krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted July 2, 2018 8 minutes ago, LeftWinger said: Mathews for Karlsson. Not even close. They might be able to get Nylander for Karlsson, but Matthews would be a hard no. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,014 Report post Posted July 2, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: Not even close. They might be able to get Nylander for Karlsson, but Matthews would be a hard no. They could get Nylander and a 1st and probably a 2nd. That winger is overrated. No way Ottawa trade him to the Leafs. 30 minutes ago, Wheelchairsuperhero said: I think a lot of us also want to see Babcock fail specifically. How dare he choose another gir-.... COUGH..... team over us! Babcock 's an *******. He belongs there. Edited July 2, 2018 by The 91 of Ryans 1 Wheelchairsuperhero reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted July 2, 2018 10 minutes ago, The 91 of Ryans said: They could get Nylander and a 1st and probably a 2nd. That winger is overrated. No way Ottawa trade him to the Leafs. I agree that there's no way they trade him to Toronto, my point was just that Karlsson (one year before becoming a UFA) doesn't come close to getting Matthews. I agree that they would probably get more than Nylander, but I doubt it would be a whole lot more, because Karlsson will most definitely test the open market next summer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kylee 727 Report post Posted July 2, 2018 7 hours ago, LoveMyRedWings56 said: Lose Tavares and gain Filppula, And we thought Detroit was bad. Not a great day to be an Islanders fan that’s for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwedeLundin77 460 Report post Posted July 2, 2018 58 minutes ago, kylee said: Not a great day to be an Islanders fan that’s for sure. That's what happens when you fumble almost everything and don't get the guy extended early. The arena issues seemed to be a big part of his decision, too. I wonder if they'll try and bring Kieffer Bellows up this season and have him skip the AHL now. They should sign Kari Lehtonen or if they can get him cheap, Steve Mason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,962 Report post Posted July 2, 2018 (edited) or the Iles should revisit acquiring Jimmy Howard. BTW Daniel Renouf to Carolina. 1 year $650,000. Edited July 2, 2018 by LeftWinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,014 Report post Posted July 2, 2018 40 minutes ago, LeftWinger said: or the Iles should revisit acquiring Jimmy Howard. BTW Daniel Renouf to Carolina. 1 year $650,000. Another guy lost for nothing. NOTHING!!! Keep nibblin on those Wing 's scraps Carolina... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted July 2, 2018 1 hour ago, LeftWinger said: or the Iles should revisit acquiring Jimmy Howard. BTW Daniel Renouf to Carolina. 1 year $650,000. Weird. He's a pretty irrelevant Dman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted July 2, 2018 So if you replace JT with Filppula, do you then replace Filppula with Yashin? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LoveMyRedWings56 73 Report post Posted July 2, 2018 3 hours ago, kylee said: Not a great day to be an Islanders fan that’s for sure. Definitely Not, So watch Lou offer sheet Matthews next summer too spite Dubas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wingnut1989 165 Report post Posted July 3, 2018 sens grant teams to talk to karlsson, hope were in on this https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/senators-grant-teams-permission-talk-extension-karlsson/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,476 Report post Posted July 3, 2018 7 hours ago, krsmith17 said: I agree that there's no way they trade him to Toronto, my point was just that Karlsson (one year before becoming a UFA) doesn't come close to getting Matthews. I agree that they would probably get more than Nylander, but I doubt it would be a whole lot more, because Karlsson will most definitely test the open market next summer. Sorry I disagree, Matthews for karlsson is fair. A norris defenseman, offensive powerhouse, is worth more than a same caliber center. Its the truth, whether you want to decrease the value of a dman is up to you, but Edmonton trading hall for Larsson just proves my point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brett 1,029 Report post Posted July 3, 2018 blown away that JT went to leaves...really think youll get a cup there buddy, theyre not much better then the islanders Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted July 3, 2018 31 minutes ago, Euro_Twins said: Sorry I disagree, Matthews for karlsson is fair. A norris defenseman, offensive powerhouse, is worth more than a same caliber center. Its the truth, whether you want to decrease the value of a dman is up to you, but Edmonton trading hall for Larsson just proves my point. All things being equal regarding age and contract status I would agree. The problem is, those things aren't close to being equal, which is why there's no way the Leafs would ever entertain the idea of trading Matthews for Karlsson. It would be utterly dumb to trade a 20 year old Matthews, one year away from RFA for a 28 year old Karlsson, one year away from UFA. The younger, equally as good (arguably