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#2015328 Red Wings re-sign Derek Meech

Posted by NeverForgetMac25 on 15 July 2010 - 02:25 PM

Despite what the article says, I again say Meech only needs to crack top-seven. If the Wings sign a UFA, then they have their current top four, plus Ericsson, Kindl, Meech, and UFA-guy. You can assume the UFA is at least going to be good enough to be top-six, otherwise there's no reason to sign him, right? So Ericsson, Kindl, and Meech are competing for the last two spots. And even in that situation, as I said before, Meech would basically have to play his way out of the top seven top be traded, rather than secure a spot in it, because it doesn't make sense for the Wings to keep Ericsson and Kindl rotating in the #6 spot playing partial seasons and minimal minutes per game, when one could be traded to a team needing an NHL ready young d-man for picks/prospects and Meech could still serve as one of if not the best #7 defenseman in the NHL. Yes he's older and doesn't have the top-pair potential that Kindl has... but if Kindl can't make the top six either, he'll get MUCH more than Meech in a trade just from his youth and potential, even if Meech is playing better.

We can speculate all we want, but I could post reason after reason as to why Kenny would try to hang onto both E and Kindl given a veteran 5/6th Dman is brought in. It's just as likely that Kindl's potential isn't something Kenny and Co. want to move at this point. While not ideal, Babs could run a revolving door on the 5-6 pairing amongst those three (E, Kindl, Veteran UFA) to help get Kindl acclimated and keep the team competitive. Besides, having a light work-load next year isn't exactly going to kill E or Kindl. Meech doesn't have the upside Kindl does and both Lidstrom and Rafalski are nearing the ends of their careers, which makes retaining someone as young and with more potential than Meech necessary. Meech's contract is more attractive to teams fighting the salary cap next season and there's less risk given the one-year deal. Shall I continue?

The list goes on and on, and its not as simple as just, Kindl will get "MUCH" more in a trade. The Wings brass may not be looking for getting the most out of a trade, rather hanging onto what they consider potential pieces of the puzzle for the future. Meech likely isn't one of them. E more likely, and Kindl even moreso, are.


#2015263 Red Wings re-sign Derek Meech

Posted by wingsfaninMA on 15 July 2010 - 11:54 AM

Get a load of this guy. Stevkrause is obviously right here, read what he said guy. It is basically an Entry level contract because he is entering the NHL on this contract and its make or break for him is what he is saying.

Stev is one of the more knowledgeable posters on here and youre clearly on here being a clown but I can't figure out why?

He played in the NHL two years ago on his elc.

stev also thought huet was canadian. smart guy.


#2015257 Red Wings re-sign Derek Meech

Posted by newfy on 15 July 2010 - 11:45 AM

rofl...

okay

Get a load of this guy. Stevkrause is obviously right here, read what he said guy. It is basically an Entry level contract because he is entering the NHL on this contract and its make or break for him is what he is saying.

Stev is one of the more knowledgeable posters on here and youre clearly on here being a clown but I can't figure out why?


#2015252 Red Wings re-sign Derek Meech

Posted by stevkrause on 15 July 2010 - 11:34 AM

Meech hasnt sucked as hard as Lebda IMO, so im fine with him being our 13th forward 7th defenseman although he will probably still be traded.

Agreed 100% - couple that with how much younger he is and I would take Meech over Lebda eve at the same cap hit...


#2015242 Red Wings re-sign Derek Meech

Posted by stevkrause on 15 July 2010 - 11:11 AM

I can't fathom how Holland would consider trading him, unless we sign another defenseman. What happened to defensive depth? If we signed nobody else AND traded Meech, we'd be in a boatload of trouble if any injuries came up.

no need to panic, we have Janik!


#2015238 Red Wings re-sign Derek Meech

Posted by wingsfaninMA on 15 July 2010 - 10:55 AM

man, you're really reaching to prove me wrong...

all I ever said, was that it was the similar in what it meant in terms of making the team, I never said anything about it's actual contractual, or monetary value and if you read what I posted without your head in your ass, it was pretty clear...

pretty weak...

rofl...

okay


#2015237 Red Wings re-sign Derek Meech

Posted by stevkrause on 15 July 2010 - 10:51 AM

So its an elc based on ur own personal rare opinion on what an elc is. Ok keep trying.

Its not an elc. End of story. It's not even close to an elc. there no such thing as being close to an elc. an elc had restrictions, incentives, term limits, etc. Ritola has nothing of that sort applied to him.

man, you're really reaching to prove me wrong...

all I ever said, was that it was the similar in what it meant in terms of making the team, I never said anything about it's actual contractual, or monetary value and if you read what I posted without your head in your ass, it was pretty clear...

pretty weak...


#2015227 Red Wings re-sign Derek Meech

Posted by wingsfaninMA on 15 July 2010 - 10:39 AM

Go re-read the original post - I said more or less, because even though he already had his entry level deal, this is the same type of deal IN THE SENSE that it's a "show us enough to keep you deal"...

Also, although it isn't REQUIRED, if you followed the way the Wings brass runs things, they generally don't sign players to their entry level deals, until they're ready to put them in GR...

Keep trying though...

So its an elc based on ur own personal rare opinion on what an elc is. Ok keep trying.

Its not an elc. End of story. It's not even close to an elc. there no such thing as being close to an elc. an elc had restrictions, incentives, term limits, etc. Ritola has nothing of that sort applied to him.


#2015224 Red Wings re-sign Derek Meech

Posted by stevkrause on 15 July 2010 - 10:34 AM

You can only sign one entry level deal there is no more or less. it is or isnt.

I know you'll say that you knew this even though u obviously didnt -- but an elc does not allow someone to play in the ahl.

Go re-read the original post - I said more or less, because even though he already had his entry level deal, this is the same type of deal IN THE SENSE that it's a "show us enough to keep you deal"...

Also, although it isn't REQUIRED, if you followed the way the Wings brass runs things, they generally don't sign players to their entry level deals, until they're ready to put them in GR...

Keep trying though...


#2015220 Red Wings re-sign Derek Meech

Posted by wingsfaninMA on 15 July 2010 - 10:28 AM

more or less... he already signed his entry level deal to play for GR, but this is more or less an entry level deal, as it's either "make Detroit's roster, or bust"

You can only sign one entry level deal there is no more or less. it is or isnt.

I know you'll say that you knew this even though u obviously didnt -- but an elc does not allow someone to play in the ahl.


#2015206 Red Wings re-sign Derek Meech

Posted by stevkrause on 15 July 2010 - 10:05 AM

pretty sure almost none of that is true.

pretty sure all of it is...

look for yourself - http://www.capgeek.c...play.php?id=297

He already had his entry level contract, otherwise, wouldn't have been eligible for GR, if Modano is added, there is a good chance that Ritolas and Miller battle for the final roster spot in camp and the loser of the battle gets traded, the other basically sits in the press box, unless they WAY outplay someone else or there's an injury.

wow 500k? how is he going to sleep at night knowing Lebda makes 1.45m!!! hahah .. GReat f'n sign btw.

yea, no kidding... I feel bad for any d-man in the league making less than him, as it's got to just feel unfair to them - "why is a pylon making more than me?"


#2015187 Red Wings re-sign Derek Meech

Posted by stevkrause on 15 July 2010 - 09:11 AM

ooh my bad...it's just ritola has been the main object for a trade if Modano signs here, that's it. Is ritola's contract a 3-year entry level deal?

more or less... he already signed his entry level deal to play for GR, but this is more or less an entry level deal, as it's either "make Detroit's roster, or bust"


#2015183 Red Wings re-sign Derek Meech

Posted by mindfly on 15 July 2010 - 09:03 AM

ooh my bad...it's just ritola has been the main object for a trade if Modano signs here, that's it. Is ritola's contract a 3-year entry level deal?


#2015181 Red Wings re-sign Derek Meech

Posted by mindfly on 15 July 2010 - 08:58 AM

Is that a good source? Ritola appear to be signed there too


#2015164 Red Wings Making Play for Modano

Posted by SweWings on 15 July 2010 - 07:28 AM

No, Modano has a Cup Ring.

And he sucks.