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Yzerman is 6th all time scoring in NHL history,one of 3 players to ever score 155 points in a season (guess who the other two are), three Stanley Cups, Pearson, Conn Smythe, Selke, and an Olympic Gold Medal. People talk about how much more Lemieux would have done without the bad back and cancer. Wonder what Yzerman would've done with a good knee for the last 15 years of his career. 30-40 seems a bit low. This just in, Stevie gives Canada the Order of Yzerman. Country bows and feels unworthy.

Damn you Derek Meech.

Sorry, Sir. I have to neg you for that comment.

Obvious troll is still a troll

So I was reading that Mario was inducted into the order of Canada yesterday and it got me to thinkin about Stevie. I want to take nothing away from Mario because I became a big fan of his later in his career but I dont know if he deserves this honor and if he does then Stevie certainly also deserves to get it. Some fans will remember that Mario refused to play for Canada MANY times in his career and played his entire career in the US. When its all said and done Stevie has more career points, more World Championship and Olympic medals, more Stanley Cups and also managed the team that just won the Gold in Vancouver.

I hear the organization really knows how to take care of its players too. Gotta love mike. Hes a loyal guy and treats players like family. What else could you ask for as a player?

I had a horrible nightmare the other night, first preseason game just when kronner felt good and had his knee fixed he left for the dressingroom with severe shoulderpain and had to get surgery and on the IR for several months...man was i happy that it was just a horrible dream...

"Filppula makes the pass" = "Filppula syöttää" -----> "Filppula makes the pass and Pulkkinen scores the goal!" = "Filppula syöttää ja Pulkkinen tekee maalin!" "Ilari screens the goalie!" = " Ilari tekee maskia!" I hope you undertand.

Snap.

that's exactly why no one cried when people started to hit him in the head. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tylu3vEWwE4 it does not matter how big you are.

I think they're pretty even. I do believe Lemieux minus his injuries would have been the best. He was better naturally then Gretzky, but Yzerman is definitely in the top 5. But when you look at the whole picture, not just their total points, but their entire skill set, it becomes much harder. I'd rather have Yzerman if I had a team with a lot of other players who could score, and needed more D and Leadership. I'd rather have Lemieux if I had a team that was solid defensively and just needed someone to come in and score goals. As for the Messier mention above, I'd never want Madonna Messier on my team. It's an insult to all leaders in the NHL that the trophy for Leadership is named after that *******.

I'm not... there's still several weeks to go before pucks start dropping and nothing else in the news.

I wouldnt argue with anyone who said Mario was a better offensive player but even that argument is close. As far as defensive play,face-offs and leadeship thats where it isnt close. Steve was 1000 times better than Mario in those areas.

They're looking at something like this. Kunitz-Marketing Tool-Dupuis Talbot-Malkin-Comrie Cooke-Staal-Kennedy Rupp-Adams-Godard Martin-Michalek Orpik-Letang Goligoski-Lovejoy Fleury

The last of the Russian 5

I have a #13 jersey that doesn't say Datsyuk.

That sucks. I hate it when NHL caliber players can't find a spot in the NHL. Thanks for the memories, Kozzie.

That's too bad. He was a great wing, lots of great memories. Cheers Kozzie.

No problem with kronner! they found the problem, fixed it, and it doesnt seem like he will miss training camp http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2010/08/red_wings_defenseman_niklas_kr_1.html

Agreed. If that. I mean seriously, Lemieux is 1-4 all time, Yzerman is top30-40. As for Steve Y better defensively? Who cares? Lemieux is so much better offensively that his defense is irrelevant. The other team prayed they do not get scored on. Mario is up there with Gordie Howe. And do not forget - Yzerman was great defensively when he scored around 80 points, he was not good defensively when he was in his offensive prime. But since this is LGW and most people are Yzerman worshipers, we are gonna get a lot of neg points.

Lemieux was 5x the player as Yzerman ever was.

Yeah that might be hyperbole. Maybe 4 times better. That sounds pretty good.

Yes, someone with a different opinion than yours is a troll. Got it.