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2023 Offseason Thread

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4 hours ago, marcaractac said:

Zadina cleared waivers. Lmao. 

For the billionth time, he's a lousy hockey player... #OGZadinaTruther

4 hours ago, marcaractac said:

He'll get waived again when he doesn't win a roster spot and end up overseas. Whether it's via buyout or a loan, who knows. 

This would make me 100% correct, as I said he'd be playing in Europe by 2024. 

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1 hour ago, The 91 of Ryans said:

Zadina is completely f***ed. All out of excuses and asks. Yzerman's got him by the nards now. 

I dont get the feeling Yzerman is vindictive.  I feel like its the opposite.  Zadina's agent asked for a fresh start, so Yzerman did what he could to give him that.  Truth is, Zadina needs to spend a year in GR and get stronger and faster.  He is not a bad hockey player.  He's just not a goal scorer.  He fooled Holland, and that sucks for us.  But I dont have a problem with him staying a 2 mil a year 3rd line LW that can slot in up and down the lineup when injuries happen.  We need to get our expectations to that level, tho.

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6 minutes ago, Jonas Mahonas said:

I dont get the feeling Yzerman is vindictive.  I feel like its the opposite.  Zadina's agent asked for a fresh start, so Yzerman did what he could to give him that.  Truth is, Zadina needs to spend a year in GR and get stronger and faster.  He is not a bad hockey player.  He's just not a goal scorer.  He fooled Holland, and that sucks for us.  But I dont have a problem with him staying a 2 mil a year 3rd line LW that can slot in up and down the lineup when injuries happen.  We need to get our expectations to that level, tho.

He's not that player... if he's not scoring, he's not effective.  The defensive forward nonsense is just that... nonsense. 

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Zadina doesn't hurt anyone or score and he has next to no instinct.     He can backcheck though which is great if you can do at least one other positive thing.   He doesn't even forecheck with conviction.   

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7 minutes ago, LeftWinger said:

So, according to this, it’s between the Wings and the Islanders. Steve and Lou. I’m sure Dorion is doing great in these negotiations. 

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5 minutes ago, Jonas Mahonas said:

Wings are going to finalize Mazur, Zadina,+ 2024 Boston pick.

Are we sure Ottawa are gonna get a 1st? I’m thinking something more like the return for Dubois. A 2nd++. Who do we got on the same level as Gabe Vilardi? Iafallo equals Kubalik and Kupari maybe Veleno.

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51 minutes ago, Akakabuto said:

Are we sure Ottawa are gonna get a 1st? I’m thinking something more like the return for Dubois. A 2nd++. Who do we got on the same level as Gabe Vilardi? Iafallo equals Kubalik and Kupari maybe Veleno.

Im not ready to give up on Veleno.  2024 2nd, McIsaac, Zadina.  That work?

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Ffs don't trade Mazur unless you're getting a gritty scoring winger in return. That kid got it. 

The assets to give up for DeBrincat should not be anything too crazy. There is a very limited market for him, and he is probably closer to the player he was in Ottawa than he was in Chicago (because of Kane). 

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18 minutes ago, Akakabuto said:

Just in general or did you hear something?

Just read this https://www.freep.com/story/sports/nhl/red-wings/2023/07/05/detroit-red-wings-carter-mazur-prospects-development-camp/70381689007/

and from the article

Mazur sees a role for himself as a player: "I like pissing people off, that’s a big part of my game," he said. "I love chirping, getting under other people’s skin, I don’t care who you are. It’s something I enjoy and it makes hockey a lot of fun."

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I hope Mazur is not part of a deal. Especially if there's a 1st going back. It's obvious Zadina isn't going anywhere, as nobody wants him. A 7th round is probably more valuable in trade than he is right now. 

I don't know which players would be going back, but I sure hope it's not Mazur.

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4 hours ago, AtlantaHotWings said:

I love this attitude ...

 

Outwork, Outlift, Outskate, Outhit, Outscore, Outdefend, Outhustle.  Simple as that.  Zadina needs to be better.  He was supposed to have natural ability to score goals.  It's clear he does not.  His shot and shot range is 5/10 at best.  That being said,this doesnt make him useless.  He's 23 years old.  He needs to pull his head out of his ass and put in his time.  If not, hello Europe.

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