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#2024964 Wings sign Ruslan Salei

Posted by Guest on 10 August 2010 - 07:14 PM

I don't consider guys like Sutton or Hnidy to be enforcers.

You guys are just stereotyping based on my previous posts in other threads. Here, we're talking about tough 3rd pair defensemen and not wingers who are straight up enforcers like Boogaard. That's changing the topic and talking about the 4th line, which is not what I'm doing in this thread, although I have done it before in those threads.

I just want to know why posters criticize defensemen who can't skate and take occasional bad penalties, and then they praise this signing. It seems hypocritical to me and I don't think it's because Salei is perceived as being really good all around, because he's really not. He's a straight up defensive defenseman, just like many of the other players me and several other posters have wanted.

Babcock loves the guy, isn't that enough for ya? If he thinks he's the guy to get the job done then he really is.. :thumbup:


#2024952 Wings sign Ruslan Salei

Posted by Guest on 10 August 2010 - 06:40 PM

Name me one Stanley Cup we won where we "needed" our 3rd pairing to produce offensively?

I can't think of any.

I don't think we signed him for his offense any more than we did Bob Rouse, Andreas Lija or anyone else who played on our 3rd pairing in past years. He was brought in for his defensive play more than anything else.

All around play is what guys like Lidstrom and Kronwall log the big icetime for.

You wouldn't be happy with a wings' signing if unless they are Boogaard's, Worrel's and just plain goons.. (and yeah physical hard playing NA's but to get them you must trade pavel/zetterberg etc)


#2024948 Wings sign Ruslan Salei

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 10 August 2010 - 06:19 PM

Maybe because Salei has some all-around ability?


Name me one Stanley Cup we won where we "needed" our 3rd pairing to produce offensively?

I can't think of any.

I don't think we signed him for his offense any more than we did Bob Rouse, Andreas Lija or anyone else who played on our 3rd pairing in past years. He was brought in for his defensive play more than anything else.

All around play is what guys like Lidstrom and Kronwall log the big icetime for.


#2024939 Wings sign Ruslan Salei

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 10 August 2010 - 06:00 PM

If I remember correctly, Salei has never been an adept skater, and is known for taking dumb penalties from time to time.

Many posters here have adamantly criticized others who have wanted a tough defenseman of some kind, for the same reasons as those I listed above. Yet those same posters have praised Salei without reserve.

Hypocrites?


#2024927 Wings sign Ruslan Salei

Posted by robb himself on 10 August 2010 - 04:30 PM

what do you guys feel about these d-combos?

Lidstrom, Kronwall
Rafalski, Salei
Stuart, Ericsson/Kindl


I like it a lot myself...thoughts?



:thumbup:


#2024914 Wings sign Ruslan Salei

Posted by titanium2 on 10 August 2010 - 03:25 PM

Ducks. Denver. Deetroit. It was probably meant to be. :ph34r:


Don't you mean, "It was probably meant to D"? :ph34r:


#2024814 Wings sign Ruslan Salei

Posted by Guest on 10 August 2010 - 12:15 PM

I think Meech would appreciate a deal to another team, i think he's a bit tired of being the extra d-man when he would have a no 5 or 6 spot on many other teams.


#2025151 Wings' Goaltending Situation

Posted by Guest on 11 August 2010 - 12:41 PM

No one demands he should make 40+ saves and stand on his head, all we demand is he save the must-save shots, control rebounds better and play a solid all around game, letting in 0-2goals per game, sometimes perhaps 3 and the wings team should load up the W's anyways.


#2025142 Wings' Goaltending Situation

Posted by Guest on 11 August 2010 - 12:08 PM

For the past weeks the wings have improved and upgraded their forward depth and top6 D, lookin' pretty damn good... but the goalie situation, how are they gonna handle that, there's a famous sophomore slump for many goalies, and also fact of the matter is Howard played worse in the playoffs than during the post-olympic run (16-2-3 or something)which isn't a good way to end a season, and Osgood, well, last year was probably his worst year in his career...

Do you think they will test osgood and se where he's at and play them 50/50? If they fail could we see a trade? What is reasonable?

I know Detroit have almost always have a mid ranked nhl goalie and put their money on D and on forwards, but are you all comfortable with howard? (i assume this is osgood's final year and he will retire) who will be the backup or starter when he retires? will they sign a cheap FA like they did with Conklin?


#2022067 Wings offer Aaron Downey Tryout?

Posted by titanium2 on 03 August 2010 - 03:58 PM

If Williams and Maltby can make the team, why can't Downey?

He at least gives us something that we don't already have. What did those players add to the team last year?


Williams at least provided an incredibly easy scapegoat.


#2024797 Wings sign Ruslan Salei

Posted by Guest on 10 August 2010 - 11:45 AM

He should wear #77 ;)


#2024755 Wings sign Ruslan Salei

Posted by edicius on 10 August 2010 - 10:13 AM

I suppose if Lilja goes for more than 1.2 mil (including bonuses) or so, then you're right, we wouldn't have been able to sign him. But if he (or other younger, more worthwhile defensemen) ends up going for around the same price as Salei, Im gonna be a bit.....annoyed :ranting:.


I'll be right with you on that. I'm certain that our PK is going to go right back down the crapper without Lilja on the ice unless Salei's a prolific shot-blocker.


#2024734 Wings sign Ruslan Salei

Posted by Guest on 10 August 2010 - 07:18 AM

It's as babcock said, they now got the top6-D that all can play 20mins a night if they have to and don't get exhausted, they don't need to "hide" anyone.. which most team's must.

Also I wonder if this guy will play the PK and perhaps let lidstrom rest from pk a bit and play more 5on5 and pp?


#2024662 Wings sign Ruslan Salei

Posted by Zeowingsfan on 09 August 2010 - 09:48 PM

Hmmm. Not sure I liked this signing on first reading about it when I ft home tonite. After reading about it here I gotta say I feel more confident about it. At first my reaction was "why the hell are we signing a broken defensman ?"

Few questions: righty or lefty? I hope he's a righty.
Is ritola on a two way contract which would allow him to play in the minors without being subject to waivers, ala abdelkader last year?
Is kindl out of minor league options? Or can he be sent down without waivers too?
If ritola can be sent down with no issues, then look for Kenny to put him there (which is what I thought it was for ritola). I haven't read one thing on the boards this summer that pinned these issues down. If kindl is out of options, what's the point of having salei? I'm hoping for some informed responses...

Ritola and Kindl are out of options and are subject to waivers. Ritola has a 2-way on the first year of his contract, but like any 2-way deal it only affects how much he gets paid in the minors and nothing to do with waivers. Salei is meant to be a steadying force on the 3rd pairing and to make sure that our 3rd pairing does not start out as Ericsson and Kindl. He is a stay at home defenceman which is something we needed to get to replace Lilja.

Edit: Salei is a lefty.


#2024513 NHL Rejects Kovalchuk's Contract

Posted by Guest on 09 August 2010 - 04:19 PM

Kovie is now a UFA, league descision stands.