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It's all Stevie Y, and Mo is a product of him. That said Mo is a generational talent. I stand by that. He's 22 and arguably one of the best Dmen in the league. He's on pace to shatter hitting and blocked shot records. He also scores points if that matters. We drafted our own Chelios. 53 is going to end up in the rafters one day.

Bernier? Is that you?

I’m not sure most people outside of Detroit’s fan base are fully aware of what kind of s*** show Yzerman actually walked into. Amazing to see how much hate he was getting before the DeBrincate trade too. I think hes done an amazing job even without that, but obviously he hit a home run bringing him here.

He's solid. Youre going to like ASP, Wallinder, and Edvinsson too. Mark my words.

Yzerman is doing this rebuild in an under promise over deliver type way. He refuses to say the word playoff ....lol

And it insulates his young players. They can now join a team this isn't great - but also isn't complete garbage. And they can learn the life from guys like Staal, Sundqqvist, Ghostbear, Etc. Like you say, it also appeases the fans and ownership.... even if we know deep down Justin Holl and Bejn Chiarot arent going to bring us to the promise land. At least it feel like we're trying. But the biggest part for me is - you can't do this strategy unless your scouting iss VERY good. Obviously SY is confident in his own scouting and his staffs. If you are not you would have to go full scorched earth and pray forr a McDavid to save you. Instead we are going to take Seiders at #6 and Kaspers and #8. I also like thiss - beccause when we are back on top - NO ONE is going to be able to say we didnt earn it. We had no lottery luck, nothing handed to us, but the Wings are back and kicking your ass because we are jusst plain better than you.

He really is doing it the smart way. He’s appeasing ownership and fans (somewhat) by icing a better hockey club every year by means of his own picks really working out and acquiring these stop gaps like you said with full intention of moving them for picks and truly better pieces without handcuffing the future at all. A lot of GMs are out there playing checkers, this Yzerman mother f’r is playing chess

It's true - he needed multiple years just to offload Holland's garbage. We are still sitting on the Abby buyout. But I would say the 2022 offseaon was the firsst shift in a real direction. He's signing stop gaps still, but he's also signing stop gaps he knows he can flip at the deadline. He's being smart and avoiding full scorched earth - like Edmonton and Buffalo did - but also not commiting to term. He's relying on his scouts to find top5 players in the top20. Smart - and playing to advantage.

Considering that garbage that Yzerman inherited from Ken Holland. The team is definitely heading in the right direction.

Good point.

That was actually the motivation for this thread. I was thinking about the embarrassment of riches the Red Wings have aged 25 and under (Ras, Raymond, Berggren, Edvinsson, Kasper, Danielson, ASP, Mazur, Cossa, Lombardi, Wallinder, Sodorblom, Johansson, etc. etc. etc.) and I realized I hadn't even remembered Seider. He's the first truly elite player we've drafted since Zetterberg??? Maybe Larkin if we're being generous. It genuinely feels like it was a complete game changer though. I'll admit that personally I was not fully convinced SY was all that great of a GM when he was first hired. But after it became clear that Seider was an elite player (sometime during his stint with Rogle) my attitude about the entire organization changed. It seemed like we finally had something to build around.

I think it´s a combination. Seider, as a future top five d-man in the league, and Yzerman, as a successfull GM and player, both make players around the league believe in the redwings. Whereas in the last Holland times ppl only came to Detroit when they were too old and overpaid. You need good cornerstones as much as a competent GM to lure players into playing for you and luckily we have both and our team starts to be the place to be again. But I have to admit, that without Yzerman having the balls to pick Seider at #6 and recognizing what type of player he could be, it could have taken a lot longer to be where we are now.

I agree that Stevie Y changed it all. As soon as he made his triumphant return the air around the team immediately changed for the better. He preached patience but change happened quickly, firstly with the terrible Holland contracts. Then he made some seemingly simple but great trades, and his draft picks also seemed on point. Are all of his moves home runs? Of course not, as he even says it takes a lot of luck along the way, but he has one of if not the best hockey mind in the league and he’s sure to have more hits than misses. He’s making hockey exciting again in Detroit, heck I even just purchased my first Jersey since the Zetterberg one I bought in 2003. It’s a #93 DeBrincat jersey if anyone is wondering. Let’s f*cking gooooooooo

This guy just isn't progressing. But if he wants to be Brian Lashoff part 2, I have no problem with it.

Lester sucks monkey d**k..... d**t ban me

I would have to say Yzerman more so. Only because I do not think Holland would've drafted Mo at the #6. If he would've been drafting D, I see Holland still taking Broberg. If he was going forward, you would hope he would've gone with Zegras or Cozens, but he probably would've reached with Poulin or Holmstrom. Although Raymond came out firing, I think he still needs more time to see if he can be a 30-40 goal scorer. Simon is a stud, hopefully he spends only one more season in GR and makes the team soon! I also hope that Kasper and Danielson make a splash sooner rather that later, because I do believe the days of The Wings drafting in the top 10 are over. So (even though we've had the worst lottery luck in NHL lottery history) we'll never get to draft that #1 or #2 generational player. BUT, that being said, injuries play a huge role in a team's success, and although I am ready to have them turn the corner, I wouldn't mind having a shot at Cole Eiserman. So, IMO, Yzerman changed the direction with his surprising selection of Mo Seider and also dumping most of Holland's trash.

Dcat is our Tavares moment