ago, The 91 of Ryans said:

Yeah. I think Power's the only player I'd be comfortable taking first. 

Love to grab Raty, Lysell, or Cossa with that Washington pick. Hopefully Boston beats them. 

Agreed with the bold. But like I said, if I had that pick I'd trade back to the 5-7 range because I don't like him enough and some defense starved team surely does.

I genuinely like Beniers, I see him as basically a Bo Horvat kind of center. Those guys are super useful and exactly the kind of guy I have advocated acquiring (Ryan Johansen is essentially the same player too) to be our 2C. I just don't like him enough to take with a high end pick. But a team like Columbus, who needs centers worse than we do, will take him in a heartbeat knowing that's he's a pretty sure bet to hit his ceiling.

[LeftWinger 5,152]

ran the tankaton 20 times, once we jumped to #2, twice we stayed at #6, 17 times we dropped to #7.

[AtlantaHotWings 1,135]

I am feeling very dirty and not in a good way rooting for the Bruins.  But I know the earlier the Caps get bounced the higher we draft with our pick from them. So doing what I need for my Wings. 

If the Bruins win what is the potential highest landing spot for our pick from the Caps?

[Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083]

11 hours ago, AtlantaHotWings said:

I am feeling very dirty and not in a good way rooting for the Bruins.  But I know the earlier the Caps get bounced the higher we draft with our pick from them. So doing what I need for my Wings. 

If the Bruins win what is the potential highest landing spot for our pick from the Caps?

Late teens.

[nyqvististhefuture 1,002]

1 hour ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said:

Late teens.

Lets f***en hope + arizona not drafting drops us down another spot , id rather have had a 2022 pick but this would be the best case scenario and allow us to pick up a player like raty who may draft or whomever , maybe drop 2-3 spots and get another 2nd ... lots of possibilities if we get 17-18

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24 minutes ago, nyqvististhefuture said:

Lets f***en hope + arizona not drafting drops us down another spot , id rather have had a 2022 pick but this would be the best case scenario and allow us to pick up a player like raty who may draft or whomever , maybe drop 2-3 spots and get another 2nd ... lots of possibilities if we get 17-18

I will then continue down my dark path of rooting for the Bruins......sigh

[The 91 of Ryans 3,019]

Tuck those chubbies back in your pants boys. The only way Caps drop to 17 is if Colorado + Vegas + Carolina + Florida + Pittsburg + Toronto ALL lose. 

21 or 22 is where I'm guessing they land. IF they even lose to the Bruins.  

[nyqvististhefuture 1,002]

1 hour ago, The 91 of Ryans said:

Tuck those chubbies back in your pants boys. The only way Caps drop to 17 is if Colorado + Vegas + Carolina + Florida + Pittsburg + Toronto ALL lose. 

21 or 22 is where I'm guessing they land. IF they even lose to the Bruins.  

I thought it mattered if they got outed first or 2nd rounder ... oh well s***ty draft pick it is  ... unless we get some teams move up to the final 4 i believe with Arizona losing a pick best we’d do is 25

meh

Edited May 20, 2021 by nyqvististhefuture

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1 hour ago, The 91 of Ryans said:

Tuck those chubbies back in your pants boys. The only way Caps drop to 17 is if Colorado + Vegas + Carolina + Florida + Pittsburg + Toronto ALL lose. 

21 or 22 is where I'm guessing they land. IF they even lose to the Bruins.  

This is pretty close but you're forgetting Seattle. Of the teams with better records than Washington it seems like only Florida, Pittsburgh, and maybe one of Vegas or Toronto could lose. That's means Washington (ranked 26th in the league when you figure in Seattle) might only pick up two or three spots total.

[Akakabuto 1,863]

2 hours ago, The 91 of Ryans said:

Tuck those chubbies back in your pants boys. The only way Caps drop to 17 is if Colorado + Vegas + Carolina + Florida + Pittsburg + Toronto ALL lose. 

21 or 22 is where I'm guessing they land. IF they even lose to the Bruins.  

Chubbies? The thought of getting the 17th pick have me at full mast. 

[Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083]

2 hours ago, The 91 of Ryans said:

Tuck those chubbies back in your pants boys. The only way Caps drop to 17 is if Colorado + Vegas + Carolina + Florida + Pittsburg + Toronto ALL lose. 

21 or 22 is where I'm guessing they land. IF they even lose to the Bruins.  

It will depend on the regular season finishes of the 8 teams that lose in the 1st round, I think. So 17-24 is possible with that pick if they lose to Boston. Gotta hope for more upsets.

7 minutes ago, Akakabuto said:

Chubbies? The thought of getting the 17th pick have me at full mast. 

I wouldn't call 3 inches a full mast.

Edited May 20, 2021 by Neomaxizoomdweebie

[Akakabuto 1,863]

3 minutes ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said:

It will depend on the regular season finishes of the 8 teams that lose in the 1st round, I think. So 17-24 is possible with that pick if they lose to Boston. Gotta hope for more upsets.

I wouldn't call 3 inches a full mast.

Hey! Its not the size of the ship, its the motion of the ocean. 

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1 minute ago, Akakabuto said:

Hey! Its not the size of the ship, its the motion of the ocean. 

You hear that argument a lot. But let's be honest, you're more likely to reach your destination on a cruise ship then a rowboat. And you'll have a lot more fun getting there.

[Akakabuto 1,863]

1 minute ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said:

You hear that argument a lot. But let's be honest, you're more likely to reach your destination on a cruise ship then a rowboat. And you'll have a lot more fun getting there.

You haven’t seen me row

[nyqvististhefuture 1,002]

1 hour ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said:

It will depend on the regular season finishes of the 8 teams that lose in the 1st round, I think. So 17-24 is possible with that pick if they lose to Boston. Gotta hope for more upsets.

I wouldn't call 3 inches a full mast.

I think 2nd round is still a factor though so we’d have to be rooting for say winnipeg/edmonton to beat toronto 2nd round . I think the bottom 4 teams pick 28-32 so tampa and 3 other teams with less pts making it to final 4 would be the best case scenario for us  then picking 22 i believe and with arizona out 21st really 

We’d need like vegas/avs vs jets and tampa vs nyi/bos lets say final 4 to pick 22 i believe  .... probably best for us if the wild knocked out vegas ... but i bet vegas to win the eries f*** lmao

 

whatever happens happens

Edited May 20, 2021 by nyqvististhefuture

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1 hour ago, Akakabuto said:

You haven’t seen me row

Oh yeah. Forgot about that Viking blood.

[Gniwder 168]

4 hours ago, Akakabuto said:

Chubbies? The thought of getting the 17th pick have me at full mast. 

 

4 hours ago, Akakabuto said:

Hey! Its not the size of the ship, its the motion of the ocean. 

 

4 hours ago, Akakabuto said:

You haven’t seen me row

 

Only rigidity matters. Ladies like stiffies that can cut cubic zirconia

Edited May 20, 2021 by Gniwder

[town123 236]

Can anyone answer this?

 

Why are teams that are drafting 13th - 16th getting odds to snag the 1st or 2nd pick in the lottery?    I'm assuming there's only two draws.   One for the top pick and another for the 2nd pick.   You can only move up 10 spots, so theoretically the last team (Chicago at #12) can only move up to #2.

 

We have a 7.6% chance to hit #1 and a 15.4% shot at #2.   I'm confused.

[Akakabuto 1,863]

52 minutes ago, town123 said:

You can only move up 10 spots

That rule goes into effect at next years draft. 

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3 minutes ago, Akakabuto said:

That rule goes into effect at next years draft. 

dang

 

Since 22 and 23 look like better drafts for the top three, I guess that works better for us.   

 

Thx for clarifying

Edited May 23, 2021 by town123

[TLGTrico 663]

It's really annoying how every year on this forum people incorrectly assume that the order in which your eliminated from from the playoffs affects your draft position.  In reality, unless you make the final 4 your draft position is determined by the standings and nothing else.  As of right now, the Capitals' pick can be no higher than 22.

Edited May 24, 2021 by TLGTrico