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When are the arbitration hearings? I am really interested in seeing what Weber gets awarded... Could REALLY factor in the chances or lack of chances that Suter actually makes it to July 1st next season...

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I am looking over the available free agents and I am not seeing too much that I like... I still don't see Drury listed, but he is indeed a UFA. There isn't much left out there that I think that would be worth picking up. And why is Maxime Talbot listed as a UFA? Did the NHL void his contract? If Detroit could get Drury for a million, that would be ok, but it is looking like :puke: the best option would be to :puke: keep Hudler :puke: here....:puke: :puke:

Gosh it pained me to say that, but he would be ok to rotate in and out at the 12th position with Emmerton and Miller...

I still would love to see Hudler gone, even if Holland doesn't replace him and just keep 13 forwards, but if nobody wants him, then keep him around until his contract expires... I think I'd rather have Drury, Morrison or even Talbot (if he is indeed available) though...or just skip the UFA route and let another prospect win the position...

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Hey, do you like Hudler?

:lol: not too much, but as much as I do not like him, I really dont like saying we should just keep him....but you probably gathered that! But even I can't help the fact that nobody wants our fodder, so I guess let him play out his contract and if he does end up playing well, then his trade value will be higher at the deadline for when we acquire the "PLAYER" that will help us win another Cup...Holland has $7M available to him and has nobody to sign, if someone of the $5M-$7M type player becomes available at the deadline, expect him to use it (unless they ask for an unreasonable return of assets.)

I still like the trade Hudler for Nabokov idea...

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Gosh it pained me to say that, but he would be ok to rotate in and out at the 12th position with Emmerton and Miller...

That wouldn't do anyone any good. Hudler isn't a bottom 6 grinding forward. He wouldn't be effective in the role, and it would be a waste of a forward spot.

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That wouldn't do anyone any good. Hudler isn't a bottom 6 grinding forward. He wouldn't be effective in the role, and it would be a waste of a forward spot.

To be fair, Hudlers not really effective in any role haha, but i get what you are saying. Im really hoping that if all this trade talk doesnt lead to a decent trade for Hudler and we are stuck with him for the year, hopefully all the talk and dissapointment will light a fire under his ass and he comes out and plays with some gusto this season....though hes guaranteed the paycheck for this year and can always go back to the khl next season so who knows how much pride he will show at this point.

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To be fair, Hudlers not really effective in any role haha, but i get what you are saying. Im really hoping that if all this trade talk doesnt lead to a decent trade for Hudler and we are stuck with him for the year, hopefully all the talk and dissapointment will light a fire under his ass and he comes out and plays with some gusto this season....though hes guaranteed the paycheck for this year and can always go back to the khl next season so who knows how much pride he will show at this point.

Yeah, I was thinking about that earlier. I'm for giving Hudler the first half of the 11-12 season to make right - and I'd love to see a redemption story of sorts. Hopefully he's putting in the work this off-season to provide us what we were looking for out of him last year.

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Wings sign former Penguin and Michigan native Chris Conner, according to The Production Line's twitter. If true, I assume it's for GR.

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Seriously, how awesome would it be after a summer of turning almost every thread into a Hudler bashing bonanza, if he put up 60+ points like his potential suggests and he HAS shown capable of before?

I would like to get rid of Hudler, but not for a bag of pucks, and not to replace with Zherdev or even freakin' Alex "Karate Slap" Semin. If we can't get a true, skilled, 100% effort guy in our top 6 then we might as well keep shuffling Hudler in for this last year and see if he's truely useless rather than replacing him with guys who are essentially the same players, even if it means 30 more points. Who would seriously want to see Semin locked up here long term? That's terrifying. As if Franzen and Ericsson refusing to be physical wouldn't be enough for LGW, we then pick up a 155 lbs, Russian slap fighter with a penchant for slacking? No thank you.

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Seriously, how awesome would it be after a summer of turning almost every thread into a Hudler bashing bonanza, if he put up 60+ points like his potential suggests and he HAS shown capable of before?

I would like to get rid of Hudler, but not for a bag of pucks, and not to replace with Zherdev or even freakin' Alex "Karate Slap" Semin. If we can't get a true, skilled, 100% effort guy in our top 6 then we might as well keep shuffling Hudler in for this last year and see if he's truely useless rather than replacing him with guys who are essentially the same players, even if it means 30 more points. Who would seriously want to see Semin locked up here long term? That's terrifying. As if Franzen and Ericsson refusing to be physical wouldn't be enough for LGW, we then pick up a 155 lbs, Russian slap fighter with a penchant for slacking? No thank you.

You know us LGWers love to pick on one guy and lay into them and basically blame them for everything thst goes wrong all year, thats nothing new, haha. Im with ya though, if there isnt good value for hudler than just ride him out and maybe he will surpirse us all...we can hope

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Alexander Semin come on down! You are the next contestant on the Player is Right for the Red Wings! A 6.7 mil Cap hit with 1 year left on his contract, he can be ours if the Price is Right! I wonder if McPhee has him on the block? He'll likely cut elsewhere to get under the Cap.

Jason Chimera is a sad panda, because he knows he'll be traded again soon.

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Weber looking for "short-term" contract...

You think that there will be a one year deal in his future?

Seriously, how awesome would it be after a summer of turning almost every thread into a Hudler bashing bonanza, if he put up 60+ points like his potential suggests and he HAS shown capable of before?

