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I'm sure they actually played a game after that.

They're Canadian I guess. Hockey is... I want to say like a religion but it's probably even greater than a religion. Maybe a cult but it's even greater than a cult. Doesn't seem like a word exists to describe how much hockey means to them. Weren't you here around the time of the Olympics last year? Many of them were easygoing and friendly. All of a sudden the Olympics comes and they're all, "f*** y'all *******!"

I think Osgood's a lock for the Hall of Fame. They're not going to keep a 400 win goalie out with 3 Cup rings and multiple all star game appearances. Rafters? Who knows. It's anyone's guess at this point. I think there's more reasons to think he'll be up there than reasons why he won't to be honest, but there still may not be enough reasons to get it up there. What I think will be interesting to see is how the fan base regards Osgood 5-10 years after he retires. I've always felt with Osgood that it's a "you don't know what you've got 'til it's gone" situation. He's taken for granted around here, and many newer fans don't remember just how good he was in his prime. Maybe if he was more of a nutjob he'd get more accolades, but I think he's a bit to down to earth to get the media attention necessary while around to be considered a big time goalie. The reality of the matter is though that by all the numbers and all the Cups, he's one of the best goalies in the league over the last 20 years. He really is among an elite group of championship goalies with Roy and Brodeur. Even Hasek only won one Cup, and he's an all time great...

Osgood is currently tied at 314 with Jacques Plante for fourth all-time for most wins with a single team. The goalies ahead? Martin Brodeur, Tony Esposito, and Terry Sawchuk. He is one of only nine goaltenders to win 300 games with a single team, something that was not done by the following, among others: Patrick Roy Dominik Hasek Glenn Hall Grant Fuhr Gump Worsley Osgood's win total with the Wings alone would place him 19th on the All-time list instead of his current #10 ranking. Osgood was one of the five best goaltenders in the world in his prime. Competing with, among others, three goaltenders who all are argued as the best ever. This isn't Holmstrom or Draper we're talking about. Osgood for a long period was a top notch goaltender in the NHL. He deserves his jersey number to be retired. And as for you who say no HHOF? Are you ******* serious? A 400-win goalie and model citizen is not getting into the HHOF? Dino eventually got in even though he was blackballed by Bowman. He was good but not as good as Osgood.

#5 will be there.. Shanahan, Fedorov were great players but you've gotta be someone really really special to hang in the rafters in JLA...this isn't the pepsi center in denver, colorado.

jim hughson and bob miller mickey is probably my favorite color guy though

Detroit needs a wide goal edge.

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Verify range to target. One PING only... What. A. Shot.

now we need to get this guy going:

i think Raffy must have knocked his thong loose.

I find it ironic that you would rather a hockey team fight than actually focus on playing hockey.

Put that s*** up there...Ozzy deserves it. islanders

nothing wrong with cherry hes acually a pretty smart guy. Say what you want haters!

Arguably, because he is THE best of all time... there is always a lot of debate about this, but I would put Orr behind Lidstrom on said list...

How many professional games has he played? Hasn't earned that moniker yet. Last time you should probably be doing that one

That's not a debate. That's a couple of idiots spouting insanities. What is occurring in this thread is a debate. Go ahead and post a thread asking whether Lidstrom should have his number retired and see the differences. They would be striking.

points mean everything

that was quite awesome

The simple fact that we are having this debate means that #30 should not be retired. Retiring a number should be a rare occurrence reserved for the absolute best to ever play for that team. The Red Wings are not an organization that retires numbers willy-nilly, unlike some teams. Was there a debate for #19? No. Will there be a debate for #5? No. The next player on the team to have a chance at having his number retired, after Lidstrom, is Zetterberg.

So is the hockey game before or after the circus?

Nice. Are you going to come back tomorrow if they win and admit you were wrong? I didn't think so.

You forgot to tell him that he smells.

I'm busy counting how many time people have told you to wake up and realize what Larsson did was incredibly stupid. It's definitely been more than two.

I'm hoping for a game played on Lake Superior between Michigan Tech and Northern Michigan. It would be called the Gitchigumi Heritage Classic.