Should Kronner be suspended?

[OsGOD 3]

Being in the stands, i didn't realize just how much air kronner got on that hit...

someone should slow it down and put it to music... "I believe i can fly... I believe I can touch the sky"

Should Kronner get suspended....

Pronger says, "f*** YEAH!"

[hillbillywingsfan 794]

Should Kronwall be suspended for leaving his feet?

Or should the Predators quit their goddamn whining?

You decide.

BRTD!!!!! i was just going to post this. i was wondering why the kronwall hit was even in question after this one that smithson did and smithson didn't get anythign for it..

BTW i love that kids face behind the smithson hit. hahahaha awesome

Edited April 11, 2008 by hillbillywingsfan

[jim3033 1]

Should Kronwall be suspended for leaving his feet?

You decide.

Kronwall is Superman! There will not be a suspension.

[Sepster 0]

Earlier in the game TooToo left his feet to hit Holmstrom along the boards, no penalty there. The Preds should really take a good look at the hits they throw around before they think of labeling the Wings as dirty.

No suspension, not even close.

TooToo never has thrown a hit as clean as that one.

[C-Dub 0]

I didn't see the hit, but Kronner isn't a dirty player by any means. I'm sure it was accidental that his elbow even made contact with the Preds player.

That's really besides the point. You look at the hit and once you judge whether it asks for action or not you look at the previous record of the player to determine just how serve the action should be.

In any case, I thought Kronwal was lucky to only get 2 mins for the hit, it was absolutely out of line. I wouldn't be surprised if the league at least fined him.

Edited April 11, 2008 by C-Dub

[hillbillywingsfan 794]

That's really besides the point. You look at the hit and once you judge whether it asks for action or not you look at the previous record of the player to determine just how serve the action should be.

In any case, I thought Kronwal was lucky to only get 2 mins for the hit, it was absolutely out of line. I wouldn't be surprised if the league at least fined him.

and how do you feel about smithson's hit?

[Drimo 0]

Should Kronwall be suspended for leaving his feet?

Or should the Predators quit their goddamn whining?

You decide.

I think that shows it all right there. As for the elbow, it was uncalled for. I remember Mickey saying a few months ago that Kronwall probably wouldn't get injured as much if he stopped going for the big hit all the time. This is definitely one of those situations and I have to agree with Mickey.

[C-Dub 0]

and how do you feel about smithson's hit?

I don't recall seeing another hit quite like Kronwal's but please remind me.

Don't get me wrong, when he laid that hit on I was jumping up in my seat cheering but once I saw the replay from the reverse angle I was like "Crap, that ought to be more than 2 minutes, if not a fine or more."

He clearly lifted his elbow and the skates left the ice rather nicely. He also made contact with the guys head. Without looking at this as a Red Wing fan I'd clearly call it a dirty hit. I would be surprised if the Preds won't send a few guys after Kronwal in Game 2. That might be an advantage for us.

EDIT: Now the the picture was posted I remember that hit on Draper. Yeah, that was dirty too but it just didn't strike me as severe at the time. It SHOULD have been a penalty no doubt though, perhaps even 5 Minutes for boarding.

Edited April 11, 2008 by C-Dub

[Opie 308]

Hits in open ice are always going to look worse than a hit against the boards. In open ice bodies go flying, a yard sale may take place, it is just more visually graphic, where as a hit into the boards doesn't look as bad because usually the boards absorb the contact and neither player ends up flying anywhere. However the hit into the boards has a lot more danger to it, even if looks tell you otherwise.

However there is no way that hit is worse than either of the two pronger suspension hits last postseason, if he gets more than one game it is an outrage, if he gets one game, meh I am ok with that, price to pay for people to re-assess if the wings are soft or not!!

[bringback91 2]

Seems like some Wings fans forget what it's like to have someone on the blueline who'll throw some big hits. All i hear is "not enough toughness", "not enough grit", "soft euro's" well looked like Kronner may have at least addressed that for one game anyway. I love it, I hope to see more of it. You want playoff toughness and grit, your going to have to accept that sometimes players on the Wings are going to have to bend or even break some of the rules. It's expected from the other teams, and i'm glad it appears the days of the Wings only taking and not dishing it out are over and i could'nt be happier. I thought this was far from the Wings A game, all around i give them a C. The part that was the brightest spot for me was the physical side of the game. The Wings looked tough, and that's a great sign. One of topic thing....Mac had a good game i thought, fiesty and was playing the body at every oppertunity and his game will only improve as the seires and hopefully entire playoffs wear on. Everybody was playing tough and not backing down, getting in the Preds faces when they were trying to take some libertys with some of the Wings. Once they put it all together some analysts are going to start changing their tune about this team. Bottom line, no suspension the play got called and with the missed calls all game, I'd say Trotz should be happy with that.

