PavelValerievichDatsyuk 1,935 Report post Posted July 1, 2014 (edited) The Wings will look to re-sign defenseman Kyle Quincey Per the Red Wings official website ...and the rest of the sentence: ",but the 28-year-old will most likely receive a bigger offer on the open market than Detroit is willing to spend." http://redwings.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=724576&navid=M_DL Edited July 1, 2014 by PavelValerievichDatsyuk 2 wings4thecup06 and krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted July 1, 2014 The Wings will look to re-sign defenseman Kyle Quincey Per the Red Wings official website Of course you would cherry pick that quote. Any Wings fan that knows what’s up knows that there is about a 5% chance that they actually want Quincey back. This quote is just the product of a PR spin. The Wings official site is not going to come out and say “the Wings have no interest in bringing back Quincey because he sucks”. 3 PavelValerievichDatsyuk, number9 and krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaman 713 Report post Posted July 1, 2014 (edited) ...and the rest of the sentence: ",but the 28-year-old will most likely receive a bigger offer on the open market than Detroit is willing to spend." http://redwings.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=724576&navid=M_DL Yes, but the rest of the sentence still doesn't change the overall meaning: That given the chance they would re-sign him. That shows you just how disconnected the Wings' front office is from the real world. Edited July 1, 2014 by Shaman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted July 1, 2014 (edited) Yes, but the rest of the sentence still doesn't change the overall meaning: That given the chance they would resign him. That shows you just how disconnected the Wings' front office is from the real world. Yeah and maybe that chance is only if he signs at a significant paycut... but what do I know I live in la la land with Holland and the care bears. EDIT: But I agree with RZ. This screams PR. "Oh we'd love to re-sign him... but we don't have the money! Sorry Q!" It's the same thing I tell the bums on Woodward Edited July 1, 2014 by number9 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaman 713 Report post Posted July 1, 2014 (edited) Yeah and maybe that chance is only if he signs at a significant paycut... but what do I know I live in la la land with Holland and the care bears. No matter how little money KFQ takes he is still not worth the spot he would take up on the roster. This is a perfect example of the team getting better by subtraction. Seriously the advance stats say he was a negative player for the Wings last season: http://www.extraskater.com/player/217/kyle-quincey Edited July 1, 2014 by Shaman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted July 1, 2014 No matter how little money KFQ takes he is still not worth the spot he would take up on the roster. This is a perfect example of the team getting better by subtraction. He's not coming back. Ok? We'll never know if it's PR spin or not. You have ur Red Wings live in fantasy land opinion, I have a different one, but at the end of the day the loser is gone so lets just be happy about it. On a two way contract I'd take him! 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaman 713 Report post Posted July 1, 2014 (edited) He's not coming back. Ok? We'll never know if it's PR spin or not. You have ur Red Wings live in fantasy land opinion, I have a different one, but at the end of the day the loser is gone so lets just be happy about it. On a two way contract I'd take him! I would not take him on a two way contract I would not take him with a missing contact I would not take him with Megan Fox I would not take him with two pet rocks I would not take him Shaman I am I would not take that defensive sham. Edited July 1, 2014 by Shaman 5 AtomicPunk, whitewolf406, Hockeymom1960 and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kylee 727 Report post Posted July 1, 2014 Wow and Quincey might be gone too? Too good to be true, it seems. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted July 1, 2014 I would not take him on a two way contract I would not take him with a missing contact I would not take him with Megan Fox I would not take him with two pet rocks I would not take him Shaman I am I would not take that defensive sham. Well considering the fact that his market value is well above a 2-way contract, I'd take him on one. If not just for selling. Sorry, that's the business man in me. I can't rhyme like Pac or Suess Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaman 713 Report post Posted July 1, 2014 Well considering the fact that his market value is well above a 2-way contract, I'd take him on one. If not just for selling. Sorry, that's the business man in me. I can't rhyme like Pac or Suess Samuelson is *worth* more than league minimum on a 2-way contract. But there is a opportunity cost lost by carrying that player and cap hit, so even if he does add value to the team, there is also a lose of value just by virtue of having him and not being able to have the alternative. In KFQ's cause he is taking up cap space/roster space/veteran in AHL space that other players are better suited for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted July 1, 2014 (edited) Samuelson is *worth* more than league minimum on a 2-way contract. But there is a opportunity cost lost by carrying that player and cap hit, so even if he does add value to the team, there is also a lose of value just by virtue of having him and not being able to have the alternative. In KFQ's cause he is taking up cap space/roster space/veteran in AHL space that other