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    GMRwings1983

    Trevor Gillies

    Wouldn't mind having this guy on our team someday. And no, I'm not kidding.
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    ben_usmc

    Wings Playoff/Cup chances?

    I think everyone is just to scared to just say it: We are gonna f*** some s*** up this playoffs and win the cup
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    SpIkE

    3/3 GDT: Red Wings 1 at Sharks 3

    Not seeing Franzen in the line-up, but now that I think about it I haven't seen him in about 17 games or so...
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    Official Game Day Thread - - Tonight's Matchup - - VS. Start time: 10:30 EST HP Pavilion - San Jose, CA Available On: Tonight's Stream http://www.letsgowings.com/forums/index.php/user/15741-drumnj/ (Directions in profile) Official Game Preview: Red Wings look for revenge against Sharks - - - *Opposition GDT* From HF Boards - - - News from around the NHL Grabner named "Rookie of the Month" Flames' Morrison suffers injury Sabres desperate for points Western Conference Standings RED WINGS 64 GP, 39-18-7, 85 pts Last Game: Lost to ANA 2-1 (OT) SHARKS 64 GP, 37-21-6, 80 pts Last Game: Defeated COL 3-2 Last DET-SJ Meeting: 2/22, SJ 4 at DET 3 Recap - LGW GDT Highlights Goals DET Johan Franzen: 26 SJ Logan Couture: 25 Assists DET Henrik Zetterberg: 51 SJ Joe Thornton: 37 Plus/Minus DET Pavel Datsyuk, Brian Rafalski: +14 SJ Logan Couture: +17 ---- DET Mike Modano, Todd Bertuzzi: -3 SJ Patrick Marleau: -12 PIM DET Jonathan Ericsson: 73 SJ Jamal Mayers: 107 Hudler-Datsyuk-Cleary Draper-Zetterberg-Bertuzzi Filppula-Modano-Holmstrom Abdelkader-Helm-Miller Lidstrom-Stuart Ericsson-Kronwall Kindl-Salei Projected SJ Lines Clowe-Marleau-Heatley Couture-Thornton-Setoguchi Eagar-Pavelski-Wellwood Nichol-Mayers-Mitchell White-Wallin Murray-Boyle Vlasic-Demers Joey MacDonald Record: 3-3-1, 2.39 GAA, .914 SV%, 2 SO ---- versus. ---- Antti Niemi Record: 24-15-3, 2.40 GAA, .919V%, 5 SO RED WINGS Patrick Eaves (knee) out, Brian Rafalski (back spasms) probable, Chris Osgood (groin) out ---- SHARKS Ben Eagar (upper body) questionable, Dan Boyle (upper body) doubtful, Antero Nittymaki (groin) out, Kent Huskins (upper body) out, Scott Nichol (wrist) out On Deck 3/5, Red Wings at Coyotes ; 8:00 EST
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    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/03/sports/hockey/03fighter.html?ref=sports March 2, 2011 Hockey Brawler Paid Price, With Brain Trauma By ALAN SCHWARZ TECUMSEH, Ontario — For 16 seasons, Bob Probert’s fists were two of hockey’s most notorious weapons, winning most of his 246 fights and feeding the N.H.L.’s fondness for bare-knuckle brawling. But the legacy of Probert, who died last July of heart failure at 45, could soon be rooted as much in his head as his hands. After examining Probert’s brain tissue, researchers at Boston University said this week that they found the same degenerative disease, chronic traumatic encephalopathy, whose presence in more than 20 deceased professional football players has prompted the National Football League to change some rules and policies in an effort to limit dangerous head impacts. Although the National Hockey League has taken steps recently to reduce brain trauma — banning blindside hits to the head, for example — it has nonetheless continued to allow the fighting that some say is part of the sport’s tradition and appeal. Teams continue to employ and reward players like Probert, who are known as enforcers because of how they intimidate opponents. Hockey’s enduring tolerance for and celebration of fighting will almost certainly be tested anew now that Probert, more pugilist than playmaker, has become the first contemporary hockey player to show C.T.E. after death. Boston University’s Center for the Study of Traumatic Encephalopathy had previously diagnosed the disease in a long-retired player, Reggie Fleming, a 1960s-era enforcer who played before the full adoption of helmets. “How much is the hockey and how much is the fighting, we don’t really know,” said Dr. Robert Cantu, co-director of the Boston University center and a prominent neurosurgeon in the area of head trauma in sports. “We haven’t definitely established that the skills of hockey as a sport lead to a certain percentage of participants developing C.T.E. But it can happen to hockey players, and while they’re still relatively young.” Donald Fehr, the executive director of the players union, said the findings on Probert could not be taken lightly. “Obviously, when you have a finding like this, it raises concerns and it bears serious examination,” Fehr said. “My impression is that the players want the best medical and scientific evidence that they can find so they make their decisions. They’re not looking to hide from the data. I don’t think anyone in hockey is looking to hide from the data.” When informed of the Probert finding, Bill Daly, deputy commissioner of N.H.L., said he could not comment beyond his immediate reaction: “We’re aware of what B.U. is doing, and we’ve met with them before,” Daly said. “It’s interesting science. We have interest in it. To the extent that the science itself starts to suggest certain conclusions, obviously we’re open to accepting that and addressing that moving forward. But we can’t take steps tomorrow based on what we’re finding out today.” Some of the league’s top players, including the Pittsburgh Penguins’ Sidney Crosby, have missed significant time this season after sustaining concussions in the course of play. Commissioner Gary Bettman said earlier this year that concussions resulting from fights had increased. Probert was not the average player — he reveled in extremes both on and off the ice, primarily in fighting, drinking heavily and embracing other physical risks. Probert’s posthumous autobiography, “Tough Guy,” gleefully offers details of his 3,300 career penalty minutes — fifth in N.H.L. history — and recounts so many brawls with enforcers like Tie Domi and Marty McSorley that it requires 11 pages to list them all. He scored 163 goals in his career from 1985 through 2002, for the Detroit Red Wings and the Chicago Blackhawks, but was so known for his fighting that a 2007 Hockey News poll rated him the greatest enforcer in hockey history. Probert drank heavily beginning in his youth in Windsor, Ontario, and he used cocaine to the point that he served 90 days in a Minnesota prison and was suspended by the N.H.L. multiple times, including for the entire 1994-95 season. His police record included driving citations, bar fights and assaults on police officers. While boating last July 5 on Lake St. Clair, near his home in Tecumseh, Probert collapsed and died of heart failure, including an 80 percent blockage of the left coronary artery. Many athletes later found with C.T.E. — whose test for abnormal protein deposits in brain tissue can be administered only after death — presented symptoms like drug abuse, impulse control and impaired memory only in the years before they died, suggesting that the disease contributed to it. Probert’s case is considerably more difficult to interpret, Cantu said, because of his history. Cantu and other Boston University researchers declined to discuss any further specifics regarding Probert before publication in an academic journal. Probert’s widow, Dani, said in an interview at their home on Tuesday that the B.U. group had said that her husband’s C.T.E. was less developed than that found in most football players of similar age. She added that in his final few years, Probert exhibited some behavior uncharacteristic to him, especially memory loss and a tendency to lose his temper while driving. Cantu, while not speaking about Probert’s substance abuse specifically, also emphasized that “as of now, the medical community is not aware that any drug abuse, including alcohol, leads to” chronic traumatic encephalopathy. Dani Probert said that her husband was aware of growing concern about C.T.E. among athletes in contact sports, and that they had discussed it soon before he died after a “60 Minutes” feature on the subject. “I remember joking with him, ‘Wouldn’t your brain make a nice specimen?’ ” she said. “He started questioning whether he would have it himself. He told me that he wanted to donate his brain to the research when he died. Who would have thought that six months later it would be happening?” Chris Nowinski, a co-director of the Boston University research group, said that 10 other professional hockey players, almost all of whom played in the N.H.L., had pledged to donate their brains upon death. More than 100 professional football players have done the same, including Dave Duerson, the former Chicago Bears star and players union official who committed suicide two weeks ago. Keith Primeau, who played with Probert in Detroit for several seasons in the early 1990s, arranged to donate his brain several months ago. Primeau sustained four documented concussions during his career but said in a telephone interview that he might have incurred others in fights that he did not recognize at the time. “I was buckled a couple of times from a blow to the chin,” said Primeau, who had 98 fights in 15 N.H.L. seasons. “I don’t think it contributed to my overall concussion situation, but I wouldn’t discount it, either.” Dani Probert said she learned of her husband’s having C.T.E. in early January but only recently became comfortable acknowledging it publicly. She said she would begin encouraging other hockey players to donate their brains, and raising awareness about the possible health risks of sports-related head trauma. “In my heart of hearts, I don’t believe fighting is what did this to Bob,” she said. “It was hockey — all the checking and hits, things like that.” She said those words just feet from a huge painting of Bob Probert that hangs in tribute to his hockey career. He is shown punching an opponent. On the canvas is scrawled a message from the artist: “Gladiator as depicted by the Romans is a professional combatant or captive who entertains the public by engaging in combat. When it’s done for your team and your city, you’re known as a hero.” Jeff Z. Klein contributed reporting.
  6. 1 point
    Grypho

    3/3 GDT: Red Wings 1 at Sharks 3

    Hello again Wings fans, it's good to be back on LGW. I absolutely don't get the stomp predictions. That last game was CLOSE, nearly tied toward the end, and could easily have gone either way. Boyle, Huskins and Nichols are out for San Jose, and we desperately need good D against Detroit, so no prediction here. Also, JMac knows he has something to prove, and I think he will do fine. Plus, the last regular season game between us, and the visiting team has won each so far. Both teams are looking very strong as everyone vies for berths going into the home stretch. The Sharks are 5 points behind the Wings as of now, so tonight's game is big both ways, and that makes for some great hockey! A regulation win for the Wings would stretch their lead to 7, making it that much harder for us to catch up. I actually don't care that much one way or the other. As long as nobody catches the Sharks from behind, and we're one of the top three, I'm more than happy. I have to say that I do love the Sharks/Wings rivalry (HATE the Sharks/Stars rivalry), but the idea that we wouldn't have to face the Wings in the first round pleases me to no end! Sharks are on a str**k (not allowed to say the word while we're on one), but all str**ks come to an end. I hope it's not tonight, but dem's da breaks if it does. GAME ON IN A HALF HOUR, GO SHARKS!
  7. 1 point
    edicius

    Wings Playoff/Cup chances?