better) center that is still under team control, holds much more value than the much old defenseman that is no longer under team control in my opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted July 3, 2018 (edited) Not sure if its been talked about (havent seen it) but Street and Lorito were both signed by other teams. https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/ducks-sign-centre-ben-street-one-year-deal/ https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/hockey/news/islanders-matt-lorito-inks-deal-with-islanders/ So that's Lorito, Street Renouf, Coreau all gone. Tangradi, Elson, Nastasuik, McCollum still UFA's. Edited July 3, 2018 by kliq Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,476 Report post Posted July 3, 2018 1 hour ago, krsmith17 said: All things being equal regarding age and contract status I would agree. The problem is, those things aren't close to being equal, which is why there's no way the Leafs would ever entertain the idea of trading Matthews for Karlsson. It would be utterly dumb to trade a 20 year old Matthews, one year away from RFA for a 28 year old Karlsson, one year away from UFA. The younger, equally as good (arguably better) center that is still under team control, holds much more value than the much old defenseman that is no longer under team control in my opinion. Maybe but its also not necessarily what the market dictates Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted July 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Euro_Twins said: Maybe but its also not necessarily what the market dictates There's no way Ottawa gets a Matthews caliber player for Karlsson. That's my point. Karlsson will likely be traded for a good (not great) player, a prospect, and multiple picks. No pieces being elite. In the end Ottawa will lose this trade, because it's Ottawa and they lose everything, and they just handled this whole situation about as badly as they possibly could have... 1 e_prime reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TLGTrico 627 Report post Posted July 3, 2018 2 hours ago, kliq said: Not sure if its been talked about (havent seen it) but Street and Lorito were both signed by other teams. https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/ducks-sign-centre-ben-street-one-year-deal/ https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/hockey/news/islanders-matt-lorito-inks-deal-with-islanders/ So that's Lorito, Street Renouf, Coreau all gone. Tangradi, Elson, Nastasuik, McCollum still UFA's. Elson signed an AHL deal with Grand Rapids. 1 kliq reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted July 3, 2018 1 hour ago, kliq said: Not sure if its been talked about (havent seen it) but Street and Lorito were both signed by other teams. https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/ducks-sign-centre-ben-street-one-year-deal/ https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/hockey/news/islanders-matt-lorito-inks-deal-with-islanders/ So that's Lorito, Street Renouf, Coreau all gone. Tangradi, Elson, Nastasuik, McCollum still UFA's. Street and Lorito are significant losses, but Chris Terry is a big addition, along with Wade Megan. I think those two will more than make up for the loss of Street and Lorito. Hopefully Tangradi is re-signed. He's been a great leader, big point producer, and body guard for the kids. I think losing him would be a huge loss for GR. I also hope they re-sign Puempel. He seemed to fit in well down there. Elson has already been re-signed. I doubt Nastasiuk will be re-signed. He just hasn't been able to do much of anything at the pro level. Renouf and Russo aren't really big losses, and one of them was already replaced by Jake Chelios. We needed to shed at least one defenseman anyway, to give more ice time to Hronek (if he doesn't make the Wings) as well as Saarijarvi and Cholowski. Coreau was a good minor league goaltender, but with the signings of Patrik Rybar and Harri Sateri, it's not a huge loss. I also think those two signings may force McCollum out as well, which isn't really a bad thing. 2 Keep Your Stick On the Ice and kliq reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted July 3, 2018 2 hours ago, TLGTrico said: Elson signed an AHL deal with Grand Rapids. Must have missed that since it was just an AHL signing, thanks for clarifying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kylee 727 Report post Posted July 3, 2018 8 hours ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said: So if you replace JT with Filppula, do you then replace Filppula with Yashin? At least they only have to pay Filppula for 1 year Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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amato 3,210 Report post Posted July 3, 2018 13 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: “Yeah, I’ll wait until I hit RFA status..” -Matthews, probably Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted July 3, 2018 46 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: Make Offer Sheets A Thing Again 1 e_prime reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted July 3, 2018 Red Wings NOT in on Karlsson trade. Looking to 2019 free agency instead. 2 Dabura and krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
