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Other than that fact that Lidstrom is still 9th among defensemen in points and 8th in +/-, I'm not saying that Lidstrom doesn't need to take a paycut. I'm just saying you're an idiot and your ideas for next year's salary seem to be drug-induced.

Except Boogaard doesnt do that kind of stuff, and neither do most heavys. Its the Avery, Ott, Tucker, Cooke and Tootoo's of the league this is aimed at.

A better move would be to get rid of the instigator rule, to weed out ******* like Matt Cooke from the NHL.

-29, this is great! I'm so flatted to have garnered so much attention. Apparently some in here are pretty self conscious of status or trying to be elite or really making a point of showing that they dislike some people.

I have been a Wings fan for as long as I can remember. However I have lived in San Diego my whole life so I rarely get to discuss the team with anyone who follows them like I do. Now don't get me wrong, I feel like Flip is an alright player, but can not understand why is has practically been crowned as the next Hank or Dats. Even though he has only played 38 games this year, his statistics are still nothing special especially considering he is supposed to be a skill/finesse player. His defense is suspect, he needs to play stronger, and his stick handling while exceptional, hardly merits the praise his overall game receives from the loyal wings fans on the site. Please inform me on something I may be missing. I don't get to watch every game but I watch an many as one can being from San Diego.

I like you GMR, I'll give that post a "+". I also like the explanation portion of the rating system.

The Cookie Monster is a piece of trash and disliked by most around the league i gotta say I agree with a post that I saw that Bettman's favorite franchise got away with another one again...Of course if someone did that to baby Crosby they would immediately be suspended because he is the "greatest hockey player ever" LMAO I HATE the penguins and everyone with their organization...I can't believe people in a Red Wings forum would agree that was a legal hit!? Perhaps had it been Datsyuk this forum would be going insane right now. I like Marc Savard he is a good all around player, and much like Lilja won't be returning until 2011, thats my guess. I am sick of the mixed messages as well...Laparierre got suspended for hitting Nichol that wasn't half as bad as the Cooke hit on Savard.

This obviously excludes legends that I never had any chance to see play due to age constraints: 1) Yzerman, the reason I started to follow hockey in the first place, a truly great hockey player and more importantly a great human being. 2) McCarty, guy played with so much passion and grit, how can you not like him, he bled and drew blood for his team like no other. 3) Lidstrom, excellence personified, I can count on one hand the number of times I saw him make a bad or questionsble play. 4) Shanahan, I was so pumped when we traded Primeau's sorry hide for him, and he did not disappoint one bit. 5) Datsyuk, an absolute magician, if they ever thought of renaimg trophies they should rename the Selke after him. 6) Konstantinov, what a force he was, tragically cut short in his prime, is symbolic of the values of the Ilitch family and the Red Wings organization. 7) Zetterberg, arguably the hardest working player of his generation, nobody thought he could be this good (except maybe Hakan Andersson) 8) Filppula, probably will get flamed for this, but he is my favorite current Red Wing for reasons I will gladly explain but should not have to justify, can't leave him off my list 9) Kozlov, tough little guy, clutch in the playoffs, and my favorite image from the Avs rivalry after the Turtle is Kozzie sidestepping Foote and slamming his ugly mug into the glass 10) Osgood, one of the most underrated goalies IMO, all he has done is win 3 Stanley Cups, 2 as a starter, 389 wins, 74 playoff wins, and all he gets is criticism and second-guessing. Honorable mentions to: Larionov, Lapointe, Doug Brown

All I want is to see someone pummel Matt Cooke within an inch of his life. Is that too much to ask?

You would have hated Primeau when he was with the Wings -- absolutely infuriating. Think Lang, only more whiny. He didn't start playing to his potential until with Phily. My list: 1) Konstantinov 2) Yzerman 3) Lidstrom 4) Larionov 5) Kocur 6) Fischer 7) Datsyuk 8) Hasek 9) Hudler 10) Zetterberg

BS...Z had a step on him and could've used his body to protect the puck at least giving himself a better opportunity or drawing a penalty. Watch it again. Either way, Z took the less physical way out and didn't get as good of a chance as he could have.

It was a legal hit, why would he be suspended? Just like the Richards hit. Both legal, but vicious hits. No suspension warranted.

Nope. There have been moments in the past obviously being that I've been a member on here for a while but definitely not lately. Even if there were it'd probably be with people who could care less about the rating or rep thing that badly either. Some may not like me, that's fine, doesn't bother me at all. Not looking for acceptance or a fan club. I am who I am and probably not much on here will change that, nor will I change people on here myself in all likelihood. I don't have personal vendettas against anybody here nor would have much of a worthwhile reason to have one, especially when it comes to rating somebody in an Internet forum. Your guess is as good as mine is to what I might have done recently or over a lengthy period to warrant this, or over a lengthy period, because I don't have any grudges with people and nobody that I can think of has any beef with me to where I think I'm being stalked obsessively or where I should tell somebody to just leave me alone. If this is a revenge factor towards me for somebody or some people, knock yourself out I guess if it makes you sleep easier at night. It's pretty embarassing though.

Sammy is having a good year and anyone that wouldn't like to have him back needs to look at the standings. I hated his consistent PP shots into the shins of opposing defensemen, but he did score a lot of timely goals.

Just to put the whole who-he-plays-with thing to rest: Samuelsson has taken 48.97% of his even-strength shifts this season with Kesler & Raymond. His second-most common line is with the Sedin's, at 8.06% of his shifts. 7.9% with H. Sedin & Burrows 4.78% with Bernier & Wellwood 3.96% with Burrows & Wellwood 2.96% with Kesler & Shirokov Many others less than that.

Wow, a -114 rating for myself presently. Seriously, I'm not all that special. Somebody honestly really needs to find better use of their time instead of just marking and spamming people's reputations on here up and down a bajillion points a day. I'll restate like on the previous page, I really don't care about my own status/rep thingy on here, it's just pretty pitiful and humorous the attention somebody is giving me regarding it. More of me being curious. Are there different filters or rules you can set on the reputation level if it is kept, or is this the best way the Web site environment works as it is presently laid out Matt? Because I wouldn't be too shocked if every now and then you're just going to have members who just don't like others (or overly like some people perhaps), and want to spam somebody's rep level to absurd numbers. It's happened to me two days in a row now. And I personally don't care and am not crying about it in terms of bad reputation, I think it could actually be a fun feature if used better/not spammed, just something else possibly worth considering whenever you get close to wrapping the Web site up. EDIT: To further and quickly add after I skimmed a few threads I typically go in most days being naturally curious, it's sad when you are the only one getting - rep posts, or reputation posts of any kind, in the Water Cooler when there is no other activity in there regarding the reputation status, either + or -. Random threads in the water cooler that have pretty much nothing to do with anything and are about as unharmful and non-offensive to people as it can get. There's no reason to really use the reputation feature in those threads over and over again since those threads aren't offending or don't have much to do with hockey talk typically.

None, as they're all US born. Isn't there enough glow in Canada to bask in? Nevermind that the teams went 1-1 in the tournament and the second game was close enough that either team could have taken it at any second, let's talk about how inferior the US team was. Christ.

Ya think? I just checked my profile and it's at nearly -70. Now am I crying about that or sending out a campaign to get + reps? No. I could really care less about reputation or status on here, and I'm not going to rate people's rep on here with the +/- thingy. Doesn't really matter to me, you are who you are and my rating isn't going to change that. I just find it funny, and a bit sad, that I am that low and am garnering so much attention. I'm all for a playful joke or ribbing here and there and that's where the rep thingy can be a bit of fun, but come on, -70 in a matter of a day? You have to be an absolute d**khead to do that, and I know I'm not that kinda person 24-7. The only way it got to that is somebody/some people having too much fun or for whatever reason just not liking me or having a personal vendetta. Do you really care that badly about reputation or putting somebody down? You really think this will make you that much cooler or accepted? Are you really this pitiful?

You want some too?

Nobody is going to have a high reputation. We all freaking hate each other here. Well, maybe the mods will from a sucking up standpoint.

Yeah, I'm afraid of that. Unlike Kirk Maltby, I realize that my agitating days may be over.

What will a bronze membership look like and I can I have mine?

Speaking of reputation, whatever happened to that "most irritating poster" poll that you started several months ago?

Back to 0.

Haha, I have a better reputation than you. That's what you get for being a dick around here.