Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted February 22, 2024 11 hours ago, LeftWinger said: I guess we have to ask ourselves then if we trade Berggren for a top 4 D, are we taking a bigger step forward in the NHL, or are we taking a bigger step back when it comes to prospects. Chychrun being 25 definitely becomes one of our core players, but is there enough fwd prospects to make up for the potential loss of Berggren? I'm not sure we can call Berggren a prospect at this point. He seems to be more like an NHLer who Yzerman simply isn't all that high on (anymore), if only because we have a pretty deep forward group and he's become kinda redundant. Maybe that's a misread on my part. But I do feel like the shine has faded, at least in Yzerman's eyes. Chychrun's a very good point-producing defenseman. If we could get him for a 1st + Berggren + Wallinder, I'd do it in a heartbeat. He'd immediately become our second-best defenseman. My one concern with him, long-term, is that he's always hurt. But, point is, I'd take my chances if the package is largely centered on Berggren. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,019 Report post Posted February 22, 2024 9 scouts in Grand Rapids tonight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Motor City Mullets 304 Report post Posted February 22, 2024 (edited) 24 minutes ago, The 91 of Ryans said: 9 scouts in Grand Rapids tonight. nvrmnd Edited February 22, 2024 by Motor City Mullets Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Troy McClure 347 Report post Posted February 22, 2024 11 hours ago, The 91 of Ryans said: 9 scouts in Grand Rapids tonight. Heres an interesting one. Detroit has been heavily scouting Boston recently. Not sure if this means anything for the TDL. But it wouldnt surprise me if SY makes a move to pry Swayman out of there in the near future... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,756 Report post Posted February 22, 2024 According to The Athletic's trade board, Pittsburgh is shopping Reilly Smith. Anyone who has been around LGW for a while knows I love me some Reilly Smith. I'd imagine the acquisition cost would be reasonable too considering Pittsburgh has no picks or prospects in their organization at the moment and Dubas has so idiotically built this team that it's become necessary to strip the thing for parts less than a year after his "master plan" was initiated. Talk about a dude with playoff experience. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Troy McClure 347 Report post Posted February 22, 2024 31 minutes ago, kipwinger said: According to The Athletic's trade board, Pittsburgh is shopping Reilly Smith. Anyone who has been around LGW for a while knows I love me some Reilly Smith. I'd imagine the acquisition cost would be reasonable too considering Pittsburgh has no picks or prospects in their organization at the moment and Dubas has so idiotically built this team that it's become necessary to strip the thing for parts less than a year after his "master plan" was initiated. Talk about a dude with playoff experience. Dubas said yesterday hes shopping everyone except his core Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,756 Report post Posted February 22, 2024 15 minutes ago, Troy McClure said: Dubas said yesterday hes shopping everyone except his core I never cease to be amazed by this whiz kid. He's doing the same thing he did in Toronto, but with players that are 12 years older. What a brilliant hockey mind. 1 town123 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,756 Report post Posted February 22, 2024 On 2/1/2024 at 2:36 PM, Axl Foley said: He might. But.it wont be Kakko for the reasons I have already said. Here's another reason why it won't be Kakko: He's a f*cking loser. I swear Red Wings fans drive me crazy sometimes. Fans: Michael Rasmussen is a bum who never lived up to his draft position. He scores at a .4 ppg rate and Yzerman needs to give him a "change of scenery". Also fans: Now that Puljujarvi is off the market we should target Kakko. I mean, he scores at a .4 ppg rate and just needs a change in scenery to thrive. Yay!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scott R Lucidi 675 Report post Posted February 22, 2024 https://octopusthrower.com/posts/radar-trades-launch-red-wings-playoffs-01hq71aq2hm6 Really good cocepts here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,019 Report post Posted February 22, 2024 4 minutes ago, Scott R Lucidi said: https://octopusthrower.com/posts/radar-trades-launch-red-wings-playoffs-01hq71aq2hm6 Really good cocepts here I love me a good cocept 1 Scott R Lucidi reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scott R Lucidi 675 Report post Posted February 22, 2024 5 minutes ago, The 91 of Ryans said: I love me a good cocept im such a dumb fv ck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
town123 235 Report post Posted February 22, 2024 I too like a highly regarded cocept. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtlantaHotWings 1,126 Report post Posted February 22, 2024 (edited) Anyone else see this? Edited March 22, 2024 by AtlantaHotWings added info 1 town123 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Troy McClure 347 Report post Posted February 22, 2024 57 minutes ago, AtlantaHotWings said: Anyone else see this? Make him play for the griffs till hes 27 1 2 AtlantaHotWings, Rick D and Motor City Mullets reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,019 Report post Posted February 23, 2024 2 hours ago, AtlantaHotWings said: Anyone else see this? Phuckin pizza face loser Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Troy McClure 347 Report post Posted February 23, 2024 9 hours ago, Troy McClure said: Heres an interesting one. Detroit has been heavily scouting Boston recently. Not sure if this means anything for the TDL. But it wouldnt surprise me if SY makes a move to pry Swayman out of there in the near future... I guess Wings scouts could have also been scouting Boston's opponents now that I think about it. Based on what Adam Kerr from the grindline podcast reported this would have been Calgary, Seattle, Washington, and LA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Motor City Mullets 304 Report post Posted February 23, 2024 1 hour ago, The 91 of Ryans said: Phuckin pizza face loser Can't say that I blame him though...Chances are he'd likely be a roster player on most teams in this league...I'd likely want out too if I were in his position. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mackel 764 Report post Posted February 23, 2024 47 minutes ago, Motor City Mullets said: Can't say that I blame him though...Chances are he'd likely be a roster player on most teams in this league...I'd likely want out too if I were in his position. If they continue to play with fire by icing a lineup with a number of mid vets leaving prospects in the AHL, this will happen again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,019 Report post Posted February 23, 2024 Just now, mackel said: If they continue to play with fire by icing a lineup with a number of mid vets leaving prospects in the AHL, this will happen again. Oh please. Bergrren is the 1st prospect they've done this with. Too much Johnny hype around here these days tbh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Troy McClure 347 Report post Posted February 23, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, The 91 of Ryans said: Oh please. Bergrren is the 1st prospect they've done this with. Too much Johnny hype around here these days tbh Beggren would have more worth if we played him. We are going to get less because we didn't. He seems to me like he will be pretty productive elsewhere. Not angry about it, but probably not the best handling of things on SY's part. Edited February 23, 2024 by Troy McClure Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,019 Report post Posted February 23, 2024 7 hours ago, Troy McClure said: Beggren would have more worth if we played him. We are going to get less because we didn't. He seems to me like he will be pretty productive elsewhere. Not angry about it, but probably not the best handling of things on SY's part. Sure maybe. Maybe not. Not what Mack and I were talking about though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Troy McClure 347 Report post Posted February 23, 2024 2 hours ago, The 91 of Ryans said: Sure maybe. Maybe not. Not what Mack and I were talking about though. I remember Tatar being pissed about being left in the AHL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,756 Report post Posted February 23, 2024 I'm not really sure we can jump from "Berggren didn't sign THIS contract" to "Berggren doesn't want to sign ANY contract". Players reject initial offers all the time. Team offers them a two-year deal, they turn it down because they want three. Team offers a two-way contract, they turn it down because they want a one way deal. If I recall correctly Larkin turned down a few deals before settling in on the one he signed. I DO think it's likely Berggren gets moved, but I already thought that before this "report" came out. Turning down a contract offer doesn't mean anything. I can't imagine Rasmussen put pen to paper on the very first deal Yzerman threw his way either. There's a reason why we have a word for "counter offer". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Troy McClure 347 Report post Posted February 23, 2024 6 minutes ago, kipwinger said: I'm not really sure we can jump from "Berggren didn't sign THIS contract" to "Berggren doesn't want to sign ANY contract". Players reject initial offers all the time. Team offers them a two-year deal, they turn it down because they want three. Team offers a two-way contract, they turn it down because they want a one way deal. If I recall correctly Larkin turned down a few deals before settling in on the one he signed. I DO think it's likely Berggren gets moved, but I already thought that before this "report" came out. Turning down a contract offer doesn't mean anything. I can't imagine Rasmussen put pen to paper on the very first deal Yzerman threw his way either. There's a reason why we have a word for "counter offer". Pagnotta is also the king of repackaging the obvious to seem like an insider. >everyone knows Berggren has been trade bait all year Pagnotta: Berggren rejects offer, wants to be traded >everyone knows Guentzel is being traded Pagnotta: Animated discussions about Guenztals future in pittsburgh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,019 Report post Posted February 23, 2024 21 minutes ago, Troy McClure said: I remember Tatar being pissed about being left in the AHL. I remember Zadina being pissed about being left in the AHL 1 kipwinger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites