uk_redwing 495 Report post Posted September 16, 2012 (edited) For the forth time since 1992, we have an official lockout. A round of applause for our amazing commissioner Gary Bettman, who is overseeing his third lockout, and the league's fantastic owners who both care so much about the NHL and it's fans Both sides met thousands of times over the last few weeks and worked really hard but just couldn't get a deal done. Edited September 16, 2012 by uk_redwing 1 Nev reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted September 16, 2012 Facts, cold and hard: It’s the league’s fourth work stoppage in 20 years and third lockout as owners try to find a way to corral salaries at a time when league revenues are growing at a record pace. The league has gone from a $2.1 billion (all figures U.S.) business to $3.3 billion in the last seven years.The league’s 30 general managers have handed out contracts worth $1.67 billion to 179 players since July 1, according to Matthew Wuest, the man behind capgeek.com, but at the same time are demanding salary clawbacks. On Saturday, Milan Lucic signed a three-year, $18-million extension with the Bruins and Nashville defenceman Kevin Klein inked a new five-year deal for $14.5 million. These are head-scratching offers — about $135 million to 13 players over the final two days of a collective bargaining agreement the league says isn’t working. 8 WizardOfOz30, Byorski, 13dangledangle and 5 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted September 16, 2012 All hail the hardworking, great hockeymind, always fair and never at fault midget and his stupid wellfare teams. Blame als has to go to all the greedy bastard owners who just can't found a way to screw all the momentum the NHL had. Superb job really worth wasting 8.000.000 for midgetlike hat-trick. Record revenues, recod attendances and growth over the last 7 years hey lets lockout the player again, so we can keep all these failed franchises and piss poor playing owners alive right? Screw you NHL; I am happily watching the SEL, AHL and NLA hope the players wait this out as long as it takes otherwhise the damn midget will lock them out everytime they aren't accepting such insulting proposals. God I still can't believe it, stubborn owners keeping this damn commissioner employed. Sure Ecclestone and Blatter are worse than the mafia but midget is easily top 5 in terms of worst sports commissioners ever. May he be attacked by a furious octopus. 2 WingsAlways and Z Winged Dangler reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Itchin' to go 16 Report post Posted September 16, 2012 A reliable source just told me they seen Bettman at the Joe painting "THANK YOU FANS" on the boards Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_redwing 495 Report post Posted September 16, 2012 Some more meaningless words from the NHL: Despite the expiration of the Collective Bargaining Agreement, the National Hockey League has been, and remains, committed to negotiating around the clock to reach a new CBA that is fair to the Players and to the 30 NHL teams. Thanks to the conditions fostered by seven seasons under the previous CBA, competitive balance has created arguably the most meaningful regular season in pro sports; a different team has won the Stanley Cup every year; fans and sponsors have agreed the game is at its best, and the League has generated remarkable growth and momentum. While our last CBA negotiation resulted in a seismic change in the League's economic system, and produced corresponding on-ice benefits, our current negotiation is focused on a fairer and more sustainable division of revenues with the Players -- as well as other necessary adjustments consistent with the objectives of the economic system we developed jointly with the NHL Players' Association seven years ago. Those adjustments are attainable through sensible, focused negotiation -- not through rhetoric. This is a time of year for all attention to be focused on the ice, not on a meeting room. The League, the Clubs and the Players all have a stake in resolving our bargaining issues appropriately and getting the puck dropped as soon as possible. We owe it to each other, to the game and, most of all, to the fans. http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=641584&cmpid=fb Nothing much I hate more in sports than the legal drafted bulls*** PR statement by the arrogant, greed filled people who think we as fans are simpletons waiting to lap up anything and everything they say with open wallets to throw money at them afterwards. AHL for me. 1 roboginger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evilzyme 769 Report post Posted September 16, 2012 ill be rolling to grand rapids quite a bit. jurco's slated to start this year right? 1 roboginger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_redwing 495 Report post Posted September 16, 2012 (edited) Pavel Datsyuk has signed for Ak Bars Kazan (KHL) The other first lockout departures are: Sergei Gonchar (OTT) & Evgeni Malkin (PIT) - Metallurg Magnitogorsk (KHL) Ruslan Fedotenko (NYR) & Alexei Ponikarovsky (WPG) - Donbass Donetsk (KHL) Jaromir Jagr (DAL) & Tomas Plekanec - HC Kladno (CZE) Ilya Kovalchuk (NJ) - SKA Saint Petersburg (KHL) Edited September 16, 2012 by uk_redwing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted September 16, 2012 So if this is a partial lockout, how do those non-NHL contracts work? If the league comes back in a month or two, can they simply abandon their contracts, or is Datsyuk gone for the year now, regardless of what happens in the NHL? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ozzie30 170 Report post Posted September 16, 2012 The NHL will not be getting another cent from me. No games, merchandise, or dollar hotdogs until I see these millionaires and billionaires negotiating in good faith and attempting to save a season instead of holding it hostage. We should start a fan association, NSFA - national sports fan association? 2 Nightfall and Z Winged Dangler reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HOCKEY MATTERS 167 Report post Posted September 16, 2012 I think I'm done with the NHL. I love the Wings, but I am completely disgusted that we are having bak-to-back lockouts. Fans are clearly not as important as greed. So much is wrong with hockey today, it's just not worth the trouble anymore.....this coming from a fan of over 40 years. 1 Nightfall reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GSBrooks13 204 Report post Posted September 16, 2012 So.. does anyone know of a reliable source for watching KHL and European league games? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_redwing 495 Report post Posted September 16, 2012 So if this is a partial lockout, how do those non-NHL contracts work? If the league comes back in a month or two, can they simply abandon their contracts, or is Datsyuk gone for the year now, regardless of what happens in the NHL? They can simply return to the NHL whenever they wish, unless they sign for the SEL (Sweden) in which case the league doesn't allow it and any player signing there has to stay for the season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evilmrt 636 Report post Posted September 16, 2012 Time to start watching AHL games. Look at this...the Oilers's farm team just got Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Jordan Eberle, Magnus Paajarvi, and Justin Schultz.....and Taylor Hall soon to follow when he gets off IR. Go OKC Oilers? LOL Kind of a shame that the Wings don't have any younger regulars. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rrasco 1,312 Report post Posted September 16, 2012 Some more meaningless words from the NHL: http://www.nhl.com/i...641584&cmpid=fb Nothing much I hate more in sports than the legal drafted bulls*** PR statement by the arrogant, greed filled people who think we as fans are simpletons waiting to lap up anything and everything they say with open wallets to throw money at them afterwards. AHL for me. Reading that this morning REALLY pissed me off. The NHL deserves an enormous collective f*** YOU! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted September 16, 2012 Buck Fettman. 5 Z Winged Dangler, 55fan, Wingsfan72 and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings4Life19 150 Report post Posted September 16, 2012 I'm sure this has been brought up before and I hope you guys don't end up changing the subject of the thread, but if back in June it looked like the CBA was going to be done by now would it have affected Lidstrom's decision any? With him respecting Holland and giving him a decision before July 1 he had no way of knowing how long this was going to last. So part of me thinks he didn't want to say he was coming back just to have the season taken out and then end up just retiring anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sleepwalker 512 Report post Posted September 16, 2012 (edited) Pavel Datsyuk has signed for Ak Bars Kazan (KHL) Bummer. I was hoping he'd play for Dynamo, since I still have my Datsyuk Dynamo jersey from last time. Edited September 16, 2012 by sleepwalker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jedi 1,865 Report post Posted September 16, 2012 Sad that its come to this, yet again. Third lockout in as many tries for Bettman. 3/3 on league time lost due to labor disputes. Anyone still think this buffoon still needs to keep his job? Apparently a majority of the BoG does, which is sad... 1 Z Winged Dangler reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted September 16, 2012 (edited) Edited September 16, 2012 by cusimano_brothers 1 Nev reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted September 16, 2012 Sad that its come to this, yet again. Third lockout in as many tries for Bettman. 3/3 on league time lost due to labor disputes. Anyone still think this buffoon still needs to keep his job? Apparently a majority of the BoG does, which is sad... I just have to say, that's an awesome avatar. 1 raven756 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jedi 1,865 Report post Posted September 16, 2012 I just have to say, that's an awesome avatar. Hehe, thanks! Had that and my signature ready for weeks. I think they're awesome too, but damn I was hoping I'd never actually have to use them. They're staying up for the duration of the lockout. Which better not be long, because (as some members no doubt have discovered) I change avys and sigs more than some people change socks. 1 Z Winged Dangler reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings10 300 Report post Posted September 16, 2012 Meh honestly as long as football is on, I really don't care. The NHL is in no position for a 3rd labor stoppage, congrats to Bettman on being the worst commissioner in pro sports. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
13dangledangle 968 Report post Posted September 16, 2012 So.. does anyone know of a reliable source for watching KHL and European league games? Please? I can believe there is another lockout which shouldn't bode well for Bettman, though unlikely he must go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladdy16 2,154 Report post Posted September 16, 2012 The last lockout wasn't even a blip on my radar once the next season began. Things will be much, much different this time around. My financial contribution to hockey will be inversely proportional to how long the lockout lasts - the longer they are locked out, the less I spend after hockey starts again. If they've killed the Winter Classic this year, I cannot be held responsible for my actions. Maybe we should start a bail fund now.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brett 1,029 Report post Posted September 16, 2012 i knew the nhl would be destroyed once lids retired 6 Ally, 55fan, thegerkin and 3 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