I would like to get rid of Hudler, but not for a bag of pucks, and not to replace with Zherdev or even freakin' Alex "Karate Slap" Semin. If we can't get a true, skilled, 100% effort guy in our top 6 then we might as well keep shuffling Hudler in for this last year and see if he's truely useless rather than replacing him with guys who are essentially the same players, even if it means 30 more points. Who would seriously want to see Semin locked up here long term? That's terrifying. As if Franzen and Ericsson refusing to be physical wouldn't be enough for LGW, we then pick up a 155 lbs, Russian slap fighter with a penchant for slacking? No thank you.

I agree that you shouldn't get rid of Hudler for nothing, but you are crazy if you don't think Semin is a huge step up from Hudler. He is a true skilled guy. He gives 100% more effort than Hudler too.

You seem to undervalue Semin, because he cannot fight? He is not a tough guy, he is a scorer. He is a guy that can get you 40 goals not a guy who can get you 4 fighting majors.

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Brian McGrattan signs one-year, two-way deal with Anaheim.

I would have traded Hudler for him straight up.

I guess they finally realized Parros wasn't a great fighter.

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Semin would be an awesome one year rental... What would it take to get him here? Hudler plus......???????

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Semin would be an awesome one year rental... What would it take to get him here? Hudler plus......???????

Filppula

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I agree that you shouldn't get rid of Hudler for nothing, but you are crazy if you don't think Semin is a huge step up from Hudler. He is a true skilled guy. He gives 100% more effort than Hudler too.

You seem to undervalue Semin, because he cannot fight? He is not a tough guy, he is a scorer. He is a guy that can get you 40 goals not a guy who can get you 4 fighting majors.

I think his point was more that Hudler shouldn't be shuttled out for nothing in an effort to get Semin as a rental. Which you agreed with. Washington is unlikely to trade Semin for Hudler straight, and if they are trading Semin they will be wanting to drop $2m in cap space to be compliant. So if you put Hudler there, that means only $3.8m more in the deal, maximum. So who is added in? Filppula? Stuart? Ericsson? You're also going to see a pick and possibly a prospect given up. Still want to make the deal? I sure don't. We'd basically be looking at Huds and Flip vs. Semin and Emmerton. Which duo provides more offense? Which provides more defense? Which is better physically? Huds and Flip win on all three counts.

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I think his point was more that Hudler shouldn't be shuttled out for nothing in an effort to get Semin as a rental. Which you agreed with. Washington is unlikely to trade Semin for Hudler straight, and if they are trading Semin they will be wanting to drop $2m in cap space to be compliant. So if you put Hudler there, that means only $3.8m more in the deal, maximum. So who is added in? Filppula? Stuart? Ericsson? You're also going to see a pick and possibly a prospect given up. Still want to make the deal? I sure don't. We'd basically be looking at Huds and Flip vs. Semin and Emmerton. Which duo provides more offense? Which provides more defense? Which is better physically? Huds and Flip win on all three counts.

Hudler and the word physically together....:hysterical:

Hudler provides more offense than Semin? You slay me! Thanks for making my day funny!

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Speaking of Washington, yesterday they were $1.8M over the cap, today they are a couple hundred grand under? What happened?

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Speaking of Washington, yesterday they were $1.8M over the cap, today they are a couple hundred grand under? What happened?

Eric Fehr trade?

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Hudler and the word physically together....:hysterical:

Hudler provides more offense than Semin? You slay me! Thanks for making my day funny!

And. AND.

Hudler AND Filppula vs. Semin AND Emmerton.

Can you not read when the paragraph has "Hudler" in it? Because that's what it seems like.

It seems like you're so concerned with getting Semin any way you can that you fail to recognize logical arguments.

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Eric Fehr trade?

Still surprised it was Fehr and not Chimera. Given their ages and skill, I thought it was a no-brainer to salary-dump Chimera for just a 4th or 5th pick next year. Would have made for a much better team in DC.

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Still surprised it was Fehr and not Chimera. Given their ages and skill, I thought it was a no-brainer to salary-dump Chimera for just a 4th or 5th pick next year. Would have made for a much better team in DC.

Chimera would have barely got them under, leaving no room for call-ups. Fehr seems kind of like their version of Hudler; a skilled guy who hadn't been able to grab a top-6 spot. But I don't think they're done though. I imagine they still want to sign Alzner, and I'd guess Poti will either retire or get dumped, so they'll probably save a little there. Maybe they just didn't like Fehr. They didn't get much in return.

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And. AND.

Hudler AND Filppula vs. Semin AND Emmerton.

Can you not read when the paragraph has "Hudler" in it? Because that's what it seems like.

It seems like you're so concerned with getting Semin any way you can that you fail to recognize logical arguments.

Well since the post above is the first time EVER I have mentioned Semin, I don't think that I am SO concerned with getting him....BUT I would for sure take Semin and Emmerton over Hudler and Filppula! It would give us a legit top 6 sniper, it would give Helm the 3rd line center position (which should be his anyhow) and give Abdelkader the 4th line center spot, plus give Emmerton and Mursak more playig time with only 13 fwds instead of 14. The loss of Filppula and Hudler's combined salary would nearly wash out Semin's so Holland would still have a ton of money for a deadline acquisition...(if needed)

Of course I'd take a broken Koho for Hudler...

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