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#2230688 Say Goodbye to the C, Z.

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 28 November 2011 - 08:51 PM

Pasha is a lot smarter than he lets on...I think he tries to buffalo people into thinking he doesn't speak English all that well because he's really a very shy person. He's actually a very brainy fellow. Once you get to know him, you find out that he's a lot smarter than he shows to everyone.

As far as him being captain, I see no reason why he couldn't be. Getting mad, I've seen his temper before...I remember a game in St. Louis where he got so mad he walked in the locker room and slammed his stick into the rack. There was an anger in his eyes I'd never seen before...he was really ticked. I think if the situation called for it, he could summon the anger forces and let loose. I wouldn't put it past him.

I don't think anyone is questioning Pavel's intelligence. Just his fluency in English.

EDIT: And I heard Z has 7 points in his last 6 games. Hopefully he's getting on track the way Datsyuk has.

#2230554 Say Goodbye to the C, Z.

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 28 November 2011 - 11:25 AM

A slight challenge for Pav getting the "C" is the language barrier. Captains need to be able to interact and have discussions with the officiating crew--in English. As Rule 6 states, the team captain alone is the only one to hold this discussion privilege with the refs. I don't know if Pav's English is good enough to be effective with this role.

Agreed. Pavs is hilarious, in part due to how his humor comes across in his broken english. But the guy makes Homer look fluent.

As others have mentioned, the most talented guy on the team doesn't necessarily have to be the one wearing the C.

#2230379 Bylsma Defends Crosby's Elbow on Foligno

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 27 November 2011 - 11:16 AM

For starters, that isn't a suspendable hit. It's a scrum in front of the net where one player is taking extra liberties.

Second, Crosby at least had some reason to give cheap shots to Foligno. And they weren't even super cheap shots at that.

Third, Crosby is a cheap little *****. As soon as things get heated Kunitz is in to save the day. If you want Crosby to play sheriff, then let him fight his own battles.

That's one of the biggest problems I have when he pulls this crap. He acts like a tough guy, but the reality is he's the teams star player, so he ends up just starting crap and getting in his cheap shots before the team swarms him. He seems to want it both ways. Don't touch the star players, but he gets to lay on crosschecks like he's testing his stick's breaking point.

#2230334 Bylsma Defends Crosby's Elbow on Foligno

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 27 November 2011 - 12:41 AM

Crosby is a hypocrite on this one. Like I said in the other thread, I understand that Foligno had run into Fleury a few times. But there are other ways to respond to that then throwing an elbow and a butt end. You turn around and square up.

I'm betting this didn't even get reviewed. As I also said in the other thread, Cherry called out Crosby for this elbow and basically said what goes around comes around. Sid is a super talent, but continues to come off like a spoiled little *****.

Here's Crosby's response.

#2230326 Crosby coming back

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 27 November 2011 - 12:23 AM

Oh, BTW, you are missing quite a bit of the back story in what led up to that incident in front of the net. I didn't see the game, but I have heard from several and I've heard several guys suggesting they loved seeing that from Crosby. I can tell you for sure that his coach and his teammates liked it a lot. That was the 3rd or 4th time in short order that folino had blantantly ran Fleury. He should have expected a lot worse than he got. It really shouldn't have had to come from Crosby, but it did.

It doesn't matter that they were running Fleury. I get the couple crosschecks but the elbow to the head is way over the line, especially from someone coming back from a concussion. The way to handle it is to square up to the guy and go after him, not throw elbows to the head.

People can pretend like that's great to see because it's Crosby. Like it's him being gritty and showing passion. But if that were a Matt Cooke or a Steve Ott, it's nothing but a dirty cheap shot and they're likely having a conversation with Shanny

#2230015 Crosby coming back

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 26 November 2011 - 12:29 PM

a 14 page thread mostly about how Crosby gets too much attention. :lol:

#2229887 11/25 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Bruins 2 (SO)

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 25 November 2011 - 04:07 PM

Actually, the commentators were blowing Lidstrom all game long, like they usually do.

And people here always complain about too much Crosby love during his games. We have our own media loved players too. You could throw Datsyuk in there as well.

That was Doc and McGuire. Maybe Olczyk a little bit. But he kept pointing out penalties on the Wings that should've been called. Like when Abby (I think it was) knocked a Bruiin down and Eddie said it was interference.

Except the Boston player had the puck.

I like Doc and can tolerate McGuire. But Olczyk really does seem not to be able to set aside his bias against Detroit.

#2229883 11/25 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Bruins 2 (SO)

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 25 November 2011 - 04:03 PM

Great game by Howard (minus the miscue behind the net), and Dats. I thought Cleary looked good. Homer had another great game. If Mule were as fearless as Holmstrom, he'd be a 50 goal scorer.

Zetterberg alternated from looking good to being awful. He had the great assist on Flips goal, the smart play on Bertuzzi's great chance, and other good plays. Then it looked like he forgot how to handle the puck.

Wings definitely got on their heels when the Bruins stepped up the physical game, but they bent but didn't break.

Olczyk can suck it. His dislike of the Wings when commentating is palpable. So can Chara. Good on Dats for being fearless and hitting him back. I wish more Wings players followed his lead. And I wish our D men would bury guys like Chara did to Datsyuk.

Two stolen point for sure.

#2229724 11/25 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Bruins 2 (SO)

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 25 November 2011 - 03:11 PM

f-ing Hudler on the point.

#2229720 11/25 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Bruins 2 (SO)

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 25 November 2011 - 03:10 PM

Franzen? what are you gonna do there besides get punched in the face and turtle.

#2229324 Jonathan Ericsson Watch Thread

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 24 November 2011 - 01:20 PM

Bad news is that he is. Good news is that he is progressing, albeit significantly slower than his first stints with the Wings led most of us to expect. He was better last year than in 09-10, and better again so far this year. This year, his offensive instincts (in terms of when and how to jump in) aren't really that far behind Kronwall or White.

If he could fix his horrendous shot accuracy and laughably slow wind-up on his slapper he could be a 40+ point defenseman. If he can't fix those problems, he'll likely never grow into his contract because he's never shown any signs that his positioning, shot blocking, anticipation, physicality, or reaction time are (or could be) any better than 3rd-pair level.

According to who?

Ericsson has never scored 40 points in his career, let alone doing it in the NHL. He's a converted forward, but I've not heard or seen any real expectations of him to be an offensive producer for the Wings. His potential is to be a big physical puck moving defenseman who can kill penalties and clear the crease. Ideally sort of like Stuart but with a better first pass.

#2229273 Jonathan Ericsson Watch Thread

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 24 November 2011 - 01:30 AM

Worst offensive player on the team.

Good thing he's a defenseman.

Seriously, if that's your knock against Ericsson, you're scraping the bottom of the barrel for things to ***** about. I mean, he may not be Kyle Quincey, but he's not as bad as you make him out to be.

Anyone who tries to argue that Ericsson has any offensive upside is wrong. Tonight is just an example of how awful his shot and instincts are. As a #6 big body who fights I don't mind him, but that kind of player isn't worth 3.25 mil.

Who has ever argued that? He's got a good first pass, but he's not an offensive defenseman.

#2228993 Jonathan Ericsson Watch Thread

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 23 November 2011 - 01:58 PM

He doesn't really make use of his size, and he always looks like he's completely discombobulated.

I agree he needs to use his size better, but it's funny how much more grief he gets for it than Kindl, who never really fights (not counting getting tuned up by Benn recently) and is even less physical than E.

Ericsson is 6'4" 221 lbs. Kindl is 6'3" 216. They both should be knocking guys around out there.

#2228976 Jonathan Ericsson Watch Thread

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 23 November 2011 - 12:44 PM

Am I the only one who thinks E hasn't been that bad? Sure he still makes some boneheaded plays but it looks like he is playing a much safer game out there and not taking as many risks. He is also stepping up the physical game as i've seen him step up for some big hits and has had a couple good ones recently. All he needs to do now is not stand around with his dick in his hand in front of the net and clear the crease better.

No, you're not.

I'm sure it comes off like I love the guy but honestly I just don't think he sucks, which compared to the prevailing opinion here probably looks like worship.

He's overpaid and likely won't improve enough to earn his contract this season, but he's been playing solid defense, stepped up his physical play, and has the occasional Rafalski-worthy breakout pass like he had to Bert the other night.

He's taken a few bad penalties, but like I said in the GDT, when he took one the other night clearing the crease, I'm okay with it. At least half the time the refs would let that go. He's definitely using his size more and makes sure to step in between Howard and whatever forward is trying to get in his face at the end of the play.

He still needs to figure out how to get his slapshot off quicker. And I'd love for him to start blocking shots, since almost no one on this team does these days. But that may be asking a bit much.

#2228869 Jiri Hudler Appreciation Thread

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 22 November 2011 - 10:17 PM

Not by the time it was clear Hudler wasn't going to have a chance to hold the puck in. At that point Richards was five, maybe ten feet away from Hudler and Hudler was just starting to move.

Let's settle for ten. It doesn't change that Hudler's lack of speed is a major drawback to having him on the blueline for the PP.

Babs did it because he wasn't/isn't willing to take other guys off the PP, but knows Hudler has to be there for it to be at its best. What people were concerned about from the comments I read was about Hudler not being able to handle pressure or clearing attempts, and that his skating would be a problem moving back and forth along the blue line. Hardly the same situation.

I'm pretty sure other people said it, but I was definitely worried about his being on the point due to lack of speed. If anything happened or someone fired a shot into a players shin pads, it's off to the races. And if Huds is the only buy back there, it pretty much means it's gonna be a breakaway.

Lidstrom doesn't stop that puck from leaving the zone. Nobody does. Skating isn't a factor until you get to chasing the puck down. And Hudler was at a severe disadvantage BEFORE you consider the fact that he's a slower skater than Richards. Line up two sports cars. Say they both do 0-60 in 3.5 seconds. If you set them up so one sports car will hit 60 at the starting line of the other sports car, and give the sports car with the longer track a 2 second head start, it will win every time. That's basically what happened on the Richards goal.

The two sports cars analogy isn't relevant because there was only one sports car going after the puck.

The other one was maybe a VW beetle.

As I said before; it's because Babcock knows he needs to put Hudler on the PP but doesn't want to take his other guys off. Think about it; Hudler didn't replace a struggling Cleary, or anyone else up front, on a completely unproductive PP. He replaced Jakub Kindl, who was barely given a chance to play on D. Hudler's best spot on the PP is the low right boards; he was LETHAL there in 2008-09 setting up Z and Franzen.

I wouldn't mind seeing a Flip/Dats/Homer, Franzen/Z/Hudler setup for the PP, maybe working in some Cleary and Bertuzzi.

This part I agree with. If Hudler is on the PP (and if he's in the lineup, he should absolutely be on the PP), he needs to be down low where his creativity pays off. Putting him on the point does not play to his strengths.