VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted April 3, 2015 Good logic, Babs. Let's stick with the guy that just lost the team the most important game of the season. Babcock is more about individual performance than team performance. He's probably focusing on developing Mrazek as a player, giving him a chance to bounce back and face adversity, etc. he's done this with several players over the years and it hasn't usually been pretty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmyemeryhunter 2,747 Report post Posted April 3, 2015 As I said in another thread, when Zetterberg plays like crap, people always blame it on his back injury. When he plays well, the back is miraculously cured. He has too much immunity here. He's playing uninspired and doing a poor job of leading by example. He's a red wings captain, we haven't had a captain who wasn't one of the best in the game since yzermans knees turned him into a 3rd liner.Even when Lidström was playing "poorly" he was still one of, if not, THE best defenseman in the game. And I don't like bad mouthing the captain, because he has earned that much respect, but he still is in charge of getting this team together, and he's not doing that right now. 1 puckloo39 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted April 3, 2015 Apparently Helene St. James heard wrong and now says that Rask kept the Wings from winning, but Mrazek should have had the 3rd goal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTU_Huskies963 398 Report post Posted April 3, 2015 I don't think this loss is on Mrazek. Sure, third goal is a stinker, but he saved our asses many times before that happend. He was also hung out dry at least at the first goal, arguably at the second too. 1st and 2nd period tells me this is all about confidence. We need to find a way to rebuild it. Great teams are made by situations like these. Guess we will find out if the Wings are pretty soon. He should have had the 3rd goal but the wings really could have been down 2-0 by the time they got their 1st. 1 derblaueClaus reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted April 3, 2015 And put in the guy who has done the exact same? Might as well see what you have in Mrazek so you can make a decision in the offseason. Team isn't doing any damage this post season anyways. He's done the exact same but with 5 games left it seems like the best thing is to get your starter going and hope he finds his game, rather than relying on a 23 year old who hasn't shown consistency in the NHL yet. I like Mrazek, but the kid is showing he's not ready yet. 2 GoWings1905 and Z and D for the C reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tr!PoD#19 524 Report post Posted April 3, 2015 Or the guy that was the Wings best player before getting injured? Mrazek is an inconsistent rookie -- we have already seen that. And Howard is an inconsistent veteran. I honestly don't care who plays, I don't either one stepping up, nor do I see a team in front of them who gives a s*** about winning. It's ******* embarassing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Playmaker Report post Posted April 3, 2015 Mrazek played, dare I say, average, tonight? He did not "stand on his head" or play out of his mind or keep us in the game. He made some saves, and let in some soft goals. I'm not seeing where anyone thinks this is a significant upgrade over Howard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Franzine 739 Report post Posted April 3, 2015 Red Wings will make the playoffs and Mrazek will start in goal. 2 Aethernum and MrazekFanBoy reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barabbas16 499 Report post Posted April 3, 2015 Helene St. James was right the first time. No correction needed... or did Rask have a laser pointer directed at Mrazek's eyes and that's why he shat himself and let in that pathetically weak goal to lose the game? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nyquistfan14 489 Report post Posted April 3, 2015 He should have had the 3rd goal but the wings really could have been down 2-0 by the time they got their 1st. Ya of course we could have... But it's not like we didn't have chances before we got the first one. We dominated the first and second. You can always say well we could have been down 2-0. The fact is that goalies get paid to play too and they are supposed to stop the puck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted April 3, 2015 Apparently Helene St. James heard wrong and now says that Rask kept the Wings from winning, but Mrazek should have had the 3rd goal. Freudian slip. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmyemeryhunter 2,747 Report post Posted April 3, 2015 I kind of miss franzen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaliforniaWingsFan 464 Report post Posted April 3, 2015 This is how the rest of the season will pan out in my opinion: Wild-loss Caps-loss Canes-win Canadiens-loss Canes-win If this is how it goes, then they will not make it 24 years. 1 derblaueClaus reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShanahanMan 473 Report post Posted April 3, 2015 3 points out of a spot! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrazekFanBoy 223 Report post Posted April 3, 2015 We'll win Saturday if Datsyuk... The real savior returns 1 gcom007 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joesuffP 1,746 Report post Posted April 3, 2015 Taking a stupid penalty right after we go up 2-0 was huge too. Ughh we were so close to getting the puck out of the zone before that PP goal too. Then the 3rd goal is inexcusable with 2 minutes left, we had no chance 1 Fonzarelli reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HadThomasVokounOnFortSt 878 Report post Posted April 3, 2015 Should we even care anymore, clearly the guys on the ice stopped. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
derblaueClaus 1,668 Report post Posted April 3, 2015 Ya of course we could have... But it's not like we didn't have chances before we got the first one. We dominated the first and second. You can always say well we could have been down 2-0. The fact is that goalies get paid to play too and they are supposed to stop the puck No one's arguing that. But it's far too easy and wrong to blame this whole blow up on Mrazek. Especially after the over-overloading of our defense at the first goal. I'd say Mrazek still had a decent third. Our D not so much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted April 3, 2015 Given how crappily the Wings lost that game, I have to say I'm surprised how mellow it is here in the GDT. Everyone being pretty civil. The Wings are melting down more than this forum right now. It's eery. Has our spirit been broken? (and no, I'm not saying people should start acting out and personally attacking each other) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nyquistfan14 489 Report post Posted April 3, 2015 No one's arguing that. But it's far too easy and wrong to blame this whole blow up on Mrazek. Especially after the over-overloading of our defense at the first goal. I'd say Mrazek still had a decent third. Our D not so much. No I'm not saying its all on mrazek, but this team constantly has goalies letting in softys every game. We lose the goaltending battle way too many times. Somethings gotta change. I'd think about calling up marchenko as well, hopefully pav and cole are back sat or we lose again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
derblaueClaus 1,668 Report post Posted April 3, 2015 (edited) Given how crappily the Wings lost that game, I have to say I'm surprised how mellow it is here in the GDT. Everyone being pretty civil. The Wings are melting down more than this forum right now. It's eery. Has our spirit been broken? (and no, I'm not saying people should start acting out and personally attacking each other) We probably just got used to it. Which tells more about the state of the team right now than anything else..... Edited April 3, 2015 by derblaueClaus 2 roboturner and haroldsnepsts reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aethernum 276 Report post Posted April 3, 2015 From here on out, Detroit plays: Minnesota Washington Carolina Montreal Carolina While the Senators play: Washington Toronto Pittsburgh NY Rangers Philadelphia They have a harder schedule. We have the weight of 24 years of history motivating us to step up. And we have three points in hand. Detroit will make the playoffs. 1 chaps80 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nyquistfan14 489 Report post Posted April 3, 2015 Pav and cole better play Saturday, things are becoming desperate, time to start playing with injuries. 1 chaps80 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
derblaueClaus 1,668 Report post Posted April 3, 2015 No I'm not saying its all on mrazek, but this team constantly has goalies letting in softys every game. We lose the goaltending battle way too many times. Somethings gotta change. 100 % agreed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoWings! 179 Report post Posted April 3, 2015 Mrazek kept us from winning the game? Yet he's never uttered those words about Howard once the past 5 years? Wow...Hey Babcock how about figuring out how to beat Boston ever? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites