bIueadams 776 Report post Posted June 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Jonas Mahonas said: I like rereading his rslurred comments in the Ovi thread. What a turd. my turd 1 Jonas Mahonas reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,756 Report post Posted June 9, 2023 What a f*cking finish. 2 Jonas Mahonas and Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F.Michael 4,590 Report post Posted June 9, 2023 Nice to see FLA pull off a win at home. 2 Dabura and Jonas Mahonas reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted June 9, 2023 sweet. That comeback reminded me of Mike striking out in the 10th frame to break 200. 2 Akakabuto and F.Michael reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F.Michael 4,590 Report post Posted June 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Jonas Mahonas said: sweet. That comeback reminded me of Mike striking out in the 10th frame to break 200. 2 Akakabuto and Jonas Mahonas reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akakabuto 1,842 Report post Posted June 9, 2023 There goes a RHD off the market If thats what Severson gets then I dont like the FA market at all. Time for trades. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
town123 233 Report post Posted June 9, 2023 3rd rounder to NJ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted June 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Akakabuto said: There goes a RHD off the market If thats what Severson gets then I dont like the FA market at all. Time for trades. This is why I want to focus on Willander and Reinbacher in the draft. We are not going to get a Raymond at #9. We COULD end up getting a Seider Light. 1 Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akakabuto 1,842 Report post Posted June 9, 2023 Too expensive? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted June 9, 2023 58 minutes ago, Akakabuto said: Too expensive? minus 31. too non defensive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akakabuto 1,842 Report post Posted June 9, 2023 28 minutes ago, Jonas Mahonas said: minus 31. too non defensive. defensive deschmensive 1 F.Michael reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
town123 233 Report post Posted June 9, 2023 What would his contract look like and is he really someone we want to tie up long term? Guessing 8m per / 7Years. I really don't know enough about the kid to comment. He is pretty small and has never seen the difference between regular season and playoff hockey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted June 9, 2023 1 hour ago, town123 said: What would his contract look like and is he really someone we want to tie up long term? Guessing 8m per / 7Years. I really don't know enough about the kid to comment. He is pretty small and has never seen the difference between regular season and playoff hockey. I wouldnt touch this guy if I was Steve. He's Erik Karlsson at F. Minuses galore fore the sake of his statline. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted June 10, 2023 5 hours ago, Akakabuto said: Too expensive? If DeBrincat's basically twisting Dorion's arm, then maybe the price wouldn't be anything too crazy. That's what I'm hoping. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted June 10, 2023 25 minutes ago, Dabura said: If DeBrincat's basically twisting Dorion's arm, then maybe the price wouldn't be anything too crazy. That's what I'm hoping. Anything over 5 per is a big pass. 5 x 5, and Im not gonna cry about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted June 10, 2023 2 hours ago, Jonas Mahonas said: I wouldnt touch this guy if I was Steve. He's Erik Karlsson at F. Minuses galore fore the sake of his statline. Fair. But let's consider the positives: 25 years old (26 in December) Right-handed shot Hometown kid who seemingly wouldn't mind coming home 2017-18: 28 goals and 52 points in 82 games 2018-19: 41 goals and 76 points in 82 games 2019-20: 18 goals and 45 points in 70 games 2020-21: 32 goals and 56 points in 50 games 2021-22: 41 goals and 78 points in 82 games 2022-23: 27 goals and 66 points in 82 games And let's also consider this: We can't score goals to save our lives Basically, we're talking about a young player in his prime who can flat-out produce - and who (if the whispers are to be believed) has the Wings on his short list of teams he wants to play for. If that's not something we're interested in, then I'm honestly not sure what we're even doing. Do I love the idea of giving up some good pieces and then signing him to a deal that's comparable to Larkin's? Not really, no. But we're beggars, and I dunno that we can afford to pretend we're choosers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted June 10, 2023 59 minutes ago, Dabura said: Fair. But let's consider the positives: 25 years old (26 in December) Right-handed shot Hometown kid who seemingly wouldn't mind coming home 2017-18: 28 goals and 52 points in 82 games 2018-19: 41 goals and 76 points in 82 games 2019-20: 18 goals and 45 points in 70 games 2020-21: 32 goals and 56 points in 50 games 2021-22: 41 goals and 78 points in 82 games 2022-23: 27 goals and 66 points in 82 games And let's also consider this: We can't score goals to save our lives Basically, we're talking about a young player in his prime who can flat-out produce - and who (if the whispers are to be believed) has the Wings on his short list of teams he wants to play for. If that's not something we're interested in, then I'm honestly not sure what we're even doing. Do I love the idea of giving up some good pieces and then signing him to a deal that's comparable to Larkin's? Not really, no. But we're beggars, and I dunno that we can afford to pretend we're choosers. If we give up and 1sts or former 1sts, I wont be happy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
town123 233 Report post Posted June 10, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, Dabura said: But we're beggars, and I dunno that we can afford to pretend we're choosers. We shouldn't be beggars. Ottawa is under the gun to move him, either now or at the TDL. For what they paid for him last year, they're going to want a 1st and a 3rd I would guess. Pass. If the kid really wants to come home, he can wait a year if the contract terms are right for both parties. Edited June 10, 2023 by town123 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtlantaHotWings 1,126 Report post Posted June 10, 2023 2 hours ago, town123 said: We shouldn't be beggars. Ottawa is under the gun to move him, either now or at the TDL. For what they paid for him last year, they're going to want a 1st and a 3rd I would guess. Pass. If the kid really wants to come home, he can wait a year if the contract terms are right for both parties. Pre coffee idea we throw Zadina/Veleno and a third.... After coffee WTF are you smoking.... 1 town123 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
town123 233 Report post Posted June 10, 2023 Kid is in his last year making 6.4M. Any clues to what a long term deal would be? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted June 10, 2023 27 minutes ago, town123 said: Kid is in his last year making 6.4M. Any clues to what a long term deal would be? This guy doesnt play defense. If we take him on, it will be a mistake. 1 town123 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,019 Report post Posted June 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Jonas Mahonas said: This guy doesnt play defense. If we take him on, it will be a mistake. I’m with stupid ^ In fact I’m not sure Yzerman would go 8x8 in free agency let alone cough up big time assets to get him. Also f*** Ottawa if they’re looking for Detroit’s 9OA. Just cuz they f***ed up trading for a guy everyone knew wouldn’t stay in that s***-hole doesn’t mean they get to recoup what they lost. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bIueadams 776 Report post Posted June 10, 2023 (edited) To DET: Debrincat To OTT: Perron + Fabbri We also have Veleno, Zadina, and Lindstrom's RFA rights, but I doubt anyone has much interest in that lot. But maybe Winnipeg might? As it seems they're gonna blow everything up and Hellbuck isn't going to re-sign. They'd be best to just trade him now, when he still has a full season of value. To DET: Hellybuck To WPG: Zadina + Lindstrom + This years 17th overall Connor Garland is also rumored to be a free asset from Van. Maybe if we give something we can jump to the front of the pack and have him for cheap? To DET: Garland To VAN: Veleno + 4th Then for the 4th line we assemble a beefcake grindline in UFA, and grab Radko Gudas for the 3rd pair Rasmussen - Larkin - Debrincat Kubalik - Copp - Raymond Beggren - Kasper - Garland Engvall - Girgensons - Hathaway Soderblom/Mazur Walman - Seider Edvinsson - Chiarot Maata - Gudas McIsaac Hellybuck Husso Stalwart goaltending + big D corps + 3 scoring lines and a big nasty grindline + very young team (Gudas and Chiarot can be the dads) Edited June 10, 2023 by bIueadams Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,756 Report post Posted June 10, 2023 (edited) Obviously this is dependent on whether they'd sign extensions, I'd also be willing to add any of Zadina, Fabbri, Perron, Kubalik, Chiarat, Maatta, or Zadina if either team wants roster players: To Det: Dubios To Winnipeg: 2023 1st (Islanders) + 2023 2nd + (one of) Wallinder/Sodorblom/Johansson and then... To Det: Debrincat To Ottawa: 2024 1st (Boston), 2023 2nd + (one of) Wallinder/Sodorblom/Johansson and then... Get your backup goalie and RHD in free agency Ras-Larkin-Debrincat Copp-Dubois-Raymond Kubalik-Kasper-Perron Berggren-Veleno-Mazur Edited June 10, 2023 by kipwinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
town123 233 Report post Posted June 10, 2023 (edited) 38 minutes ago, kipwinger said: Obviously this is dependent on whether they'd sign extensions, I'd also be willing to add any of Zadina, Fabbri, Perron, Kubalik, Chiarat, Maatta, or Zadina if either team wants roster players: To Det: Dubios To Winnipeg: 2023 1st (Islanders) + 2023 2nd + (one of) Wallinder/Sodorblom/Johansson and then... To Det: Debrincat To Ottawa: 2024 1st (Boston), 2023 2nd + (one of) Wallinder/Sodorblom/Johansson and then... Get your backup goalie and RHD in free agency Ras-Larkin-Debrincat Copp-Dubois-Raymond Kubalik-Kasper-Perron Berggren-Veleno-Mazur I can't see Dubois signing here long term. No deal. Way too much for Debrincat IMO. No deal. I know you kids want to fast track our playoff/competitive quotient, but, this is the last year/or two probably of having a decent chance to load our system, so I don't want to trade away any of our futures for the now. Our lottery luck has been crappy, (Gary hates us) and even with Kasper, Eddoggie etc, we're still pretty thin with hopefuls. Take on salary, get extra picks and if our team deserves to make it into the playoffs then great, I just don't want to force it. Edited June 10, 2023 by town123 1 ely s reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
