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So Justin was at Lou Ha's last night - I was sporting my vintage wings shirt that I bought down the street at Dean Miller's store (Ryan and Drew's dad), and he was kind enough to chill with me while having a few drinks. A couple of points you guys might be interested in - I asked him what he expects to make in his new contract and he said somewhere just under a mil. I asked him how he communicates with his agent when getting a deal done and he basically says that he stays out of it but you just pretty much compare yourself to other guys in the league. So then I continued to tell him how I think its bulls*** that I beat him a few years back (he remembered we killed them 8-2) and now he's about to be a millionaire and i'm stuck making around 10 grand a year being a s***ty part time waiter. He laughed. So then I asked him what happens to him if the wings end up signing Modano. He said that he probably wont get as much at that point, around 800k, but that he'll be signing no matter what and he's not really thinking about it cus he's basically just waiting. I also asked him if he ever goes online to read message board posts (since I know we've have a few threads asking that question) and he goes definitely not and kind of laughed. I told him that most everything I read everyone gets a boner cus they expect you to be a huge fighter as he gets older. So I asked him if Holland and Co ever sit him down to talk about an "enforcer" role and he said no. Its all up to him, he just fights when he feels like it and there is never any talk about him bulking up or getting in more fights. I also asked if Illitch and the family are as awesome to the players as us wing fans like to believe and he said that really they are. He stressed that he's heard other players make comments about it before. He went on to tell me a little bit about how surreal it is for him to be playing for the wings since he grew up being a fan of them. I could only imagine just how surreal it must be. I meant to ask him if he knew anything about Helm's situation but I forgot. All in all it was a cool convo. Hopefully it peaked some of your curiosities. Ok, and side note about O'hallaran - My girlfriend lives in the same neighborhood as O'hallaran (sp?) but she would never tell me what house is his because she knew I would do nice things like mow his lawn, or unexpectedly clean his car. Anyways, apparently her other family members who also live across the street from him think he's a huge jerk for other reasons and they just got in another fight with him. So she got pissed off and went and showed me his house. So i was just wondering - should I post the guys address so people can send him nice letter's of appreciation or maybe leave thoughtfully paper bagged wrapped presents on his front porch? Or would this be in poor taste?

At the 1:37 mark... Atta boy #19

I'm going to make a common sense judgement call here and say that you should not post O'Halloran's address here unless you have his express permission to do so. This is a public forum. Since people don't have to join the forums to read threads, you would be broadcasting the home address of an NHL referee to basically the entire world. (LGW threads can even be brought up in Google searches). So even though LGW members might not do anything extreme, you can't deny that there are some *crazy* people out there who might. Do you really want to risk someone doing something stupid and hurting him (or God forbid, his family) because you got upset over a blown call in a stupid hockey game? I damn sure wouldn't want that on MY conscience. Awesome story about Abs, though. Good to get some insight on how he's feeling with the Modano situation being dragged out.

You can find instructions on how to build homemade bombs, but that doesn't mean you should post them here "just because if someone were to go to those lengths they wouldn't need your help". Yes, I know that's an apples-to-oranges argument, so let me put it a bit simpler. Just because they might not "need your help", why make it any easier? That said, I'm going to reinforce my original point, a bit more forcefully. (I hate to come across as being short, but unfortunately it needs to be done). *DO NOT* post his address on LGW. Unless you can prove to Matt or one of the Mods that you have his express permission to do so.

I don't know what is more ridiculous; the goal celebration or the "soccer" arguement.

Post his address on 4chan and claim he tortured a cat. They'll do all the dirty work for us.

:rotflmao: So the Cooke hit on Savard wasn't head-hunting,eh? The Richards hit on Booth wasn't head-hunting? Like i said, it doesn't happen a lot, but head-hunting in the NHL will always exist. Only a few teams carry enforcers?? *New York Rangers: Derek Boogaard, Brandon Prust *New York Islanders: Zenon Konopka, Trevor Gillies *Philadelphia Flyers: Jody Shelley (Some people wouldnt consider Carcillo and Walker as enforcers, but they cause hell as well,so look at it as you will) *Pittsburgh Penguins-Mike Rupp, Eric Godard New Jersey Devils-Pierre Luc Letourneau-Leblond *Buffalo Sabres-Cody McCormick *Ottawa Senators-Matt Carkner, Chris Neil *Montreal Canadiens- Well since Laraque was bought out, i'm sure they'll pick someone else up before the start of the sesason. *Boston Bruins- Shawn Thornton (Gregory Campbell will cause hell, but i wouldn't consider him an enforcer) *Toronto Maple Leafs-Colton Orr,Mike Brown,Jay Rosehill looks like he'll get more playing time. *Washington-Newly acquired D.J. King *Carolina-Looks like Kostopoulos is gonna be doing most of their dirty work, minor leaguers could be brought up *Florida-Mike Duco(Played mostly in the AHL last year) *Tampa Bay-Mitch Fritz (Nate Thompson,Steve Downie,and Mathieu Roy will cause hell, but i wouldn't consider any of them enforcers) *Atlanta Thrashers-Eric Boulton, Chris Thorburn, Ben Eager, Boris Valabik *Nashville Predators-Wade Belak (Jordin Tootoo) *St. Louis Blues-Cam Janssen, B.J. Crombeen, Brad Winchester *Detroit Red Wings- Kenny tends to pick someone up right before the beginning of the season *Columbus Blue Jackets-Jared Boll, Derek Dorsett *Chicago Blackhawks-John Scott *Vancouver Canucks-Rick Rypien, Tanner Glass, Darcy Hordichuk *Edmonton Oilers-Zack Stortini, Steve MacIntyre, Jim Vandermeer (Colin Fraser, Jason Strudwick, and Theo Peckham will mix it up as well) *Minnesota Wild-Brad Staubitz (Eric Nystrom isnt gonna shy away either) *Colorado Avalanche-David Koci, Cody McLeod *Calgary Flames-Tim Jackman, Raitis Ivanans (Ryan Stone as well) *Dallas Stars- Krys Barch, Adam Burish, Brian Sutherby *Phoenix Coyotes- Paul Bissonnette *Los Angeles Kings-Richard Clune *San Jose Sharks-Frazer McLaren (Jay Leach and Kent Huskins will mix it up as well) *Anaheim Ducks-George Parros, Kyle Chipchura, Sheldon Brookbank, Aaron Voros "Only a few teams" carry enforcers..That's a great one

Mate, get your facts right before you go on an ignorant rant. The full name of the sport is Association Football. In the 19th century the sport became extremely popular amongst the working class. The upper class preferred to play Rugby Football (aka Rugby Union). They referred to Association Football as "Soccer" as an insult, sneering and looking down their noses as they did so. That's why brits especially get their noses so put out of joint when people start calling it Soccer. That snobbery still exists today at certain schools, some of which only have a Rugby XV and no football team, or you're not allowed to play for the football team unless you are in the Rugby team. Toby - you were nearly right.

WHAT THE HELL?? I think at the 1:30 mark, 2 guys run in, separately, and jiggle a player's "business". And people think Hudler's "cluck" is weird. He's got nothing on that. This goal celebration brought to you by UPS! Let us handle your package!

That would be reason 2589714301293572314123094123894723512893057 I hate SOCCER (notice I put soccer in caps lock because people for some reason say futbol and go out of their way to correct North Americans when they say soccer, even though the game was originally called soccer, but was given the nickname "futbol" by lower class citizens in England)

It's summer and boredom is killing us all, i was just thinking on who's gonna replace lidstrom when he retires, he will free up alot of space.. i can only think of a few worthy young replacements, they can't just hope ericsson will become a superstar all of a sudden, what's the Free agent class for next summer? -Weber -Doughty Both are RFA though and Nashville even though they're a poor club will probably match anyway, but what if detroit offers him a 10year deal 8million early on and a caphit of 6.8 or something... Doughty will probably get a massive deal too...

"What do you mean 'they'?"

In all honesty...If there was someone out there who would go through the lengths to do something drastic to him or his family, they wouldn't need my help. It would already be done. With that being said, if the worst that happened was he got some hate mail out of it, his yard teepeed, his porch shat on, or even his car keyed....i wouldn't lose sleep over it. just sayin.

Kevin Bieksa would be a solid pickup for Detroit.Is this Rafalski's last year of his contract too?

haha nice...don't forget the high sticks either on the point shots "...in the early days of the sport among the upper echelons of British society, the proper term for the sport was “Soccer”. Not only that, but the sport being referred to as “Soccer” preceded the first recorded instance of it being called by the singular word “Football” by about 18 years. This happening when it became more popular with the middle and lower class. When that happened, the term “Football” gradually began dominating over “Soccer” and the then official name “Association Football”." thus proving my original point... To answer your second question, I am assume somebody +1'd me because they found my post entertaining. They didn't get their panties in a bunch because of something said (partly as a joke) on a message board

Still don't understand your excitement about this guy. I'm Russian... so I always prefer skill rather than brute and stupid force. So Lids or Zubie for me rather than Stevens. That is one of the reasons I'm a fan of the Red Wings.

stop this s*** already. All his "punishing" hits came from the right arm would you like me to hit you in the head? It is not hockey. It is something different.

It does not matter to me who is going to be inducted to HOF after Bob Gainey. Scott Stevens did have some skill, some of his hits were indeed made according to rules. PS Who is that Red Wing? Mark How? ))

are you blind or what? Would you like Boogard headhunting Zetterberg? Boll headhunting Filppula? I'm glad NHL removed this s*** from the best game in the world.

No. Similarly to those in NA saying FedErov, NabAkov, etc.

Instead of using some random link to prove your point, how about just admitting you were wrong? Oh and if you want to use links - how about this one?

I had a pretty witty response to your last post and tho I felt like it was pretty PG rated - someone decided to get all FCC on it. In any case....you obviously haven't seen me post his address, so no reason to get all Dad about it.

Fortunately for me (hypothetically of course) Addresses are public record. There would be absolutely no legal recourse for them to take on me. Knowing the law is your friend

I'll probably play along and not post it long enough until he makes another bulls*** call. I might have a change of heart by then. Also, that doesn't mean I wont have my own biddings to do. I feel like I owe Red Wings nation a little redemption. He actually was gonna go into a whole explanation about RFA's but I told him I knew most of it already and frankly the stuff kind of bores me so I told him not to bother. I'm sure he knew the exact amount but was probably just roughing it for me after that.