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Tatar, Athanasiou, and XO's new deals

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Frank, I would LOVE that contract, but I just don't see it happening. Especially with arbitration pending.


Agreed it would be great. Personally I think using him as an asset to get cap space and a pick for next year would make more sense

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why on earth would you want to move a guy who at least can score and has proven his worth that contract ? why not move Nyquist instead since his the exact player a tats but doesnt score as much 

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14 minutes ago, sjr2012 said:

why on earth would you want to move a guy who at least can score and has proven his worth that contract ? why not move Nyquist instead since his the exact player a tats but doesnt score as much 

No one is suggesting to trade Athanasiou just for the sake of trading him. Anyone that has brought him up in any trades is to bring in a top pair defenseman. A top pair defensemen is a much bigger need / hole to fill than top 6 winger. In order to get a top 2 defenseman, we're likely going to have to give up one of Larkin, Mantha, Athanasiou or Svechnikov. If one of those 4 need to be moved, it's one of the latter 2 for me. Of course we'd like to keep all 4 and trade one of Nyquist / Tatar, but for the same reason, other GM's are going to want one of the big 4, and not Nyquist / Tatar.

Ideal situation, we land a top 2 for Nyquist / Tatar, Hronek / Saarijarvi, and a pick. But it would likely take more than that. Which is why people have brought up AA in trade scenarios.

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“Arbitration is the last option, I have to sign off, it’s just a mandatory contract. Unless I agree with Detroit, I’ll go to the court, where they’ll give me a year’s contract. That would probably be my last season in Detroit. We’ll see in a few days or weeks before it all comes together,” said Tatar.

We only have so much cap. I know he is getting a raise, but not at the expense of AA. I trade BOTH Tatar and Nyquist before I don't have AA on this team.

Best case scenario, get AA signed before Tatar. 

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4 hours ago, LeftWinger said:

 

 

We only have so much cap. I know he is getting a raise, but not at the expense of AA. I trade BOTH Tatar and Nyquist before I don't have AA on this team.

Best case scenario, get AA signed before Tatar. 

I think you're over rating AA.  I think he's going to be a decent player but you're acting like he's some kind of future star.

 

Would a one year deal take Tatar to UFA status?

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1 hour ago, DickieDunn said:

I think you're over rating AA.  I think he's going to be a decent player but you're acting like he's some kind of future star.

 

Would a one year deal take Tatar to UFA status?

Tatar has said that if he goes to arbitration and is awarded the 1-year contract that that would be his last contract signed in Detroit.  I'm not liking this tactic of either trying to get Kenny to give him a better deal/longer term or really just wanting to be in Detroit much longer.  I'd trade him in a heartbeat.  Yes, he can score goals, but he is mostly one-dimensional.  He scored 25 goals last season but didn't crack 50 points.  Would I prefer him over Nyquist?  Absolutely, but the reality is that we have Nyquist for 2 more seasons and I don't see Kenny being able to move his contract unless he has a good bounce-back season.  You have guys like Mantha, A2, Svechnikov, Bertuzzi, Frk... I'm not worried about losing Tatar or Nyquist.  I believe Mantha and A2 both have 30+ goal potential.  

55 minutes ago, krsmith17 said:

Yes. I think if he re-signs for one year he will likely walk after this season.

It would be another indictment of Holland if we lose Tatar for nothing.  After what he said, if he gets a 1-year deal, you trade him as soon and for as much as you can get.  Probably futures.

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21 minutes ago, MileHighWingsGuy said:

I'd rather see Tatar and Nyquist traded and sign Vanek, he was more fun to watch.

Hell, I'd even take Jagr.  I'm definitely on board with this though.  I wouldn't mind keeping Tatar over Nyquist.  It just seems like Tatar doesn't want to play here given his recent interview.

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7 minutes ago, SwedeLundin77 said:

Hell, I'd even take Jagr.  I'm definitely on board with this though.  I wouldn't mind keeping Tatar over Nyquist.  It just seems like Tatar doesn't want to play here given his recent interview.

Id want out if I was him.  Our GM is an idiot.

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1 minute ago, DickieDunn said:

3 years ago Tatar and Nyquist were untouchable, now people want the dumped in favor of old one dimensional vets

Take out the trash and fire Holland and Blash!!!!!!
 

Can't imagine Tatar for $5Mill per lol. That's the kind of crap that continues to hamstring us financially. Sign production for a year or two (Vanek) and work Bertuzzi and Svechnikov into the rotation. Holland has needed to make some transition trades for years and Tatar is a prime example.

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I don't like the attitude. Trade his rights for a pick now. 

And yes, AA Will be a future star. I give him $2M per yr. today for 3 yrs. 

It's situations like this that rub fans the wrong way. After reading this, I'm out on Tatar.

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Are people ACTUALLY surprised by Tatar's attitude? Didn't that one member here, Jukelwitz or whatever his name is kept telling us that Tatar and Mrazek have attitude issues when it came to Detroit in their interviews back home? 

Now that the English interview is done it's more believable I guess. 

Anyways, I see this as an opportunity for us. If he gets that forced 1 year deal then we can flip him over in the 2018 trade deadline for a defenseman or a 1st round pick (depending on how he does this year). 

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Are people ACTUALLY surprised by Tatar's attitude? Didn't that one member here, Jukelwitz or whatever his name is kept telling us that Tatar and Mrazek have attitude issues when it came to Detroit in their interviews back home? 
Now that the English interview is done it's more believable I guess. 
Anyways, I see this as an opportunity for us. If he gets that forced 1 year deal then we can flip him over in the 2018 trade deadline for a defenseman or a 1st round pick (depending on how he does this year). 

Would you be happy playing for a team that was ok with being mediocre?

Take out the trash and fire Holland and Blash!!!!!!

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48 minutes ago, DickieDunn said:


Would you be happy playing for a team that was ok with being mediocre?
 

Happy? there is no happy or sad, he's pissed they aren't giving him more money. Obviously he would stay long term if the contract met HIS terms. 

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Happy? there is no happy or sad, he's pissed they aren't giving him more money. Obviously he would stay long term if the contract met HIS terms. 

Would you be ok with your boss paying you less than you're worth?

Take out the trash and fire Holland and Blash!!!!!!

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2 hours ago, DickieDunn said:


Would you be ok with your boss paying you less than you're worth?

Take out the trash and fire Holland and Blash!!!!!!
 

Who said hes paying him less than he's worth? Maybe Tatar wants more than he's worth.

In fact, based off all our signings in recent years, I'd say Holland pays players just fine. Overpaid a few. 

2 hours ago, DickieDunn said:



Take out the trash and fire Holland and Blash!!!!!!
 

The boy who cried wolf

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