[Hockeytown Red Wings 245]

Is this what us Wings fans are reduced to? It was physicality....I know we don't see it much, but this is hockey.

[OsGOD 3]

Is this what us Wings fans are reduced to? It was physicality....I know we don't see it much, but this is hockey.

So true!!!

Pretty soon we are going to have those Rubber Lovers come out of the woodworking and protest how hard the sticks hit the little rubber puck.... its so defenseless and all..

If you don't like the hitting watch golf!!! oh wait i have read that TSN is already doing that to some you... that joke was in bad taste then... i am soory

[pavyaz19 1]

to clear up the elbowing thing... his arm was tucked into his side at impact. So if you think his elbow made contact, you may be correct, but it's not a penalty since his elbow was against his own rib cage.

i'm not sold on him leaving his feet either... the Predator did not expect that hit in a million years, he got caught with his head down while he was getting low on his feet ready to charge up the ice. Kronwall was coming in for a normal hit, the guy gets low, all of a sudden it looks like Kronwall is higher than he actually is. After impact, he is immediately lofted into the air since the Predator was so low to the ice.

the play looked odd so the ref called a penalty. if that hit was on one of our players, i would have expected a penalty as well because it looked bad in real time. but now, after seeing a replay (just like league officials will) i don't believe it's grounds for any further punishment.

[wingsgirl001 983]

Should Kronwall be suspended for leaving his feet?

Or should the Predators quit their goddamn whining?

You decide.

Well, this pretty much sums up my thoughts on the matter.

[superstarsingh 23]

He should have hit him even harder if you ask me. Smithson also ran Drapes, who did not even play the puck (as seen above). Its hockey, its going to happen. Was Kronner dirty? No. Was Smithson dirty? No. End of story.

[wingslogo19 281]

Kronner got 2 minutes which was fine.. IMO anymore than that is a joke

[sverige 0]

"I thought I got him with my shoulder and then just kind of followed through," Kronwall said. "It didn't feel like it was an elbow."

Peverley said he didn't think it was a dirty hit. "I saw him coming and the ref called an elbow penalty, so it must have been an elbow," he said.

Free Press

Basically Peverley admits that it shouldn't even have been a penalty. Why? Because he wouldn't want a penalty called if one of his teammates did that to a Wing. This is the playoffs not Disney on Ice.

[tazzer82 0]

Still no video of it? Damn, I wanted to see a Pred player get leveled too.

[Echolalia 2,961]

There was definitely an elbow and his skates definitely left the ice.

Theres no question the hit was dirty (no matter how sweet it was to see), and if he got a suspension, I wouldn't be surprised, as its borderline in my opinion. But if they're going to suspend Kronwall for that, then the need to be handing out suspensions to many other players for similar acts, and its not even worth the effort at that point; especially because there would be no physicality left in the game.

[Mors 201]

Nothing here that merits a suspension.

[RWK23 0]

I was at the game and I can definately attest to the fact that Kronner's hit PUMPED the crowd up and seemed to light a spark under the team for the remaining 7 minutes or whatever it was. I thought it probably deserved a penalty, but I think that was the loudest the crowd was all game outside of Hank's game-winner.

[IceMunkee 15]

The only fans in the world of hockey to be debating a suspension instead of celebrating a rough hit that the most of us have cried for. I was in love with the hit, I was happy he got the penalty for it. Completely worth it. He sent a message that we are here to play hard and gritty! What did it take to win the cup last year. Go Kronic....

[Shaman 713]

I still cant see why everyone thinks this hit was dirty, hell wasnt even top 50 dirtiest in the last year...come on, either root for the big hit, or line the rink in old tires and make all the players wear pillows under their uniforms.

[Kp-Wings 3]

Is this what us Wings fans are reduced to? It was physicality....I know we don't see it much, but this is hockey.

Haha, tell me about it.

Nothing about that hits even warrants a penalty, much less a suspension. Smithson's hit on Draper was just as bad; if not for Draper ducking to avoid it at the end, he could have been hurt, making it much worse. And that hit wasn't even penalized. If Smithson doesn't get anything for that hit, than Kronwall shouldn't get anything for his. And this is just talking about penalites. As far as suspensions are concerned... ugh, give me a break. If the NHL starts suspending guys for normal hockey plays like that, this league is in trouble...

That hit was awesome, by the way. Kronwall had Peverley (or whoever it was) lined up, and just ran him over like a train. Almost reminds of the good old days when we had guys like Vladdy...

Edited April 11, 2008 by Kp-Wings

[ltgator333 3]

No. But even if he is, Lebda sat last night, so it would almost be a woopty-doo.