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Stop. You're not even in favor of drafting Wallstedt and so this entire exercise is just annoying. At least the other guy believes what he's saying. You're just being a pain in the ass.

Blashill wont be around once the team is competitive again. The first time they make the playoffs, Blash is gone. Once a new HC is named, I expect new assistants to be brought in too.

2020: Markstrom, Talbot, Holtby 2019: Varlamov, Lehner, Talbot (Fleury would have been if not for the expansion draft and re-sign by Vegas) 2018: Halak, Lehner 2017: Ryan Miller Generational goalies are not available in free agency, I agree. Even elite ones are hard to come by unless you trade for them. But good, solid goaltenders, who can still backstop a Cup team are available every year in free agency.

There’s always some excuse to exclude him that nobody applies to other HoF worthy players. Nobody seems to want to exclude Yzerman from the HoF just because he was never better than Gretzky. Brendan Shanahan never won any individual hardware. Patrick Roy never played behind anything but a great team. Dynasty teams dragged Fuhr and Billy Smith to multiple Cup wins. Yet all of them get the benefit of the doubt.

Stanley Cup goalies and where they were drafted: 2021: Vasilevskiy (19), Price (5) 2020: Vasilevsliy (19), Bishop (85) 2019: Allen (34), Rask (21) 2018: Holtby (93), Fleury (1) 2017: Murray (83), Rinne (258) 2016: Murray (83), Jones (undrafted) 2015: Crawford(52), Bishop (85) 2014: Quick (72), Lundquist (205) 2013: Crawford (52), Rask (21) 2012: Quick (72), Brodeur (20) 1st round picks among finalists: 7/20 or 35% Top 10 picks: 2/20 or 10% 1st round picks among Cup winners: 2/20 or 10% Top 10 picks among Cup winners: 0, unless the Canadiens win this year Average draft position: 67 (3rd Round) But yeah. We gotta take a goalie at 6 to get to the promised land.

re: Petrotuzzi, ya just trade him to Boston for a pick, if that is where he intends on signing. re: Draft - I know all the hype with Wallstedt, but I feel it would be better to bolster the D and get a G with the 22nd. Hughes/Cossa. Cossa might end up being just as good as Wallstedt, but there's a chance a D at 22 won't be anywhere as good as Hughes. What Wallstedt and Hughes are BOTH gone by #6? re: Hof - What the hell isn't Pat Benatar in the Hall of Fame yet?!?! Come on Man!

I doubt it. If everyone knows he's holding out for Boston, no one has a reason to waste a pick to basically just talk to him. After Buffalo wasted a pick on Vesey, I don't see anyone else doing it.

1. To be fair, I did notice that Ozzie's win percentage was higher, but don't you think the team in front of him had a little bit to do with that? Win percentage is as much a team stat as it is a goalie stat. 2. Belfour did play in more games than Ozzie, but that's kind of my point. They played the same number of seasons, but Belfour played in 200+ more games. Why? Cuz Eddie was winning a Calder and Vezinas while Ozzie was riding the bench. Belfour was a phenom out of the gate. While Chicago was trading away Hasek because of Belfour (bad move BTW), Detroit was trading for Vernon because of Osgood. 3. Roy and Brodeur were generational talents. Ozzie doesn't belong in the same conversation. And both won Cups with less talented teams than what Ozzie had in front of him. 4. Ozzie was Smythe worthy in 08 for sure. But let's not pretend like he didn't have some playoff stinkers too. I just think that Belfour's career and personal achievements put him a step above Ozzie. All things considered, I don't think I'm wrong. Not saying your opinion about Osgood isn't valid, I just don't agree.

If he's so good why are there 10-11 guys ranked ahead of him on EVERY single prospect ranking? You keep saying there are no top end skaters but literally EVERY prospect ranking lists skaters and defensemen higher than Wallstedt. You're literally just making things up. There is not a single prospect ranking that doesn't have William Eklund (for example) listed as a better player than Jesper Wallstedt. NOT ONE.

Right, I got that. What I don't get is why this criteria matters to you in this case but you don't seem to favor using similar criteria when comparing others. You're also picking and choosing which metrics to emphasize without really explaining why. Why is Brendan Shanahan worthy of the Hall but not Dave Andreychuk when their career accomplishments are nearly identical? Why do Belfour's Jenning's Trophies matter more than Osgood's Stanley Cup advantage? And I'm genuinely not trying to single you out here. I'm just using this as an example because it happens with HoF debates every year. There's no objective why to evaluate these guys because the more criteria you use (stats, personal accomplishments, team success, longevity, etc. etc. etc.) the more trouble you'll have weighting each category properly. I say let anyone who's had a great, long, career into the HoF as an attaboy to them and then set the Hall up in such a way that the very best of the best are emphasized in line with their greatness. Nobody is going to confuse Gordie Howe with Dino Ciccarelli just because they're both in the HoF. The HoF is like any other museum. It's not like the Louvre doesn't accept paintings if they're not as good as a Monet. They just emphasize the Monet paintings, or the Mona Lisa, or whatever more than they do the others.

I doubt it. I don't get this at all. Blashill has had some of the worst NHL lineups in the modern NHL. He's a good coach with an awful roster. Why would Yzerman can him as soon as he builds up a respectable roster, and the team starts turning the corner? I mean, sure, it's possible that happens, but I just don't think Yzerman sees Blashill as a lame duck.

As a bit of an aside... I mostly agree with Tony Ferrari's takes on the centermen in question (while not fully agreeing with his rankings): 2021 NHL Draft Rankings: The Final Cut [Dobber Prospects]

No one is saying this but you. Bernier is here because he is a relatively cheap and competent goalie. This is a rebuilding team, so he fits in nicely for the time being. Literally no one has said anything about keeping him here long term or winning a Cup with him in net. There are, and will be, better options available if and when the team needs to upgrade. Bernier is a stopgap and isn't an improvement over Howard. I havent seen anyone say otherwise. That doesn't mean that this team has to draft a goalie at #6. It's not an either/or situation. There are other options.

Must've bribed the HoF committee with $1 million...

Hey makes a good 'Popeye' Doyle...

Gene Hackman is pretty good tho

Basketball sucks...