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2020 Draft Thread
town123 and one other reacted to ChristopherReevesLegs for a post in a topic
You should always draft BPA. BPA is Rossi. /thread -
1 pointLOL you don't engage me because I make you look like a complete jackass every time you do... Where to even begin here... Except for the fact that Ottawa's board may be (likely is) very different from "everyone" else's board... How dumb do you have to be to think all teams draft the "consensus" best player available, according to Bob McKenzie's final draft rankings... Things are rarely ever "equal" though, and if Yzerman and co. believe that the playmaking winger will have more of an impact than the goal scoring winger, they take that player. The best player available to the Ottawa Senators may very well be Drysdale. And I know it's very difficult for you to comprehend this, but that does not necessarily mean that Drysdale would be the best player available for every other team. Maybe the Ottawa Senators are as dumb as you, and decide to draft based on need, rather than best player available (according to their board), and take Drysdale at 3... "generally considered"... Holy f*** dude, go read some more mock drafts you f***ing simpleton. I'm not going to ask you to stop replying to me, you do what you do, but if you are going to respond, please bring some common sense next time...
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1 pointNext year's draft class is heavy on defensemen. I'm sure Ottawa knows this. If Stutzle is really as good as every seems to think there's no way they pass on him for the RHD that everyone seems to agree is a tier below Stutzle. And if Stutzle ISN'T a tier above Drysdale, then he's not worth worrying about when we'll have our choice of Rossi or Perfetti. Yep, I'd rather have a goal scoring winger than a playmaking winger all things being equal. I would have thought that was clear by my original post. As for the rest of this drivel, if Ottawa is set on coming away from this draft with a forward and a defensemen I presume they'd rather take the best player available to them at 3, which is Stutzle, and then Sanderson (who is generally considered in the same tier as Drysdale). That way they'd be getting best overall player available to them and still fill their needs. Now, if you could stop replying to my posts that would be great. I ignored you a long time ago and I would generally be thrilled if I could just pretend you don't exist. I don't engage you for a reason.
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1 pointYep, I'm sure Raymond will turn out to be as good as those guys. Give me the guy everyone says is the best pure goal scorer in the draft class (Holtz) over the "if we're really really really really really really lucky he might be as good as Patrick Kane or Mitch Marner one day" guy (Raymond). As for your second point, you're literally saying the same thing I am. You're just too belligerent to know it. If Stutzle is generally as talented as the other guys you mentioned, enough so that other teams are willing to pass on him for them, then you don't really need to make any extra effort to incentivize them to do so.
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1 pointI don't understand this line of thinking. If Stutzle is so "meh" that a team would rather have Drysdale then why would we want him any more than anyone else available to us? If a team would rather NOT have Tim Stutzle, as opposed to Rossi, Raymond, or Perfetti then he's probably not much (or at all) better than them. And therefore he's probably not worth any additional effort. This is the same thing that happened with Zadina. Everyone assumed he was way better than other guys we could have taken because he had been more highly ranked all year. But he fell for a reason. We were all jumping for joy because we thought we got a top three talent. The reality is, he was never a top three talent and we would have been MUCH better off with Quinn Hughes, someone that NOBODY thought was a top three talent.
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2020 Draft Thread
F.Michael reacted to LeftWinger for a post in a topic
The Rangers are taking Drysdale 1st OA. -
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2020 Draft Thread
Wheelchairsuperhero reacted to kipwinger for a post in a topic
There's a good chance Ottawa wants Drysdale considering they have no decent right shot defensemen on their team or in their system. But I'm not sure they'll take him at three considering it's pretty obvious that Detroit is going to take a forward. We're already all set on right side defensemen. I suspect Ottawa nabs Stutzle at 3 and Drysdale at 5. -
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2020 Draft Thread
Wheelchairsuperhero reacted to kipwinger for a post in a topic
Same here. I think anybody who gets him is getting a playmaking winger. Not something I'd be targeting if I'm the at the Red Wings stage of the rebuild. But apparently he's family friends with Kris Draper, and apparently the Wings are all about nepotism these days, so I'm sure he'll be our guy. -
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2020 Draft Thread
Wheelchairsuperhero reacted to town123 for a post in a topic
And this one has us probably taking Rossi, which after watching his review on Scouching....count me in. https://www.nhl.com/news/2020-nhl-draft-mock-draft/c-318386968 -
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2020 Draft Thread
Wheelchairsuperhero reacted to mackel for a post in a topic
I still can't get over the fact the worst team in a generation is trying to read the tea leaves so they don't F-up the 4th over all pick. Meanwhile a team that was literally twice as good as they were picks first. -
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2020 Draft Thread
Wheelchairsuperhero reacted to Dabura for a post in a topic
Well, Bob McKenzie hasn't said it. It's more like whispers + some mock drafts going that way. https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/nhl-top-15-mock-draft-lafreniere-lands-new-york/ ^^^ Cam Robinson (mostly of Dobber Prospects, though I think he's trying to branch out) seems to be more dialed-in than most amateur scout blogger types, and while I suspect he's a dirty commie, I vaguely remember him being impressively ahead of the cuve about a few things re: the 2019 draft. If memory serves, he said Seider and Broberg would both go in the top ten and that the former would go before the latter. It's one of the reasons why I wasn't jaw-on-the-floor shocked when we took Seider at 6. So, I'd say there's probably something to the Perfetti-to-Detroit talk. But at the same time, I don't think him playing in Saginaw and the Wings liking him a lot necessarily means a whole lot. Quinn Hughes was at UMich in his draft season and we didn't take him. Maybe Yzerman likes Perfetti more than Holland liked Hughes, but you get my point. I guess I see Perfetti at 4 as a high-risk, high-reward proposition. The risk, I feel, is higher than I'd ideally like it to be, mostly because I don't like his straight-line skating and I don't like that he's a 5'10 guy whose straight-line skating I don't like. And I'm not confident he's an NHL centerman. But you'd be taking him for the potential payoff, and I do like the idea that he's a sleeper Datsyuk/Zetterberg/Pettersson. A player who's always the smartest guy on the ice, has an uncanny knack for slowing the game down, has great hands, is a great puck-protector, is lethal as a goal-scorer, is a lethal setup guy, always finds a way to manufacture offense, and is overall just a natural-born puck-possession beast. I've been saying Yzerman needs to find a way to cheat and beat the rebuild prison system and score some massive victories, like getting a Pettersson outside the top 3. I've also said I hope there's a non-top-3 player in this draft that Yzerman and his people are over-the-moon about in the same way that the Canucks were over-the-moon about Pettersson — and that, ideally, this player has x factor qualities which are (secretly) so off-the-charts good that even if several aspects of his game are always going to be somewhat deficient, he's so overpowered in other areas that he's able to become a hugely and uniquely effective gamebreaker. Like Pettersson.