players are better suited for. Just let it die man, he's gone. This is a pointless argument. I'm sorry I continued it. Comparing Sammy to Q is dumb too and beside the point. Edited July 1, 2014 by number9 2 wings4thecup06 and krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwedeLundin77 460 Report post Posted July 1, 2014 (edited) Per the Red Wings official website Oh God, why?!?!? Please just be PR spin... even if we can't get anyone big, at least just go out and get Gilbert or someone. Edited July 1, 2014 by SwedeLundin77 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vladiator 116 Report post Posted July 1, 2014 It really is like the day before Christmas....except we've got some twisted f*** Santa who makes kids fight over gifts... While visions of RH Dmen danced in their heads Sorry, I couldn't help my self on that one 1 NYC Wings Fanatic reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted July 1, 2014 I know it's been mentioned, but it's worth mentioning again: supposedly we're all in on Niskanen/Boyle, with a big trade being preferable to Stralman, Gilbert, et al. http://msn.foxsports.com/detroit/story/source-wings-will-go-all-in-for-matt-niskanen-070114 http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2014/06/red_wings_aggressively_pursuin.html I'm really excited cautiously optimistic expecting Sami Salo and Devin Setoguchi. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ash11 78 Report post Posted July 1, 2014 do you all remember the trade deadline, we all were expecting a d man, then when it came to centers know one expected leggy, i dont know why but i think were gonna get someone we werent expecting at all.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_redwing 495 Report post Posted July 1, 2014 Did someone say McBain is available? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtomicPunk 296 Report post Posted July 1, 2014 It just frustrates me how willing the Wings are to stay with the status quo and re-sign the same players when we aren't winning. I know it's a joke but I really am feeling like Kenny is phoning it in. I know, I know, he is kicking tires, but when nothing creative happens, and they just re-sign players that didn't work the first time, it makes me shake my head. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsyukian-Deke 722 Report post Posted July 1, 2014 It just frustrates me how willing the Wings are to stay with the status quo and re-sign the same players when we aren't winning. I know it's a joke but I really am feeling like Kenny is phoning it in. I know, I know, he is kicking tires, but when nothing creative happens, and they just re-sign players that didn't work the first time, it makes me shake my head. We are on the short lists for Boyle, Niskanen, and Iginla....3 of the top free agents. I would hardly say Holland is "phoning it in". 4 NYC Wings Fanatic, wings4thecup06, krsmith17 and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted July 1, 2014 Agreed. If Holland gets outbid by other GM's - is he then likely gonna sign guys like Gilbert, or Stralman, or will he goes with what he knows, and re-signs Quincey? My impression is that Kenny understands the situation. We need a big name, and he's willing to go balls out for one, even if that means a trade. Stralman, Gilbert, et al. = Quincey II in his book, and he doesn't really want Quincey II. He wants a real difference-maker. And even if he doesn't, I've gotta think Babcock does. 1 NYC Wings Fanatic reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsyukian-Deke 722 Report post Posted July 1, 2014 My impression is that Kenny understands the situation. We need a big name, and he's willing to go balls out for one, even if that means a trade. Stralman, Gilbert, et al. = Quincey II in his book, and he doesn't really want Quincey II. He wants a real difference-maker. And even if he doesn't, I've gotta think Babcock does. I disagree on Stralman. Unlike Quincey he can actually play defense. 1 Ekmanc reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheXym 2,606 Report post Posted July 1, 2014 I think Dabura is hitting it on the head. KH did well in the last offseason but it was derailed due to injury, and he is still smarting from Suter. I think he wants to make a splash again. Will it make a difference in retaining Babs if he does? Will it rejuvenate Pavs and Z? 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShanahanMan 473 Report post Posted July 1, 2014 Wings out on Niskanen. http://www.freep.com/article/20140701/SPORTS05/307010072 Welcome to Detroit Boyle. Glad to see Holland is helping us get younger and faster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaman 713 Report post Posted July 1, 2014 I think Dabura is hitting it on the head. KH did well in the last offseason but it was derailed due to injury, and he is still smarting from Suter. I think he wants to make a splash again. Will it make a difference in retaining Babs if he does? Will it rejuvenate Pavs and Z? I disagree he did well, as he built a team that is softer than a basket of puppies and more injury prone than octogenarian swing dancing contest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nawein 324 Report post Posted July 1, 2014 Wings out on Niskanen. http://www.freep.com/article/20140701/SPORTS05/307010072 Welcome to Detroit Boyle. Glad to see Holland is helping us get younger and faster. St. James, and only St. James has been saying that the whole time. 2 krsmith17 and PavelValerievichDatsyuk reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,476 Report post Posted July 1, 2014 Agreed. I don't put much stock in st. James. she gets it wrong a lot. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites