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Michigan State Football = Detroit Lions

ah well. Didnt see the MSU choke job today but from what I heard, it was pretty brutal. Missing a lot of football lately due to work. Which may explain why I am not stressed out on weekends.

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...Ohio State-Michigan is going to be the biggest game of the year...

As it should be.

Michigan's got three tough games (MSU, PSU, Iowa), then three doormats (N'western, Ball State, IU). Ohio State's got doormats from here on out to Michigan (BGSU, MSU, IU, Minn, Ill, N'western). MSU is not exactly a tough game, but every five or six years something ridiculous happens (pass interference non-call, games that last 60 minutes and 2 seconds, etc.) and MSU wins. Threat to Michigan, yes; threat to OSU, no - not after a freshman running QB (Juice Williams) shredded them.

By the way, isn't it funny that MSU got pissed at Illinois for planting the flag? Notre Dame fans must be laughing their collective asses off after that one.

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By the way, isn't it funny that MSU got pissed at Illinois for planting the flag? Notre Dame fans must be laughing their collective asses off after that one.

Didn't that somehwhat prompt John L. slapping himself at the press conference? Lol.

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John L slapping himself was classic. I've said from day 1 that he isn't all there in the head.

I'm assuming a lack of discipline/mental errors is part of the MSU package right now, correct me if I am wrong though Spartan fans.

Reason I point that out is when John L. Smith used to coach at Louisivlle, his teams had very little discipline whatsoever, would always talk s**t etc.

I'll never forget when my school and Louisville were both in Conference USA, in the 2002 season. We were playing in Louisville that year, and unexpectedly beat them the year before pretty handily. Their players were talking so much crap in the public that they were going to dominate in 2002 and "take TCU behind the woodshed"

Louisville was favored by around 15 that game, and just kept making mental error after mental error. TCU dominated and led 38-6 at halftime, and if not for some Dave Ragone heroics in the 2nd half, it would've been more ugly. Final score was TCU 45-31. That game felt so good to win after Louisivlle players were making asses of themselves instead of just shutting their traps and just trying to do their jobs.

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Smith's Louisville teams were always known to be fairly undisciplined and penalty-prone. That has always been a big part of MSU's problem; why the Spartan brass would think Smith was going to fix that problem is beyond me.

MSU's other problem is that Lloyd Carr outrecruits the blue blazes out of them, for about 50 different reasons. MSU needs to bring in an alum to coach, the way a lot of successful schools have done. They wasted their shot at Ty Willingham. Just take a look at the successes of Al Groh, Ralph Friedgen, and Frank Beamer at their respective alma maters. I really believe alumni coaches have a recruiting edge, and they're not likely to pull a Nick Saban or a Dennis Franchione. They'll stay til they're fired.

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Eat it Corso, Eat it Saunders....suck my Buckeye.

It's a long way away, but I have tickets to what may be the biggest game in Ohio State-Michigan history.

You actually should celebrate if Corso doesn't pick your team. On college gameday he has only picked the game of the week right once this season (USC over NEB, and thats just common sense) Hes picked TEX over OSU, ND over Mich, Iowa over OSU, and MSU over ND.

I already know I'll be going to OSU/UM 2007 because we share season tickets and it will be my families turn! It will be the 1st OSU/UM game I've ever been to in the 28 U-M games I've attended.

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You actually should celebrate if Corso doesn't pick your team. On college gameday he has only picked the game of the week right once this season (USC over NEB, and thats just common sense) Hes picked TEX over OSU, ND over Mich, Iowa over OSU, and MSU over ND.

I already know I'll be going to OSU/UM 2007 because we share season tickets and it will be my families turn! It will be the 1st OSU/UM game I've ever been to in the 28 U-M games I've attended.

During the '97 championship season me and a bunch of my friends gathered every Saturday to watch Michigan play. Corso ("the old guy" as we affectionately referred to him) picked against Michigan every single week. when Michigan was included in his predictions. Including the Rose Bowl.

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It's just so annoying to listen to media talk. USC should be number one, no, Auburn should be number one, no, West Virginia is the best team in the history of college football.

Truth is, the closest game Ohio State has had so far was a 17 point win in Texas against the defending National Champions.

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It's just so annoying to listen to media talk. USC should be number one, no, Auburn should be number one, no, West Virginia is the best team in the history of college football.

Truth is, the closest game Ohio State has had so far was a 17 point win in Texas against the defending National Champions.

I agree with that. People wanting USC being No. 1 make me mad. They play NO ONE except ND. Bring USC to the Big 10, and will show them how hard it is to stay unbeaten.

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Whats the status of Stanton for this weekend? What did he even hurt? Ribs? Shoulder? I was watching the game, and you couldn't tell. Ringer is out 5-6 weeks correct?

Stanton has bruised ribs. Ringer has a sprained knee. According to the Free Press their status will be updated today.

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It's just so annoying to listen to media talk. USC should be number one, no, Auburn should be number one, no, West Virginia is the best team in the history of college football.

Truth is, the closest game Ohio State has had so far was a 17 point win in Texas against the defending National Champions.

Talking heads are overall pretty worthless, all shows like College GameDay do is annoy me. I try to avoid all of them, and just stick to Sports Center if I miss the game. MB3434 adressed the USC issue perfectly, I think Florida will beat Auburn in two weeks, and West Virginia isn't even on the radar, despite their ranking. They play in the Big East, haven't even played a ranked opponent yet, and the toughest game on the rest of their schedule is #8 Louisville. After that they play teams like Mississippi State, UConn, Cincinatti, and South Florida. Give me a break. Steve Slaton is a pretty good back, but almost anyone could put up numbers against some of the dregs he faces.

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Talking heads are overall pretty worthless, all shows like College GameDay do is annoy me. I try to avoid all of them, and just stick to Sports Center if I miss the game. MB3434 adressed the USC issue perfectly, I think Florida will beat Auburn in two weeks, and West Virginia isn't even on the radar, despite their ranking. They play in the Big East, haven't even played a ranked opponent yet, and the toughest game on the rest of their schedule is #8 Louisville. After that they play teams like Mississippi State, UConn, Cincinatti, and South Florida. Give me a break. Steve Slaton is a pretty good back, but almost anyone could put up numbers against some of the dregs he faces.

LSU gets to beat Florida though.

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I'm not worried about Michigan finding room to move up:

- USC is not a good enough team to get through a tough Pac-10 schedule unbeaten. Washington, Arizona State, Cal, and Oregon are all quality teams, and Notre Dame is on that schedule as well. No way USC beats all five of those teams.

- Auburn and Florida have to play each other. That's one spot right there. Both have to play Georgia. Plus Florida has to play LSU and Florida State. And then there's the SEC championship game. There's enough losses to go around.

- West Virginia has their two toughest games on the road - Louisville and Pitt. Brian Brohm should be back for the WVU game for Louisville.

But most importantly, Ohio State will likely win out up until they play Michigan. So they'll be #1 rolling into that week. The lowest Michigan will be (if they also win out) is #5 due to a loss by either Auburn or Florida. That's high enough to claim the #1 spot by beating the #1 team.

Bottom line: if Michigan and OSU are unbeaten going into their game, that game is for a spot in the national title game. End of story.

Soapbox time: With the potential for the biggest rivalry game in all of sports to be for as many marbles as a regular season game could possibly be for, WHY THE HELL would anyone want to diminish that with a stupid playoff??? If those two teams are undefeated, the game will be of Super Bowl proportions. Bigger. A playoff would take away everything.

The national championship drama starts now, dammit. It's already begun. Look, you got six teams going for it, and not one of them can afford a single slip. That's drama. The no-playoff system practically guarantees an undefeated national champion, every single year. Does anyone seriously think that Michigan should be able to goof against MSU, or Auburn to mess it up against Mississippi State, and still win the national title?

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I'm not worried about Michigan finding room to move up:

- USC is not a good enough team to get through a tough Pac-10 schedule unbeaten. Washington, Arizona State, Cal, and Oregon are all quality teams, and Notre Dame is on that schedule as well. No way USC beats all five of those teams.

- Auburn and Florida have to play each other. That's one spot right there. Both have to play Georgia. Plus Florida has to play LSU and Florida State. And then there's the SEC championship game. There's enough losses to go around.

- West Virginia has their two toughest games on the road - Louisville and Pitt. Brian Brohm should be back for the WVU game for Louisville.

But most importantly, Ohio State will likely win out up until they play Michigan. So they'll be #1 rolling into that week. The lowest Michigan will be (if they also win out) is #5 due to a loss by either Auburn or Florida. That's high enough to claim the #1 spot by beating the #1 team.

Bottom line: if Michigan and OSU are unbeaten going into their game, that game is for a spot in the national title game. End of story.

Soapbox time: With the potential for the biggest rivalry game in all of sports to be for as many marbles as a regular season game could possibly be for, WHY THE HELL would anyone want to diminish that with a stupid playoff??? If those two teams are undefeated, the game will be of Super Bowl proportions. Bigger. A playoff would take away everything.

The national championship drama starts now, dammit. It's already begun. Look, you got six teams going for it, and not one of them can afford a single slip. That's drama. The no-playoff system practically guarantees an undefeated national champion, every single year. Does anyone seriously think that Michigan should be able to goof against MSU, or Auburn to mess it up against Mississippi State, and still win the national title?

I'm hoping for this scenario:

OSU #1, UM #2 in the last week of the regular season. UM wins, OSU drops to #2 and plays UM in the championship game, losing again to UM.

Now THAT would be sweet. :sly:

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I'm hoping for this scenario:

OSU #1, UM #2 in the last week of the regular season. UM wins, OSU drops to #2 and plays UM in the championship game, losing again to UM.

Now THAT would be sweet. :sly:

Sweet but unlikely. And I would actually hate for that to happen, because OSU would show up to the championship game pissed off and motivated. Actually I think Auburn is a very good bet to reach the championship game. Their schedule is not particularly tough, only a couple games where they could trip. Michigan-Auburn sound good? Rematch of the Citrus Bowl from a few years back.

But any scenario where Michigan beats Ohio State is good in my book.

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Sweet but unlikely. And I would actually hate for that to happen, because OSU would show up to the championship game pissed off and motivated. Actually I think Auburn is a very good bet to reach the championship game. Their schedule is not particularly tough, only a couple games where they could trip. Michigan-Auburn sound good? Rematch of the Citrus Bowl from a few years back.

But any scenario where Michigan beats Ohio State is good in my book.

Yeah...the big key to my scenario is that they beat OSU twice...once when OSU was expecting to roll and once to confirm that Michigan is the superior team. Agreed that it's unlikely at best that those two teams would be i nthe championship game.

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