nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted July 2, 2015 (edited) Just heard on the radio .... Oshie For Brouwer and a 3rd as well as a goalie prospect. Washington wins this trade hands down Guessing for us it would have been helm/abdelkader +pick and patterson? Edited July 2, 2015 by nyqvististhefuture Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingsAlways 486 Report post Posted July 2, 2015 Blues got hosed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingsallTheway 383 Report post Posted July 2, 2015 Biggest fleecing I've seen in a long time... Really wishing Holland could get in on just one of these trades Oshie would be a great fit here. This is basically Abby + Patterson + 3rd Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,477 Report post Posted July 2, 2015 Am I the only one who doesn't think oshie is that great? Brouwer is bigger puts up more goals and has a smaller cap hit. I wouldn't trade Abby for oshie sorry. 4 PavelValerievichDatsyuk, Dr Dubya, dragonballgtz and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings87 1,290 Report post Posted July 2, 2015 (edited) Am I the only one who doesn't think oshie is that great? Brouwer is bigger puts up more goals and has a smaller cap hit. I wouldn't trade Abby for oshie sorry. He's a good player. Plus he's money in the shootout, and in today's NHL that's crazy valuable. Edited July 2, 2015 by wings87 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hairy Lime 234 Report post Posted July 2, 2015 Biggest fleecing I've seen in a long time... Really wishing Holland could get in on just one of these trades Oshie would be a great fit here. This is basically Abby + Patterson + 3rd Yeah, but Abby scored more goals than both of them last year and in fewer games, and he's younger. But Oshie had more points. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted July 2, 2015 What exactly are the Blues doing here? Didn't they just get bigger and slower? Have they made other moves this offseason? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingsallTheway 383 Report post Posted July 2, 2015 Yeah, but Abby scored more goals than both of them last year and in fewer games, and he's younger. But Oshie had more points. Obviously I could be wrong, but I can confidently say Abby won't be hitting 23 goals again. There is no question Oshie is a better hockey player than Abdelkader.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted July 2, 2015 I think this is to create capspace for Tarasenko otherwise it doesn't make sense at all, they gave Oshie away for peanuts 1 haroldsnepsts reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted July 2, 2015 Considering both teams defence cores and goalies, I like Washingtons adds of Williams and Oshie over Pittsburghs add of Kessel. Caps are gonna be dangerous next year. Glad we're not in the Metro haha. 1 laporte15 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richdg 267 Report post Posted July 2, 2015 Oshie is a very overrated player. 7 full years in the NHL only scored 20+ goals once-21. Those are 3rd line numbers not top 6. Big and growing cap hit as well. He is great in shootouts however. Now why did the Blues do this deal? they wanted to become a faster team. so they trade a guy with good speed for a guy with none.... odd...... 1 dragonballgtz reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted July 2, 2015 (edited) He's a good player. Plus he's money in the shootout, and in today's NHL that's crazy valuable. Can't say that anymore with the 3on3 possbility Edited July 2, 2015 by kickazz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted July 2, 2015 Oshie is a very overrated player. 7 full years in the NHL only scored 20+ goals once-21. Those are 3rd line numbers not top 6. Big and growing cap hit as well. He is great in shootouts however. Now why did the Blues do this deal? they wanted to become a faster team. so they trade a guy with good speed for a guy with none.... odd...... That's the head scratcher for me. I thought they said something about getting faster, instead they got slower and grittier. Old habits die hard I guess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings87 1,290 Report post Posted July 2, 2015 Can't say that anymore with the 3on3 possbility I don't think it'll make as much of a differance as people hope. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsyukian-Deke 722 Report post Posted July 2, 2015 Ugh...why are these teams in the east getting these great deals? First Columbus, now washington. The metro is gonna be crazy tough now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted July 2, 2015 Helm and Abby are not that valuable with both being UFA at the end of the year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlashyG 1,799 Report post Posted July 2, 2015 I don't think it'll make as much of a differance as people hope. In the AHL before 3 on 3 overtime 35.3% of games that went past regulation ended before the shootout. After going to 3 on 3, that number jumped to 75%. It should be even more effective in the NHL considering the NHL will have 5 full minutes of 3 on 3 vs the 4 minutes of 3 on 3 in the AHL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted July 2, 2015 Obv the real trade bait here was Phoenix Caupley. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings87 1,290 Report post Posted July 2, 2015 In the AHL before 3 on 3 overtime 35.3% of games that went past regulation ended before the shootout. After going to 3 on 3, that number jumped to 75%. It should be even more effective in the NHL considering the NHL will have 5 full minutes of 3 on 3 vs the 4 minutes of 3 on 3 in the AHL. Here's hoping the numbers hold up in the NHL. But even 25% could mean the difference between a playoff spot or being left out of the party. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted July 3, 2015 Helm and Abby are not that valuable with both being UFA at the end of the year. Players get dealt all the time at the deadline that are ufa's and get a nice return, prior to the last few seasons 1sts were always involved I'm sure if it was trade deadline day and we wanted to trade abdelkader to a contender we'd get a 2nd+ prospect or maybe 3rd in a different year That being said abdelkader has to stay and be resigned , we don't have to many guys that hit and are willing to crash the net Nobody will ever be holmstrom but he's our version of holmstrom on the ppl, needs to be locked up next contract for 4-5 yrs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted July 3, 2015 Players get dealt all the time at the deadline that are ufa's and get a nice return, prior to the last few seasons 1sts were always involved I'm sure if it was trade deadline day and we wanted to trade abdelkader to a contender we'd get a 2nd+ prospect or maybe 3rd in a different year That being said abdelkader has to stay and be resigned , we don't have to many guys that hit and are willing to crash the net Nobody will ever be holmstrom but he's our version of holmstrom on the ppl, needs to be locked up next contract for 4-5 yrs Nothing you are saying is wrong. I should have been more detailed in my response, my comment was in reference to people saying that they could have helped up land Oshie. They could be in the deal, but it would take alot more with them being soon to be UFA's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greenrebellion 415 Report post Posted July 3, 2015 Nothing you are saying is wrong. I should have been more detailed in my response, my comment was in reference to people saying that they could have helped up land Oshie. They could be in the deal, but it would take alot more with them being soon to be UFA's. Brouwer is a UFA after this season too though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted July 3, 2015 Brouwer is a UFA after this season too though. Oh wow! Is Pheonix Copley at least a stud in the making? If not, I dont get it. Though, I didnt realize Oshie only had 2 years left until he is a UFA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shinzaki 72 Report post Posted July 3, 2015 Abby is money on break aways...can't figure out why Babcock didn't use him in shootouts. His prowess on shootouts is just about the only reason I'd want Oshie here... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted July 3, 2015 Abby is money on break aways...can't figure out why Babcock didn't use him in shootouts. His prowess on shootouts is just about the only reason I'd want Oshie here... Why is this a thing? I don't know if any of you watch the NHL, but he's not good at shootouts. Oshie was only 36.4% in SO's last season. You know who did better than that? Literally a ton of guys. Lets list some names: Frans Nielsen, Tyler Ennis, Radim Vrbata, Chris Terry, Brandon Pirri, Nick Bonnino, Mats Zuccarello, David Perron, Antoine Vermette, PA Parenteau, Mike Santorelli, Gustav Nyquist, Jacob Josefson, Jakob Silverberg, the list goes on... And those aren't guys who took 1 shootout attempt and scored. Nyquist was 57% in SO's last season. Dramatically better than TJ freaking Oshie, but is Nyquist a SO specialist? No. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites