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#2356411 Healthy starters the problem, Not young replacements

Posted by puckbags on 16 February 2013 - 02:32 PM

Im just preparing for Cleary, Howard, and Filppula to be re-signed for 2.5, 3.5, and 4.5 mil. Then we try and lowball Perry and say we dont have enough room to pay you what youre worth. You can bank on that happening.

 

Cleary I don't care about..Jimmy is worth 3.5 and Flip will be in the 3.75 - 4 mil range.Perfectly normal salaries for guys of their age and skill level.




#2356395 Healthy starters the problem, Not young replacements

Posted by puckbags on 16 February 2013 - 01:44 PM

These are my sentiments. Holland needed to go after Suter and Parise with an open checkbook. 9 mil per for both sound ridiculous? Well, we are almost paying 20 mil to a bunch of guys we get little return out of anyways.

Quincey = 3.7 mil
Bertuzzi = 1.75 mil
Sammy = 3 mil
Monster = 1.75 mil
Cleary = 2 mil
Tootoo = 1.8 mil
Colo = 2 mil
Huskins = .75 mil
White = 1.75 mil

Thats 18.5 mil.

Oh you screwed us, Axe. We are over the cap now.

Wrong.

This assumes we could play a sane Ken Holland from the Bertuzzi signing forward.

I trade Filppula, Kronwall, and Franzen for Cory Perry and sign Perry to 9 mil per.

Parise (9) - Dats (6.75) - Perry (9)
Zetterberg (6.25) - Helm (3) - Brunner (2)
Tartar (1) - Andersson (1) - Nyquist (1)
Sheahan (.75) - Emmerton (1) - Ferarro (.75)

Jarnkrok (.75) - Next GR guy (.75)

Suter (9) - Ericsson (3)
Smith (2) - Lashoff (1)
Sproul (.75) - Ouelette (.75)

Huskins (.75)

Mrazek (1)
McCollum (.75)

62 mil.

 This is like the 5th time I've explained this to you..Holland went at both of these guys with an open check book.  They were not going to come to Detroit..end of story..it has nothing to do with the money.  Get this through your head and quit posting these stupid lineups that involve Suter and Parise.




#2356202 2/15 GDT : Anaheim Ducks 5 at Red Wings 2

Posted by puckbags on 15 February 2013 - 09:58 PM

Looking at the replay of the game-winner, it's clear that Kronner had no idea where to pass that puck to.

 

Kronner needs to play the same kind of game he played when Lids was playing..right now he's trying to be Lids and make all these tight, cute passes and it's not his strong point.  He's been bad. End of story.  Tatar deserves to stay up when everyone is healthy.  I don't know what we are going to do with the bottom 6...there are going to be alot of guys fighting for 6 spots.  Nyquist can go back to GR..shown nothing..does he really want to be up here? We need to keep our heads above water until we get semi healthy.




#2355478 Babcock: Is he the right guy going forward?

Posted by puckbags on 14 February 2013 - 12:36 PM

I think a huge sign of a good coach is how you deal with roster turnover and injuries.  We haven't played two games in a row this year with the same lineup I don't think. Decimated by injuries and the loss of the best d man of the last 20 years.  We are 7-4-2.  I have never lost faith in Babs and I sure won't start now.


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#2355332 Dan Cleary appreciation thread

Posted by puckbags on 13 February 2013 - 11:33 PM

Making a thread mocking Cleary is pretty s***ty though I must say.  I like everyone else agrees he is done but he has more than served this team well over the years.




#2355323 Dan Cleary appreciation thread

Posted by puckbags on 13 February 2013 - 11:21 PM

I agree....sit Cleary and send Andersson back to GR and give a bone to Sheahan and Ferraro.

 

Andersson hasn't done anything terrible but he also hasn't done anything to stand out..throw a bone to someone else in GR and see what they have.  While we are missing an entire 5 man unit to injury now would be the time to try some different guys out.




#2354493 Biggest mistake Red Wings have done

Posted by puckbags on 12 February 2013 - 07:15 PM

biggest mistake the wings have done in my opinion is being way too loyal to the veterans and past players instead of letting the kids play , it really bugs the hell out of me that we signed samuelsson in the summer and now hes only played 2 games and is out yet again with a damn groin injury(pretty sure he always had that when he was here )

 

tatar is in his 4th season in grand rapids , nyquist should of started the season in the top 6 .... guys like  mursak,samuelsson,miller,bertuzzi they should all be gone 

 

we cant expect to add in a bunch of rookies all in the same year , we have to gradually insert them into our lineup so they can learn from the veterans

 

I know tatar and andersson and probably lashoff will eventually all be back in the ahl but both tatar and lashoff as well as nyquist should be up

 

its time to get rid of the junk this team has and let the future get some games in

 

If these are what we are considering mistakes then I'm pretty sure I won't lose any sleep tonight over them.  Been a fan for 20 years and we have won 4 cups in that time and we are questioning the over protective loyalty of this franchise? Loyalty of any sort is almost impossible to find these days..maybe we need more of it?




#2354274 2/10 GDT : Kings 2 at Red Wings 3

Posted by puckbags on 11 February 2013 - 04:23 PM

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Sweet pic, Dats uses this controller when he plays NHL 13 

 

Datsyuk controller



#2354225 Joey MacDonald claimed by Calgary off waivers

Posted by puckbags on 11 February 2013 - 12:44 PM

A little insight from Bob McKenzie...

 

 

 

Good for Joey Mac, he got thrown into the fire here a few times and did a more than capable job.  good luck to him in Calgary




#2353721 2/10 GDT : Kings 2 at Red Wings 3

Posted by puckbags on 10 February 2013 - 01:18 PM

I know Kenny always takes heat for the guys that he supposedly didn't sign or trade for and somehow it was Bowman who found him even though he doesnt have anything to do with this team anymore but this Brunner kid is something.   


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#2352936 General thoughts: this team, its future, the league...

Posted by puckbags on 08 February 2013 - 01:24 PM

Im in agreement for the most part. Dont want to give up on Kindl just yet. His pricetag is in check.

I hate that Holland spent 15 mil per on 7-8 sucky guys insteD of 18 mil per on 2 guys. Thats our biggest problem. We have 27 roster players, and only a handful of them are legit. Bertuzzi, Gustavsson, Quincey, Tootoo, Samuelsson, Huskins, Colo, etc. The Return on Investment for these players has been awful so far. Holland did us in when he failed to land Parise and Suter. His checkbook should have been open. But now it looks like we are playing moneypuck. Im not that excited about the Red Wings turning into the Oakland A's of hockey.

 

Where are these guys that you speak of? Suter ? We put a huge offer out for him..he was never coming here..he wanted to play in Minny..end of conversation on that one.  Check out that link with the top defensive scorers on it.  There isn't one guy in the top 30 that is head and shoulders above the rest.  Alot of really good guys there but spending 10 mil a year on any of those guys is crazy. 



Im in agreement for the most part. Dont want to give up on Kindl just yet. His pricetag is in check.

I hate that Holland spent 15 mil per on 7-8 sucky guys insteD of 18 mil per on 2 guys. Thats our biggest problem. We have 27 roster players, and only a handful of them are legit. Bertuzzi, Gustavsson, Quincey, Tootoo, Samuelsson, Huskins, Colo, etc. The Return on Investment for these players has been awful so far. Holland did us in when he failed to land Parise and Suter. His checkbook should have been open. But now it looks like we are playing moneypuck. Im not that excited about the Red Wings turning into the Oakland A's of hockey.

 

What? Obviously the return on investement on Colo, Sammy and Gustavsson is still up for debate because they have been injured.  Tootoo has done everything they would've wanted out of him so far..he's been physical, dropped the gloves and changed the flow of games when we needed it.  Bert is what he is, 3rd line guy..10-15 goals a year..good contract..good team guy.  Quincey would be tolerable if we didnt give up a 1st for him..that one hurts.  Huskins was an emergency guy playing for peanuts and doing everything they asked of him. Get over the Parise and Suter thing..you don't get it..they were never playing here..we offered them huge money and they wanted to play in Minny.




#2352365 Isles acquire Tim Thomas to get to cap floor.

Posted by puckbags on 07 February 2013 - 05:29 PM

Thomas might not want to play ever again now that he's stuck on the Isle.




#2351980 Toughness

Posted by puckbags on 06 February 2013 - 11:54 AM

Are the Wings too soft? I understand a sliced leg and broken bones, but our whole team sits out with owies. Im getting a little fed up with soreness issues.


You get fed up with everything and we all know about it because you start a thread every 12 seconds. Maybe you are soft?


#2351977 Howard = Average

Posted by puckbags on 06 February 2013 - 11:48 AM

Howard= needs a rest

He hasn't been good the last couple of games but throwing him under the bus at this point is such fair weather fan crap. Get Mrazek in now. Jimmy needs a rest bad and we need to see what this guy can do.


#2351558 2/5 GDT : Flames 4 at Red Wings 1

Posted by puckbags on 05 February 2013 - 08:15 PM

Even garbage teams like the Flames dance around this soft defense... it's just awful to watch -.-

 

No one is forcing you to watch are they?