2022 Draft / UFA

[mackel 758]

Maybe it's just me but I simply don't care who we pick this draft.  For me it was lottery or bust... we won't be able to get what we need at 8, I'd strongly consider trading the pick. 

NJ winning the lottery again is also a major kick in the nuts... could we trade them a package of Bert and 8OA for 2OA?  Although the percentages weren't favorable to move up this lack of "luck" is a bit unbelievable and morale killing.

[Akakabuto 1,842]

We didn't drop back, so I'm happy. Pick 4-16 looks to be pretty wide open and Stevie will find the best player in that group.

Couldn't care less about the Devils winning again. Since when do we care about the Devils?

[bIueadams 776]

27 minutes ago, Akakabuto said:

We didn't drop back, so I'm happy. Pick 4-16 looks to be pretty wide open and Stevie will find the best player in that group.

Couldn't care less about the Devils winning again. Since when do we care about the Devils?

Devils will be s*** with or without that pick. I just find it alarming how MTL can go from finals to 1st overall in one year. 

[Akakabuto 1,842]

59 minutes ago, bIueadams said:

I just find it alarming how MTL can go from finals to 1st overall in one year. 

Last season wasn't real. North division was a joke. Vegas har proven to be joke. Montreal were always a joke(+Price).

[redw1ngs 149]

8 hours ago, Jonas Mahonas said:

maybe Steve can trade back for Buffalos 9 and 16.

Suter + 8oa

for

9oa and 16oa

Suter isnt worth 16oa plus the negligible diff between 8oa/9oa not even close. Acquiring another 1st would have to include Bertuzzi/Hronek imo.

[LeftWinger 5,111]

New Jersey will be in cap hell in a few years. Arent the top 3 ineligible for another top 3 pick for the next few years now? No matter where they finish?

Yzerman will get a stud at 8, or if his guy is more of a 12-15 pick, he'll trade back. Either way he's going to pick one of the best players in the draft.

Also, we didn't drop, can't be mad at the NHL. Be mad at the Red Wings for picking up useless unneeded points when it was clear the playoffs were out of the picture.

Next up, new coaching staff!

Edited May 11, 2022 by LeftWinger

[marcaractac 3,963]

24 minutes ago, LeftWinger said:

New Jersey will be in cap hell in a few years. Arent the top 3 ineligible for another top 3 pick for the next few years now? No matter where they finish?

Yzerman will get a stud at 8, or if his guy is more of a 12-15 pick, he'll trade back. Either way he's going to pick one of the best players in the draft.

Also, we didn't drop, can't be mad at the NHL. Be mad at the Red Wings for picking up useless unneeded points when it was clear the playoffs were out of the picture.

Next up, new coaching staff!

Habs and Devils could very well win it again next year. The 5-year rule doesn't factor in any lottery wins before yesterday. 

[amato 3,210]

4 hours ago, bIueadams said:

Devils will be s*** with or without that pick. I just find it alarming how MTL can go from finals to 1st overall in one year. 

On top of moving back to a normal schedule, they didn't have Price or Weber all year, and had Drouin, Gallagher, and others miss big chunks of the season. They also buried Caulfield down the depth chart/in the minors until they finally made a coaching change. 

It's nothing new for them though... Live by the Price, die by the Price. 

[Jonas Mahonas 1,872]

2 hours ago, redw1ngs said:

Suter isnt worth 16oa plus the negligible diff between 8oa/9oa not even close. Acquiring another 1st would have to include Bertuzzi/Hronek imo.

I would do Bertuzzi + 8oa for 9oa and 16oa.

[redw1ngs 149]

20 minutes ago, Jonas Mahonas said:

I would do Bertuzzi + 8oa for 9oa and 16oa.

Bertuzzi + 8oa for Quinn + 16oa

[Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083]

9 hours ago, Akakabuto said:

Since when do we care about the Devils?

Speak for yourself heathen.

5 hours ago, LeftWinger said:

New Jersey will be in cap hell in a few years. Arent the top 3 ineligible for another top 3 pick for the next few years now? No matter where they finish?

Yzerman will get a stud at 8, or if his guy is more of a 12-15 pick, he'll trade back. Either way he's going to pick one of the best players in the draft.

Also, we didn't drop, can't be mad at the NHL. Be mad at the Red Wings for picking up useless unneeded points when it was clear the playoffs were out of the picture.

Next up, new coaching staff!

Wings weren't going to get in the top 2 or 3 even without those "useless, unneeded points".

Edited May 11, 2022 by Neomaxizoomdweebie

[TLGTrico 657]

New Jersey is open to trading second overall.  What would it take on top of bertuzzi and Zadina to get it?

[marcaractac 3,963]

42 minutes ago, TLGTrico said:

New Jersey is open to trading second overall.  What would it take on top of bertuzzi and Zadina to get it?

Extend Bert for like 3 years then Bert for 2OA straight up. Devils wanna compete now. Give them Bert's prime years for the pick. If they don't like it, fine. They can just suck again.

[bIueadams 776]

Ottawa also shopping the #7

[marcaractac 3,963]

45 minutes ago, bIueadams said:

Ottawa also shopping the #7

Hronek for #7 lmao. They do seem to lack intelligence over there.

[kipwinger 8,744]

I'm happy for any of Gauthier, Nazer, or Kasper with that pick.

[Jonas Mahonas 1,872]

imagine:

 

Bert to NJD for #2

Suter + 2023 2nd + 2024 1st for #7.

Juolevi + Walman + 2022 2nd + 2024 2nd for #9.

 

2,7,8,9.

 

Yzerman could do some serious damage.

[Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083]

3 hours ago, TLGTrico said:

New Jersey is open to trading second overall.  What would it take on top of bertuzzi and Zadina to get it?

#8

3 hours ago, marcaractac said:

Extend Bert for like 3 years then Bert for 2OA straight up. Devils wanna compete now. Give them Bert's prime years for the pick. If they don't like it, fine. They can just suck again.

Never ever gonna happen.

49 minutes ago, Jonas Mahonas said:

imagine:

 

Bert to NJD for #2

Suter + 2023 2nd + 2024 1st for #7.

Juolevi + Walman + 2022 2nd + 2024 2nd for #9.

 

2,7,8,9.

 

Yzerman could do some serious damage.

 Not with those offers. He would get hung up on.

[Jonas Mahonas 1,872]

1 hour ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said:

#8

Never ever gonna happen.

 Not with those offers. He would get hung up on.

yah, i have ZERO idea what #7 thru #16 are actually worth.  #2 i have an idea = young impact player + 1st rnd pick + 2nd rnd pick.

[redw1ngs 149]

3 hours ago, kipwinger said:

I'm happy for any of Gauthier, Nazer, or Kasper with that pick.

This is my list along with Lambert assuming Nemec isnt available. 

[Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083]

31 minutes ago, Jonas Mahonas said:

yah, i have ZERO idea what #7 thru #16 are actually worth.  #2 i have an idea = young impact player + 1st rnd pick + 2nd rnd pick.

It would probably require a multiple team deal with a team between us and them. MTL and NJ wont move down to #8. They could trade down to 3-5 range, but it would require a team in that range to be willing to trade down to 8.

[Jonas Mahonas 1,872]

1 hour ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said:

It would probably require a multiple team deal with a team between us and them. MTL and NJ wont move down to #8. They could trade down to 3-5 range, but it would require a team in that range to be willing to trade down to 8.

That aint gonna happen.

[Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083]

2 hours ago, Jonas Mahonas said:

That aint gonna happen.

Likely not.

[town123 226]

On 5/10/2022 at 11:49 PM, mackel said:

Maybe it's just me but I simply don't care who we pick this draft.  For me it was lottery or bust... we won't be able to get what we need at 8, I'd strongly consider trading the pick. 

NJ winning the lottery again is also a major kick in the nuts... could we trade them a package of Bert and 8OA for 2OA?  Although the percentages weren't favorable to move up this lack of "luck" is a bit unbelievable and morale killing.

I don't know.    Looking at the recent history of 7th and 8th overall picks I think we could do alright.  SY do it again!

Scheifele, Couturier, Nylander, Dumba, Werenski, Nurse, Quinn Hughes, Broberg, Holtz.

[Akakabuto 1,842]

12 minutes ago, town123 said:

I don't know.    Looking at the recent history of 7th and 8th overall picks I think we could do alright.  SY do it again!

Scheifele, Couturier, Nylander, Dumba, Werenski, Nurse, Quinn Hughes, Broberg, Holtz.

I like this draft for us. Everyone seems to agree that Wright, Slafkovsky and Cooley are top three but after that its looks to wide open. Stevie will get a good one.