    I honestly don't see us getting out of the 2nd round...and even that depends on who we draw in the 1st round. Everyone else is going to tighten up their D, but we'll still be giving up at least 3 goals a game. Just a feeling.
  8. 1 point
    esteef

    Trevor Gillies

    If repeat offender even plays into it at all, Matt Cooke's minimum suspension should've started at 20 games years ago. He is the definition of a repeat offender with way more infractions (called or not) than Gillies yet he gets puny suspensions. But hey, he chips in pucks every now and then so he's all good. Das Boooools***. esteef
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    I hope not. I think fighting is exciting and one of the things that makes hockey at the pro level so unique. These guys get paid tons of money to put their bodies at risk and are by no means forced to fight. It's a dangerous profession - just like the military or being a fire fighter or police officer, except hockey players probably have a lot more fun and get paid 100 times more. Fighting actually reached it's height in the 80s, saw it's low immediately after the lockout and has actually been steadily increasing since then.
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    WorkingOvertime

    Trevor Gillies

    Leino just tripped Schenn on an icing, sending him in to the boards. I thought the league was trying to come down on this dangerous play a few years ago. There will be no suspension or anything (shouldn't be IMO) but the play is easily as dangerous as Gillies. The difference is no one here would call for a suspension because Leino is a "skill player". The Gillies hit was dirty, there is no arguing that. My problem is that he will get a big suspension from it while similar hits will happen with no league intervention. This is targeting the name on the sweater and not the offense. This is evidenced by Cal getting the benefit of the doubt for his hit from behind. If anyone sees any homerism in my posts, please point it out. This situation is similar to Malkin having his instigator recinded in the playoffs a couple years ago. People complained because they thought the league recinded the penalty because Malkin is a star player. To me this falls under the same argument but posters here are less likely to support a lesser suspension because Gillies is an enforcer.
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    Most concussions happen from hits not punches. Let's get hitting out of hockey. esteef
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    esteef

    3/3 GDT: Red Wings 1 at Sharks 3

    Tell me about it! esteef
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    55fan

    Wings Playoff/Cup chances?

    1966-present: Wings will win the Cup! Lions will win the Superbowl! Seriously, 2008 was the only time that I felt that it was destiny. Something about Mac coming back felt Kharmic.
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    Guest

    Wings Playoff/Cup chances?

    just like last year when the wings GA/G went up from 2.50 to 2.75, right? ...oh wait.
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    Reds4Life

    Wings Playoff/Cup chances?

    Not good. Defense is horrible compared to Red Wings standard. Way too much time is spent in our end, and Howard is not exactly playing great either. Barring a complete defensive turnaround, Wings have very little chance, if any, of winning the Cup. Also, it does not help that Modano MUST be on the roster. He is not a very good player anymore and the younger guys at least provide more energy.
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    Mabuhay Red Wings

    Eddie Bo Johan

    Swedes.
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    Theophany

    Osgood aiming for March 9 return

    Ozzie comes back the 9th, plays decently well, Babcock decides to go with him in the playoffs, we win the Cup, Ozzie gets the Conn Smythe. Millions of Ozzie haters everywhere cry as Ozzie becomes a lock for the HHOF. That's how this is going in my head.
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    That's a big negative ghost rider. So you're telling me Emmerton could go over to Finaland and win Player of the year? False.
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    I don't think you can blame the owners or gm, blame the agents for demanding so much money . Or blame the players union for jacking up salaries. Though I really don't think its anybody's fault other than the damn CBA, get rid of the salary cap now, what a shame to see quality players wasted like this
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    That's the most retarded thing I've read in a while. Crosby and Ovechkin represent the exception, not the norm. Of the first 30 guys selected each year maybe 2 or 3 will never play a game in the AHL, CHL or another minor league*. Add in all the other rounds and you can safely say more than 95% of the players drafted will play in the minors (both pro and amateur). It's not uncommon to see top 5 picks play in the AHL for a time... it all depends on what their team's status is (garbage or loaded with talent) and how physically ready they are for the NHL. So in summary-- the AHL is hardly a holder pen for fringe prospects. Most of the young NHL players who enter the league cut their teeth in the AHL. Edit: *Condsider that some guys who start on their team's NHL roster at 18 end up playing in the AHL for a time at some point (see: Edmonton this season)
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    Hi, First post here. Basically posting to say I agree with you. If anyone is going to get the spot (if there is only one) I have a feeling its going to be Mursak. He's got everything they need, not to mention the kid has some speed on him. In the few games he did play, I thought he showed great potential when he was brought up. I'm excited to see more out of him.
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    esteef

    Life of an NHLer Stashed in the AHL

    Wait a minute, Commodore lifts weights? esteef
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    Aussie_Wing

    Ritola has inner ear disease

    Okay dude.